Truth and consequence Pretti

[SaxonJackson]

I prepped one of these for Good. It was Pretti Good, but people tend to shy away when facts are black, white and straightforward, know what I mean? Cough.... Questions are for Yes/no or one of two choices. Feel free to comments. Here is some good video for support, you don't have to listen to Kelly. She looks a bit run down.

1. Pretti was primarily provoked by left narrative or Trump people

2. Pretti, the agent or both were justified being in the situation leading to Pretti's apprehension.

3. Pretti was arguably in the act of a felony

4. Pretti interfered with law enforcement, and was a provacator.

5. It is normal behavior to get into an altercation with feds when packing.

6.It's normal behavior to pack a pistol and two loaded magazines to a protest supporting democrats.

7. The shooting may have been accidental discharges during a fight, chaotic and threatening environment.

8. The left or right are primarily responsible for creating that environment.

9. Pretti is a hero to the woman pushed by an agent.

10. Pretti was actually rough with the woman.

11. Packing a pistol while confronting & provoking law has inherent consequences on its face.

12. Pretti Good's blood are primarily the result of their poor decisions.

13. Minneapolis appears as a leader protecting democracy and human rights.

14. Law enforcement is ultimately responsible to take care of those who act irresponsibly, regardless of the act.

15. Pretti seemed to be right in the head.

16. Pretti was a casualty of mass hysteria.

Pretti was likely a complete dickhead and his ideology was likely a polar opposite of my own (America First & Deport Illegals). However, Pretti had a Constitutional right to carry. A right that "shall not be infringed." Pretti's gun was removed from his person and he was shot to death AFTER THE FACT. So whether you like Pretti or hate him ... we was wrongfully killed.

Pretti's actions could be considered reprehensible by some -- totally irresponsible by others. But nothing he did that fateful day deserved the death penalty.

 

[Stann]

Then they started showing up armed and confronting, attacking and obstructing law enforcement.

Do you think Minnesota Police would have handled it better?

You have thousands of seemingly lawless federal police invading a city whose police force numbers less than 600. They are stretched to.their limits with this invasion force.Minmespta law requires 800 policemen for the city. Recruiting efforts have failed so they are short-handed to begin with. This action by trump was intended to overwhelm everyone.

 

[Hafar1014]

You have thousandsofseemingly lawless federal.police invading a city whose police force numbers less than 600. They are stretched to.their limits with this invasion force.

They were ordered to do nothing democrats toss gas on the fire they started

 

[Stann]

They were ordered to do nothing democrats toss gas on the fire they started

Your opinion isn't valid.

 

[Hafar1014]

Your opinion isn't valid.

MINNEAPOLIS — The head of a major Twin Cities police union slammed local officials for blocking cooperation between local cops and ICE and Border Patrol agents – saying if they had been involved, “there would be no loss of life.”

It comes as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz agreed to have his top cop work with President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan after he rushed to Minneapolis Monday — after Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was sidelined.

St. Paul Police Federation President Mark Ross blamed state and local officials for the anti-ICE protest violence — saying that if highly trained cops were allowed to work with the feds, it likely would have prevented the killing of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

 

[Stann]

Pretti was likely a complete dickhead and his ideology was likely a polar opposite of my own (America First & Deport Illegals). However, Pretti had a Constitutional right to carry. A right that "shall not be infringed." Pretti's gun was removed from his person and he was shot to death AFTER THE FACT. So whether you like Pretti or hate him ... we was wrongfully killed.

Pretti's actions could be considered reprehensible by some -- totally irresponsible by others. But nothing he did that fateful day deserved the death penalty.

That's the facts that matter. Why trump did this. Why the ICE agents aren't trained better. Why people are protesting. All of this doesn't matter because it was the wrong move in the first place and they're killing Americans now for no good reason. And these men that shot him don't deserve the death penalty either but they do need to stand trial and pay for breaking the law. I don't know if judges are more lenient or more severe in their judgments against law enforcement agents who break the law but let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully justice will be served. Given that trump is president I now realize it should be the state of Minnesota to do.the trial. trump might be tempted to do a fast one and pardon them. He can do that if they are tried in federal court not if they are tried in a state court. In a federal.court they might get the death sentence . Minnesota doesn't have a he death sentence.

 

[Stann]

MINNEAPOLIS — The head of a major Twin Cities police union slammed local officials for blocking cooperation between local cops and ICE and Border Patrol agents – saying if they had been involved, “there would be no loss of life.”

It comes as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz agreed to have his top cop work with President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan after he rushed to Minneapolis Monday — after Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was sidelined.

St. Paul Police Federation President Mark Ross blamed state and local officials for the anti-ICE protest violence — saying that if highly trained cops were allowed to work with the feds, it likely would have prevented the killing of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

An opinion , not a fact.

 

[j-mac]

First off they are undocumented immigrants. Personally I would like to see all umm Gran s documented. That would be the ideal. But our immigration system is a failure. It isn't fair or equitable. And trump is sabotaging it as we speak. There is a greater need than ever for immigration judges and trump is getting rid of as many of them as he can. That's crippling the immigration system
It doesn't solve anything for US or our future citizens. You can't deal with the problem legitimately if you don't have the proper tools to get the job done. I hope you can understand that. We need the immigrants as much , if not more , than they need US. Our future depends on it.

