Trump’s Wall Costs $21.6 Billion; Illegal Immigration Costs $148.3 Billion Per Year

Trump is no engineer
Which is why he isn’t designing the wall. You do realize when President Trump says he’s going to build a wall he does not mean that he, himself, will literally build the wall - don’t you?
or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial...
Thankfully it doesn’t take an “expert on security” to understand that walls keep people out. That’s why your home has them.

Also - it doesn’t matter one bit what Donald Trump wants. The wall is what the American people want. That’s why they elected him.

Trump initiated the concept of a wall as grand as that Great Wall of China. He repeatedly made references to it. That kind of wall would cost three or 4 times as much just to build a 1000 mile stretch. He has no idea of costs for things built by the government.. So yes...likely some one knowledgeable about engineering and construction costs pulled him aside and schooled him. And I'm still not sure if he knows the difference between a wall and a big fence.

Trump is a dumb fool who just wants to do something spectacular . He came up with the concept of a wall that could become the largest manmade structure on earth...and his name will be associated with it. I don't want my tax dollars paying for some damn tribute to dumb Donald's ego.

The American people don't want to waste money on a wall. Last time i checked the PEW poll indicated over 60% of Americans were against it.

Once again, you're spouting pure idiocy. Trump never said he was going to build something that looked like the great wall of China. If you believe he did, then post the evidence.
 
But since it is not done, we have no idea if Turkey's wall will help at all?
Do you have walls in the dwelling where you reside? Yes or no? If the answer is yes (and we all know it is), then shut the **** up. You’re being an argumentative hypocrite. You know damn well walls work to keep people out. That’s why you hide behind them and lock your doors.

The walls are to keep out the weather. I use a 9mm to keep out people. I keep doors locked to they have to make noise and wake me up.
Bull shit. You can “keep weather out” with tarps! The walls are to keep people out and you ******* know it.

You’ve been exposed. If you had an ounce of shame, you’d feel really stupid right now.

He's partially correct. In cold climates you need walls to keep out the cold. However, in tropical climates a lot of people live in houses that don't have walls.
 
There are not enough border patrol for 2000 miles of wall.
Thank you!!! If we don’t have enough border patrol agents to cover 2,000 miles of wall, then we sure as shit don’t have enough border patrol agents to cover 2,000 miles of wide open space!

You just made the best argument yet why we need the wall. Thanks!
Exactly!

Walls reduce the manpower needed to gaurd the border, not increase it. These bozos say stupid stuff every time they post on this subject.
 
Yeah...because nobody could possibly see a balloon from a mile

Depends on the terrain and time of day.
Laugh if you will but Trump's folly is the real joke. But his is an expensive joke. Trump is no engineer or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial....as if he is an expert on what it takes to secure the unsecurable border. He is nerely a layman with an amateurish vision that he arrived at on his own. He didn't think it through. Trump doesn't care about the inefficacy of the wall.
He just wants his name on it.That is one legacy that will not be easily dismantled.

Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....
 
Yeah...because nobody could possibly see a balloon from a mile

Depends on the terrain and time of day.
Laugh if you will but Trump's folly is the real joke. But his is an expensive joke. Trump is no engineer or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial....as if he is an expert on what it takes to secure the unsecurable border. He is nerely a layman with an amateurish vision that he arrived at on his own. He didn't think it through. Trump doesn't care about the inefficacy of the wall.
He just wants his name on it.That is one legacy that will not be easily dismantled.

Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
 
But my point is balloons could be used to traverse a border wall repeatedely with low probability of immediate detection in a secluded area. Create a diversion a mile away and detection drops even more precipitously.
Hmm...if walls don’t work and are so “easy to traverse”...then why does every nation in the world use them? Why does every prison in the world use them? Why did the Catholic Church put a massive wall around the Vatican?
Consider the latest: On Jan. 7, Turkey announced it had completed half of a more than 100-mile wall along its border with Iran in terrain far more difficult than the Rio Grande Valley.
Feeling stupid yet? You should...

Trump's border wall is standard practice in other parts of the world

That is silly because the massive fortifications of the Middle Ages never relied on wall to keep people out.
The walls were for defenders to shoot from, and it was the defenders that kept people out.
A 100 mile wall is nothing like a 2000 mile wall, and you can see turkey is not relying on a wall, but on guard towers.
1053535633.jpg

The idiot claims walls don't work, and then posts a pic of a wall.

If the wall wasn't necessary, then why did they build it? Ever seen a line of gaurd towers without a wall? Me neither.
Encircle the entire country then...that makes more sense.
 
