trump's presidency should already effectively be over.

[Mac1958]

We need to be reminded of that as we are bludgeoned with daily bombardments of actions in contradiction to law, tradition, decency, and reason.

I surely don't know, but I would bet that at VERY least one third of this country (maybe closer to one half) does not pay attention to the stuff that you/we pay attention to.

So if you asked them about Trump/Putin/Europe/Ukraine, or Trump's incredible power grab, or Project 2025, you'd get a blank stare and a shrug of the shoulders. Meh.

Now that the cuts are happening, people are losing their jobs and services are decreasing, we may see all those people take notice. But probably only if they're personally affected. If not....

 

[JoeB131]

You still have 3 years and 11 months left. Isn't it grand!

Actually, more like 1 year and 11 months before the country massively course corrects in the midterms.

Assuming Trump's approval rating doesn't completely bottom out after he does something really stupid and the Republicans realize they'd be better off with President Vance.

 

[Ringo]

American democracy continues to shine with its true “goodness”
After listening to bloodthirsty congressmen, protesters in Denver took to the streets with open calls to execute Trump and Musk
What a bright and progressive people these Democrats are after all!

 

[Harry Dresden]

I surely don't know, but I would bet that at VERY least one third of this country (maybe closer to one half) does not pay attention to the stuff that you/we pay attention to.

So if you asked them about Trump/Putin/Europe/Ukraine, or Trump's incredible power grab, or Project 2025, you'd get a blank stare and a shrug of the shoulders. Meh.

Now that the cuts are happening, people are losing their jobs and services are decreasing, we may see all those people take notice. But probably only if they're personally affected. If not....

does not pay attention to the stuff that you/we pay attention to.
we get it mac....your shit dont stink....

 

[The Duke]

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[berg80]

.do you think you are changing anyones mind?

I didn't write the thread with the expectation to change the minds of small minded trump devotees. Just to force you to deal with certain uncomfortable realities. What you do after that is far beyond my control.

 

[berg80]

I surely don't know, but I would bet that at VERY least one third of this country (maybe closer to one half) does not pay attention to the stuff that you/we pay attention to.

So if you asked them about Trump/Putin/Europe/Ukraine, or Trump's incredible power grab, or Project 2025, you'd get a blank stare and a shrug of the shoulders. Meh.

Now that the cuts are happening, people are losing their jobs and services are decreasing, we may see all those people take notice. But probably only if they're personally affected. If not....

What you describe portends the end of the republic as we have known it. BTW, if you are unfamiliar with it listen to Pritzker's speech, post #14. It presents the kind of even tempered yet alarming observations we need more of as people sleepwalk through history.

 

[Mac1958]

What you describe portends the end of the republic as we have known it. BTW, if you are unfamiliar with it listen to Pritzker's speech, post #14. It presents the kind of even tempered yet alarming observation we need more of as people sleepwalk through history.

I learned in 2016 that America isn't what I thought it was. There was no way we'd fall for this. I was definitely wrong. This is sociological, anthropological, cultural. Not political.

It took me, literally, about six years to finally come to terms with it. Now, it just is what it is. I'm over it. If there were something I could do, I'd surely do it, for the sake of my kids.

 

[jknowgood]

If we survive that long as a constitutional republic.

You're such a drama queen, Trump is going to get the corruption out of our government. I can see why your party is freaking out.

 

[jknowgood]

Actually, more like 1 year and 11 months before the country massively course corrects in the midterms.

Assuming Trump's approval rating doesn't completely bottom out after he does something really stupid and the Republicans realize they'd be better off with President Vance.

Your party will be done before the midterms, Trump is getting corruption out of government.

 

[berg80]

does not pay attention to the stuff that you/we pay attention to.
we get it mac....your shit dont stink....