First, thanks for not making me hound you for pages to get an answer.

Now, changing their description doesn’t change the fact that ICE is looking for targeted individuals that already have orders of deportation.

Now, we do need more immigration judges, and with the amazing job this administration has done in closing the border, we can start to chip away at the backlog of cases.

The budget for ICE and immigration has increased, but now dems are poised to shut the government down again to stop immigration control, and protect these criminals raping and killing our wives and daughters …

If we so badly need immigrants, then let them come legally.

 

[j-mac]

Only a court of law can determine if they are here illegally. It will s still not against the law to seek asylum and morethan 90% of immigrants have been allowed in in the past. The world has gotten worse so if anything that rate should be increasing. It's definitely not lessening. And when global warming really kicks in billions , not millions will be displaced and looking for new homes.

These are excuses…those under threat around the world have safe nations closer to their homes…let them go there.

 

[Hafar1014]

An opinion , not a fact.

Apply that to yourself
Walz just recently agreed that means past policy was to stand down
Mark Ross is head of the local Federation of police thats not his opinion

 

[j-mac]

Yes but in case they do not make any real change in their tactics it's not going to work. trump is most likely trying to shuffle players around when he needs to get law-abiding players in the fold.

Their tactic is to arrest and deport those with deportation orders. Now, this could be calmer if the state would work with the feds and let them in their jails and detention centers….

 

[Stann]

First, thanks for not making me hound you for pages to get an answer.

Now, changing their description doesn’t change the fact that ICE is looking for targeted individuals that already have orders of deportation.

Now, we do need more immigration judges, and with the amazing job this administration has done in closing the border, we can start to chip away at the backlog of cases.

The budget for ICE and immigration has increased, but now dems are poised to shut the government down again to stop immigration control, and protect these criminals raping and killing our wives and daughters …

If we so badly need immigrants, then let them come legally.

We basically agree . However I no longer trust ICE to target just criminal undocumented immigrants. BTW , illegal immigrant is a term coined by anti-immigration people. The correct term and official.term is undocumented. As I said before we can't get the job done. Without the judges we can't prove they are here illegally.

 

[Stann]

Apply that to yourself
Walz just recently agreed that means past policy was to stand down
Mark Ross is head of the local Federation of police thats not his opinion

You are a fool there has been along standing rivalry between the St. paul Police and the Minneapolis Police departments. Not surprised you used his opinion . Sorry you didn't know why.. I had an aunt and uncle that lived in Minneapolis. Beautiful , safe city . At least it was.

 

[Lisa558]

These are excuses…those under threat around the world have safe nations closer to their homes…let them go there.

True. The illegals who have come from Central America traveled through Mexico and were given safe haven there. They kept going because the handouts by Democrats to illegals - from free hotel stays to in-state tuition rates to full welfare as soon as they have an anchor baby - have incited their invasion.

 

[Lisa558]

How far will the anti-American leftists take this? When Muslims tied to Islamic terrorist groups are identified, will they fight and threaten law enforcement in order to keep would-be terrorists on the streets of America?

 

[Crepitus]

Ashli Babitt..you didn't care about her death, so I don't care about pretti's death.

I care that his parents are sad, but I don't care about him.

That's YOUR fault.

Babbit was assaulting congress at the head of a bloodthirsty mob while crawling through a window towards officers withdraw guns telling her "if you came through we will shoot you.

The situations are not even remotely similar.

 

[westwall]

Babbit was assaulting congress at the head of a bloodthirsty mob while crawling through a window towards officers withdraw guns telling her "if you came through we will shoot you.

The situations are not even remotely similar.

No she wasn't you ridiculous clod. She was standing PEACABLY next to several police officers who were paying her no mind.

YOUR asshole was leading an ARMED INSURRECTION.

 

[IDIOCRACY]

MINNEAPOLIS — The head of a major Twin Cities police union slammed local officials for blocking cooperation between local cops and ICE and Border Patrol agents – saying if they had been involved, “there would be no loss of life.”

It comes as Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz agreed to have his top cop work with President Trump’s border czar Tom Homan after he rushed to Minneapolis Monday — after Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem was sidelined.

St. Paul Police Federation President Mark Ross blamed state and local officials for the anti-ICE protest violence — saying that if highly trained cops were allowed to work with the feds, it likely would have prevented the killing of Renee Good and Alex Pretti.

Stanley says fake news, code for he cannot handle the truth, but what lib can?

 

[Stann]

Stanley says fake news, code for he cannot handle the truth, but what lib can?

Looks like you were finally right about something. But of course they will still not assist ICE if they're smart. They must keep the trust of all the people that live there.and unless ICE changes their tactics and numbers the Minneapolis Police force remains overwhelmed and understaffed by all of this. Now we'll have mistakes on yet another front as things escalate. It's easy to say we should have , could have done it this , still can't predict what would have transpired. It could have been worse too.

 

[Stann]

Stanley says fake news, code for he cannot handle the truth, but what lib can?

Oh I was wrong . You didn't say that , someone else did. You're still not doing well on the truth.