But my point is balloons could be used to traverse a border wall repeatedely with low probability of immediate detection in a secluded area. Create a diversion a mile away and detection drops even more precipitously.
Hmm...if walls don’t work and are so “easy to traverse”...then why does every nation in the world use them? Why does every prison in the world use them? Why did the Catholic Church put a massive wall around the Vatican?
Consider the latest: On Jan. 7, Turkey announced it had completed half of a more than 100-mile wall along its border with Iran in terrain far more difficult than the Rio Grande Valley.
Feeling stupid yet? You should...

Trump's border wall is standard practice in other parts of the world

That is silly because the massive fortifications of the Middle Ages never relied on wall to keep people out.
The walls were for defenders to shoot from, and it was the defenders that kept people out.
A 100 mile wall is nothing like a 2000 mile wall, and you can see turkey is not relying on a wall, but on guard towers.
1053535633.jpg

The idiot claims walls don't work, and then posts a pic of a wall.

If the wall wasn't necessary, then why did they build it? Ever seen a line of gaurd towers without a wall? Me neither.
Encircle the entire country then...that makes more sense.

It makes more sense to an imbecile like you, perhaps.
 
Yeah...because nobody could possibly see a balloon from a mile

Depends on the terrain and time of day.
Laugh if you will but Trump's folly is the real joke. But his is an expensive joke. Trump is no engineer or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial....as if he is an expert on what it takes to secure the unsecurable border. He is nerely a layman with an amateurish vision that he arrived at on his own. He didn't think it through. Trump doesn't care about the inefficacy of the wall.
He just wants his name on it.That is one legacy that will not be easily dismantled.

Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
 
Yeah...because nobody could possibly see a balloon from a mile

Depends on the terrain and time of day.
Laugh if you will but Trump's folly is the real joke. But his is an expensive joke. Trump is no engineer or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial....as if he is an expert on what it takes to secure the unsecurable border. He is nerely a layman with an amateurish vision that he arrived at on his own. He didn't think it through. Trump doesn't care about the inefficacy of the wall.
He just wants his name on it.That is one legacy that will not be easily dismantled.

Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah, we know. Establishment douchebags like Lindsey Grahamnesty, and Jeb Bush don't support it. Their kind are being purged from the party. That's why Jeff Flake is retiring.

We know you're a liar, and so are all the douchebags in here who oppose the wall.
 
But my point is balloons could be used to traverse a border wall repeatedely with low probability of immediate detection in a secluded area. Create a diversion a mile away and detection drops even more precipitously.
Hmm...if walls don’t work and are so “easy to traverse”...then why does every nation in the world use them? Why does every prison in the world use them? Why did the Catholic Church put a massive wall around the Vatican?
Consider the latest: On Jan. 7, Turkey announced it had completed half of a more than 100-mile wall along its border with Iran in terrain far more difficult than the Rio Grande Valley.
Feeling stupid yet? You should...

Trump's border wall is standard practice in other parts of the world

That is silly because the massive fortifications of the Middle Ages never relied on wall to keep people out.
The walls were for defenders to shoot from, and it was the defenders that kept people out.
A 100 mile wall is nothing like a 2000 mile wall, and you can see turkey is not relying on a wall, but on guard towers.
1053535633.jpg

The idiot claims walls don't work, and then posts a pic of a wall.

If the wall wasn't necessary, then why did they build it? Ever seen a line of gaurd towers without a wall? Me neither.
Encircle the entire country then...that makes more sense.

It makes more sense to an imbecile like you, perhaps.

It makes more sense to me to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.
 
Hmm...if walls don’t work and are so “easy to traverse”...then why does every nation in the world use them? Why does every prison in the world use them? Why did the Catholic Church put a massive wall around the Vatican?
Feeling stupid yet? You should...

Trump's border wall is standard practice in other parts of the world

That is silly because the massive fortifications of the Middle Ages never relied on wall to keep people out.
The walls were for defenders to shoot from, and it was the defenders that kept people out.
A 100 mile wall is nothing like a 2000 mile wall, and you can see turkey is not relying on a wall, but on guard towers.
1053535633.jpg

The idiot claims walls don't work, and then posts a pic of a wall.

If the wall wasn't necessary, then why did they build it? Ever seen a line of guard towers without a wall? Me neither.
Encircle the entire country then...that makes more sense.

It makes more sense to an imbecile like you, perhaps.

It makes more sense to me to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.
That's because you're a dumbass who only cares about importing more Democrats even if it means turning this country into a shit hole.
 
Depends on the terrain and time of day.
Laugh if you will but Trump's folly is the real joke. But his is an expensive joke. Trump is no engineer or expert on security so what makes his wall demand so crucial....as if he is an expert on what it takes to secure the unsecurable border. He is nerely a layman with an amateurish vision that he arrived at on his own. He didn't think it through. Trump doesn't care about the inefficacy of the wall.
He just wants his name on it.That is one legacy that will not be easily dismantled.

Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah, we know. Establishment douchebags like Lindsey Grahamnesty, and Jeb Bush don't support it. Their kind are being purged from the party. That's why Jeff Flake is retiring.

We know you're a liar, and so are all the douchebags in here who oppose the wall.
Over 60% of Americans in a PEW poll oppose the wall. You RW minorities are not the majority.
 
That is silly because the massive fortifications of the Middle Ages never relied on wall to keep people out.
The walls were for defenders to shoot from, and it was the defenders that kept people out.
A 100 mile wall is nothing like a 2000 mile wall, and you can see turkey is not relying on a wall, but on guard towers.
1053535633.jpg

The idiot claims walls don't work, and then posts a pic of a wall.

If the wall wasn't necessary, then why did they build it? Ever seen a line of guard towers without a wall? Me neither.
Encircle the entire country then...that makes more sense.

It makes more sense to an imbecile like you, perhaps.

It makes more sense to me to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure. All the wall is going to do is make fruitpickers htichhike to the oceans and rent boats to come here.
That's because you're a dumbass who only cares about importing more Democrats even if it means turning this country into a shit hole.
Illegals can't vote stupid...who told you they do?
 
Every security expert in the world will tell you that walls work. Only open-borders douchebasgs like you pretend they don't. Engineers will tell you that constructing an effective wall will not be a problem. We've already seen 8 examples, and they will all do the job nicely The idea of the wall has been around for decades. Congress put of the money for 700 miles of wall during the Bush administration. Your claim that it's all Trump's idea is obvious horseshit.

The fact that the wall will be effective is what terrifies open-borders traitors like you. You and your ilk have been waging a jihad against the wall ever since Trump proposed it. The fact that you're so hostile to it is just one ore indication that it's the right thing to do.

You're right about one thing: it won't be easily dismantled. It will be around for 100 years stopping illegals through Republican administration and Democrat administration. That's what really has you and your ilk terrified.
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah, we know. Establishment douchebags like Lindsey Grahamnesty, and Jeb Bush don't support it. Their kind are being purged from the party. That's why Jeff Flake is retiring.

We know you're a liar, and so are all the douchebags in here who oppose the wall.
Over 60% of Americans in a PEW poll oppose the wall. You RW minorities are not the majority.
I doubt that number is accurate. A lot of people are not going to admit they support the wall because of the open-borders douchebags have villified those who support it.

But it really doesn't matter. You're getting the wall whether you like it or not. Elections have consequences.
 
Anyone who claims walls don't work is a traitorous open-borders douche bnag. There is simply no valid reason for opposing the wall. Anyone who does it wants to open the flood gates to illegal immigration.
Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.
U.S. military special forces and the Customs and Border Protection agency recently finished testing border wall prototypes — and the results couldn’t be more conclusive.

Commandos and agents attempted “to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices” but were unable to breach the walls each time, a U.S. official anonymously told the AP.
If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better
Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?
Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?
ROFLMMFAO

Wow...I've been MIA here longer then it seems....
I actually forgot how rampant stupidity is here!

No matter how you slice it....

whether i suggest putting your hair brain, cockamamie,
Wile E Coyote, Acme plans to the test, physically,
or, mentally, using critical thinking skills instead....

...either way, you'll hurt yourself!

Hmmm, let me guess, the Earth is flat...
perfect for your hand glider :cuckoo:
Although my typo has left me vulnerable
to hacks like you, hand gliders do exist. I don't know of any large enough to carry a person but they do exist.

How to Make Hand Gliders

And helium filled ballons have been used to lift a man in a lawn chair a few miles into the sky...fewer ballons could lift one to the top of a. 30 ft wall. Coyotes who specialize and profit from getting people across the border
could devise an apparatus that could be used repeatedly to float dozens of
search
people across a
wall at night in an isolated location. I could it easily construct such a devise amd make it work.
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I would ask you, if you reread what you wrote,
before you hit the 'post reply' button but,
that would be an utterly, stupid question on my part,
considering the obvious....critical thinking

Your, Wile E Coyote solutions, were not, in any way,
formed or based on, analytical, logical or rational thinking!

Any more than, your subsequent reply,
to which I am now responding to.

With that said....
Although my typo has left me vulnerable to hacks like you, hand gliders do exist.
I don't know of any large enough to carry a person but they do exist.
Whether or not it was a typo(which I doubt), is irrelevant!

Your inability to realize that, is made evident by:

....hand gliders do exist.
I don't know of any large enough to carry a person but they do exist.

