Tucker: You're being instructed not to notice this

[jknowgood]

Not all college degrees are liberal arts. Trying to move the goal posts again?

A lot of them are and a college education doesn't get you what it used to.

 

[Flash]

Huh? Communists?

Maybe they’d actually learn what a communist is in college.

No one is voting for communists.

Bullshit!

The goal of the Democrat Party is to turn the US into a Socialist shithole.

That is sure as hell Communism. Using the government to raid the Treasury and give the money to the filthy ass welfare queens. Free everything.

It will work until the money made under Capitalism runs out and then everybody is fucked.

 

[colfax_m]

I do home repairs, got paid for my training. Doing okay for myself now.

Okay. And?

Are you guys doing a 180 on the economics of blue collar workers? They’re all fine now, huh. No worries about globalization.

 

[jknowgood]

Okay. And?

Are you guys doing a 180 on the economics of blue collar workers? They’re all fine now, huh. No worries about globalization.

I'm good no matter what my cost of living is very low and I'm going to build my house out of pocket. I'm not stuck owing thousands of dollar for an education I cannot use.

 

[colfax_m]

I'm good no matter what my cost of living is very low and I'm going to build my house out of pocket. I'm not stuck owing thousands of dollar for an education I cannot use.

And just like that you guys adjust reality to fit the needs of the moment.

None of y’all have any intention of being honest here with regard to a huge part of the motivation of Trump’s base.

 

[jknowgood]

And just like that you guys adjust reality to fit the needs of the moment.

None of y’all have any intention of being honest here with regard to a huge part of the motivation of Trump’s base.

Trump's economy was doing great until the pandemic started and if we listened to Trump instead of Fauci. We would still be doing great. Now we have Biden and things are going in the crapper.

 

[colfax_m]

Trump's economy was doing great until the pandemic started and if we listened to Trump instead of Fauci. We would still be doing great. Now we have Biden and things are going in the crapper.

So you don’t remember what Trump campaigned on?

 

[jknowgood]

So you don’t remember what Trump campaigned on?

Make America great again and he was doing a great job. Then Biden cheated his way in.

 

[colfax_m]

Make America great again and he was doing a great job. Then Biden cheated his way in.

Who in America wasn’t doing well?

The people without college educations, by and large. Their jobs were disappearing. Trump appealed a lot to this demographic. “The forgotten man”.

 

[jknowgood]

Who in America wasn’t doing well?

The people without college educations, by and large. Their jobs were disappearing. Trump appealed a lot to this demographic. “The forgotten man”.

He was bringing manufacturing jobs back. Incomes were rising first time in 30 years. No we have inflation Biden taking that extra income through inflation and energy costs.

 

[colfax_m]

He was bringing manufacturing jobs back. Incomes were rising first time in 30 years. No we have inflation Biden taking that extra income through inflation and energy costs.

Why would he need to bring manufacturing jobs back? People without college educations are doing great, supposedly.

 

[jknowgood]

Why would he need to bring manufacturing jobs back? People without college educations are doing great, supposedly.

More jobs more competition, higher wages. Now that Biden is letting millions of illegals cross our border. They will be doing worse.

 

[Dragonlady]

Lol, its the people with college degrees that are suffering. They can't find a job, because they majored in liberal arts and ran up enough debt to buy a house.

No, it's because there are only so many middle class jobs and more university graduates than needed to fill them. But there are lots of jobs that go unfilled, because American workers lack the technical skills or trades to do the work. Yet you have no national program to do retaining for long-term unemployed people.

 

[Dragonlady]

He was bringing manufacturing jobs back. Incomes were rising first time in 30 years. No we have inflation Biden taking that extra income through inflation and energy costs.

Incomes were rising because there was a glut of jobs PRIOR to the pandemic, and a shortage of workers to do those jobs. Even Walmart was paying more because the quality of their staff was so bad at minimum wage. People didn't want to go to their stores because the staff were miserable and surly, and that was all they could get at minimum wage.

 

[jknowgood]

No, it's because there are only so many middle class jobs and more university graduates than needed to fill them. But there are lots of jobs that go unfilled, because American workers lack the technical skills or trades to do the work. Yet you have no national program to do retaining for long-term unemployed people.

They didn't learn what they needed about their profession. Is because the professors teaching the liberal agenda.

 

[jknowgood]

Incomes were rising because there was a glut of jobs PRIOR to the pandemic, and a shortage of workers to do those jobs. Even Walmart was paying more because the quality of their staff was so bad at minimum wage. People didn't want to go to their stores because the staff were miserable and surly, and that was all they could get at minimum wage.

Not before the pandemic, after I give you that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Not all college degrees are liberal arts. Trying to move the goal posts again?

Correct. My nephews ex graduated with an advertising degree. She works at a bank processing loans today.

 

[colfax_m]

More jobs more competition, higher wages. Now that Biden is letting millions of illegals cross our border. They will be doing worse.

Higher wages? Crazy, how you guys claim to all be making so much money without college degrees.

But also telling that you guys were bragging about making a labor shortage, and now all of a sudden that's the worst thing in the world.

In short, there's no consistency on your side. Zero. You'll say one thing one day, then the exact opposite the second it becomes convenient.

One day people without college degrees are left behind in the economy as people with college degrees take the technical high skilled work. The next thing the people with college degrees have wasted time and effort for nothing and those without college degrees are raking in money hand over fist.

There's no honesty here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You’re ignoring them by refusing to acknowledge their very existence. Trump campaigned on the people left behind economically. These are people without degrees. Now you’re acting like it’s all sunshine and roses for them.

The entire economy does better when we have more college educated. They are better employed, more productive and less reliant on government subsidies. It’s not just a personal investment, it’s a national investment.

Yes, I know. People have tried to use that argument before. Well..........isn't a house a national investment? I mean, if people have to work, they need a roof over their heads where they can get sleep, right? Why shouldn't taxpayers fund housing? And what about transportation? Would it not be a national investment to make sure people can get to work and buy them all cars? The Democrats want to spend billions to make sure people in rural areas and poor in the cities can get taxpayer funded internet. I grew up without any internet. Didn't have it until I was in my 40's.

You can make that phony claim about national investment and apply it to just about anything. However people who get jobs because of college are no more valuable than people who work that didn't, and perhaps even less valuable. After all, if not for me, how would products get to your store?

And so you want me to pay for some kid to be a lawyer, and then when I need a lawyer in 10 years from now, he's going to charge me $150.00 an hour. Does that sound right to you?

People make more on average going to college than people who don't, and that makes college a personal investment. This national investment just doesn't fly because we all equally contribute to our economy and society.

 

[Dragonlady]

They didn't learn what they needed about their profession. Is because the professors teaching the liberal agenda.

The professors are NOT teaching a "liberal agenda". In fact, there is a pretty good body of evidence that most of your economic woes today are caused by Harvard University teaching "bottom line management" to business students. Bottom line management disregards the interests of the workers or the community and squarely requires that management's sole consideration in making decisions is the bottom line and the interests of the shareholders.

Generations of Supreme Court decisions in shareholders' rights cases have always sided with the shareholder's over any other corporate responsibilities. With no workers' representatives on the Board - Germany has this, and unions a thing of the past, nobody has spoken up for American workers since Reagan was in office.

Geez, Louise, all of your Presidents, both Republican and Democrats were educated at Harvard and Yale, as were all of those conservative judges on the Supreme Court.