Take that step, and steel yourself with the knowledge that you are the defender of a 250-year experiment in self-governance—a real-life pluralistic democracy, imperfect as it is, striving to be more perfect. Our predecessors deposed a brain-addled king; they crushed the violent insurrectionists of a slaveholding confederacy; they forced the robber barons to contend with workers and unions; they kicked the Nazis’ asses throughout Europe; they broke the back of the southern segregationist political bloc; they fought back against the terrorizing forces at Stonewall. We have planted ourselves in stubborn opposition to monomaniacal fascists of one form or another for a quarter of a millennium. No entitled reality-TV has-been backed by an addle-brained billionaire who cheats at video games is going to roll over us now.

How to Organize Our Way Out of the Trump-Musk Putsch

A plan to harness grassroots energy—and to hold Democratic leaders accountable.

www.thenation.com

 

[berg80]

Your party will be done before the midterms, Trump is getting corruption out of government.

trump is the definition of corruption. Just as he claimed the DoJ was weaponized as cover for his weaponization of it so too he uses claims he is ending corruption to allow rampant corruption of his own. Wake the fuck up.

 

[JoeB131]

Your party will be done before the midterms, Trump is getting corruption out of government.

Again, when Granny doesn't get her check, you'll be amazed how fast Musk and Trump will be hated.

 

[jknowgood]

trump is the definition of corruption. Just as he claimed the DoJ was weaponized as cover for his weaponization of it so too he uses claims he is ending corruption to allow rampant corruption of his own. Wake the fuck up.

The doj is weaponized you're just too stupid to see it. It needs to be gutted and recognized.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump is beginning to lose traction in most of his endeavors.

 

[berg80]

I learned in 2016 that America isn't what I thought it was. There was no way we'd fall for this. I was definitely wrong. This is sociological, anthropological, cultural. Not political.

It took me, literally, about six years to finally come to terms with it. Now, it just is what it is. I'm over it. If there were something I could do, I'd surely do it, for the sake of my kids.

I have always maintained the belief the institutional memory of democratic traditions will save us from the efforts to erase it. I'm having doubts.

 

[berg80]

Trump is beginning to lose traction in most of his endeavors.

His primary endeavor is to weaken the resolve of those who must stand against him if this experiment is to survive. That includes the resolve of Repubs. As far as that goes it has evaporated. The POT isn't just passively compliant, it is actively enabling him.

 

[Hollie]

Trump grants sweeping pardon of Jan. 6 defendants, including rioters who violently attacked police

President Donald Trump has pardoned, commuted the prison sentences or vowed to dismiss the cases of all of the 1,500-plus people charged with crimes in the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S.

apnews.com

We need to be reminded of that as we are bludgeoned with daily bombardments of actions in contradiction to law, tradition, decency, and reason.

No politician in US history would even have contemplated, or politically survived, such an obscene act of injustice as the release of violent criminals involved in the Jan. 6 riot. Yet it's already been lost in a whirlwind of daily, disorienting events.

The moment trump's decision was announced congressional Repubs should have made it known trump's agenda was DOA on the Hill. The editorial boards of every major media outlet in the country should have published a front page condemnation. Cabinet nominees should have withdrawn their names from consideration. Prison officials should have refused to comply with the pardons. Millions of people should have taken to the streets in protest. Repubs among them.

It's time for a reset. It's time we recognize the magnitude of just how abnormal these times are rather than normalize the bizarre idea of having a convicted criminal who pardoned violent, convicted criminals as prez. Collectively, we need to............

The expected leftist double when considering ole’ Pardon Joe and his pardons intended to cover his tracks in Ukraine and China.

 

[Hollie]

His primary endeavor is to weaken the resolve of those who must stand against him if this experiment is to survive. That includes the resolve of Repubs. As far as that goes it has evaporated. The POT isn't just passively compliant, it is enabling him.

His primary endeavor is to expose the fraud and corruption of the left.

USAID was a watershed in terms of how the left steals taxpayer money to press their politico- religious ideology across the globe.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I didn't write the thread with the expectation to change the minds of small minded trump devotees. Just to force you to deal with certain uncomfortable realities. What you do after that is far beyond my control.

you mean the realities that you are uncomfortable with?.....