Your attempt to ignore your stupidity and absurdity,
by rationalizing, the criticism stems from a typo,
fails miserably, when followed by idiocy and more stupidity!
And helium filled ballons have been used to lift a man in a lawn chair a few miles into the sky...fewer ballons could lift one to the top of a. 30 ft wall. Coyotes who specialize and profit from getting people across the border
could devise an apparatus that could be used repeatedly to float dozens of people across a wall at night in an isolated location.
I could it easily construct such a devise amd make it work.
....I've proved my point, case closed

I could it easily construct such a devise amd make it work.
^typo
 
Allow me to complete that sentence for you. Anyone who claims walls don’t work is an immature, pathological liar. Even U.S. Special Forces were unable to breach the prototypes.
If the most elite military forces in the world can’t breach them, there won’t be a single illegal alien that will be able to pull it off. This should have been done decades ago.

US special forces spent three weeks testing border wall prototypes — the results couldn’t be better
Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?
Yeah...a man with a balloon big enough to lifi his weight could be over that wall in seconds ....as could a man using a hand glider. Did the Special Forces try either of those ?
ROFLMMFAO

Wow...I've been MIA here longer then it seems....
I actually forgot how rampant stupidity is here!

No matter how you slice it....

whether i suggest putting your hair brain, cockamamie,
Wile E Coyote, Acme plans to the test, physically,
or, mentally, using critical thinking skills instead....

...either way, you'll hurt yourself!

Hmmm, let me guess, the Earth is flat...
perfect for your hand glider :cuckoo:
Although my typo has left me vulnerable
to hacks like you, hand gliders do exist. I don't know of any large enough to carry a person but they do exist.

How to Make Hand Gliders

And helium filled ballons have been used to lift a man in a lawn chair a few miles into the sky...fewer ballons could lift one to the top of a. 30 ft wall. Coyotes who specialize and profit from getting people across the border
could devise an apparatus that could be used repeatedly to float dozens of
search
people across a
wall at night in an isolated location. I could it easily construct such a devise amd make it work.

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You've got to be joking. An agent with a bee bee gun can make short work of those balloons.
There are isolated spots along that 2000 mi. border where border patrols are scarce.
But my point is balloons could be used to traverse a border wall repeatedely with low probability of immediate detection in a secluded area. Create a diversion a mile away and detection drops even more precipitously.
There are isolated spots along that 2000 mi. border where border patrols are scarce.
But my point is balloons could be used to traverse a border wall repeatedely with low probability of immediate detection in a secluded area. Create a diversion a mile away and detection drops even more
precipitously
O M G

Please...enough already!

Trying to convince us is not necessary...
I assure you, your idiocy is evident!

Seriously moron....do you have any idea
how heavy commercial helium tanks are?

How time consuming it would be to
fill these 'freedom balloons?...

Of course, you couldn't just tie
heavy duty cord or rope at the closure knot....
IT'S NOT POSSIBLE...

you would need a netting fixture that the balloon would sit in,
and those cords would have to be strapped to the body

How will they control their direction?

How will they get down...start popping one by one?

Try watching Border Wars!...time and stealth is of the essence!

YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND THE WEAKEST LINK!
GOOD BYE!
 
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Not worried about the wall since Mexico is paying for it. If they don't then no wall.
 
I stand with the majority of Americans who don't want their tax dollars wasted on Trump's Folly. 61% is a lot of traitors....

They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah, we know. Establishment douchebags like Lindsey Grahamnesty, and Jeb Bush don't support it. Their kind are being purged from the party. That's why Jeff Flake is retiring.

We know you're a liar, and so are all the douchebags in here who oppose the wall.
Over 60% of Americans in a PEW poll oppose the wall. You RW minorities are not the majority.
I doubt that number is accurate. A lot of people are not going to admit they support the wall because of the open-borders douchebags have villified those who support it.

But it really doesn't matter. You're getting the wall whether you like it or not. Elections have consequences.
Mexico needs to pay first as Trump promised.
 
They also didn't want Obamacare, but they got that rammed down their throats. They don't want the wall only because they're being browbeat by morons like you. Once the wall is built they will learn to love it.
We will see, Jackass. And for the record...a significant number of Republicans don't support building a wall either. For one thing we know Trump is a liar so anything he says about costs or construcion can be taken with a grain of salt.
Yeah, we know. Establishment douchebags like Lindsey Grahamnesty, and Jeb Bush don't support it. Their kind are being purged from the party. That's why Jeff Flake is retiring.

We know you're a liar, and so are all the douchebags in here who oppose the wall.
Over 60% of Americans in a PEW poll oppose the wall. You RW minorities are not the majority.
I doubt that number is accurate. A lot of people are not going to admit they support the wall because of the open-borders douchebags have villified those who support it.

But it really doesn't matter. You're getting the wall whether you like it or not. Elections have consequences.
Mexico needs to pay first as Trump promised.

Trump didn't say anything about Mexico paying first, moron.
 
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