Trumps old Chief of Staff calls out Fox News

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

I think you are projecting you are fear my second amendment rights and free speech

I can always tell when I hit a nerve, your grammar and punctuation go right out the window.

 

[Dragonlady]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

Trumpists aren't "smart Americans". Trumpists won't listen to or believe John Kelly. Once Trump trashes somebody, he's dead to them and they'll call him a liar. John Bolton, who was the darling of and a hero to the hard right Republicans up until he was fired/quit the White House. Now they're screaming for him to be tried for treason and thrown in jail.

These pivots occur the instant they're fired. It's like that scene in 1984 where the Minister of Truth is giving a speech decrying their mortal enemy Eurasia, and praising their ally Eastasia, and the crowd responds appropriately, then he's handed a piece of paper and he pivots to praising their ally Eurasia and they cheer Eurasia, and now decry their new enemy Eastasia without missing a beat. That is the reality of the Trump Cult.

But what is most troubling is the way he treats those who speak up or criticize him in any way. It's not enough that he fires them, it's the nasty and vindictive manner in which he destroys their life in every way possible that is so odious, and just low class. The insults, abuse, bullying and attempts to prosecute his "enemies" which is most dangerous and wrong.

 

[Jitss617]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

You state lies without posting links to back them up. FXN is "fair and balanced", the MSM, and I watch them all, rarely have Republicans in their debates to present "alternate facts". Kelly has an axe to grind, factor that into your analysis.
Harvard study proves Fox is the most balanced network. | Elite Trader
Harvard Study reveals media bias

Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days set a new standard for negativity. Findings include:

• President Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
• Every news outlet in the study was negative more often than positive.
• Fox was the only news outlet that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall

Are you kidding? Even the name is a lie. Faux doesn't do news, they do talk shows and entertainment.

I’m watching right now they are talking about how illegals lower our wages! They have experts on.. I just got news! I love it

 

[Jitss617]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

I think you are projecting you are fear my second amendment rights and free speech

I can always tell when I hit a nerve, your grammar and punctuation go right out the window.

Don’t fear me ... hehe

 

[Crepitus]

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

Corporations are giving them your jobs to artificially suppress your wages.

 

[Jitss617]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

Trumpists aren't "smart Americans". Trumpists won't listen to or believe John Kelly. Once Trump trashes somebody, he's dead to them and they'll call him a liar. John Bolton, who was the darling of and a hero to the hard right Republicans up until he was fired/quit the White House. Now they're screaming for him to be tried for treason and thrown in jail.

These pivots occur the instant they're fired. It's like that scene in 1984 where the Minister of Truth is giving a speech decrying their mortal enemy Eurasia, and praising their ally Eastasia, and the crowd responds appropriately, then he's handed a piece of paper and he pivots to praising their ally Eurasia and they cheer Eurasia, and now decry their new enemy Eastasia without missing a beat. That is the reality of the Trump Cult.

But what is most troubling is the way he treats those who speak up or criticize him in any way. It's not enough that he fires them, it's the nasty and vindictive manner in which he destroys their life in every way possible that is so odious, and just low class. The insults, abuse, bullying and attempts to prosecute his "enemies" which is most dangerous and wrong.

Cool story.. you didn’t answer my question..

 

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

 

[Jitss617]

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

Corporations are giving them your jobs to artificially suppress your wages.

Ohh I was just told it was small business, roofers and American contractors.. which is it? Lol

 

[blackhawk]

If your only watching CNN or MSNBC because it reinforces what you believe your still not an informed citizen.

 

[Nostra]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Stick to your gubmint run propaganda TV up there in Canada.

We don't care what you think.

 

[Crepitus]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

You state lies without posting links to back them up. FXN is "fair and balanced", the MSM, and I watch them all, rarely have Republicans in their debates to present "alternate facts". Kelly has an axe to grind, factor that into your analysis.
Harvard study proves Fox is the most balanced network. | Elite Trader
Harvard Study reveals media bias

Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days set a new standard for negativity. Findings include:

• President Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
• Every news outlet in the study was negative more often than positive.
• Fox was the only news outlet that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall

Are you kidding? Even the name is a lie. Faux doesn't do news, they do talk shows and entertainment.

I’m watching right now they are talking about how illegals lower our wages! They have experts on.. I just got news! I love it

I know you love it, but you didn't get any news.

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

I think you are projecting you are fear my second amendment rights and free speech

I can always tell when I hit a nerve, your grammar and punctuation go right out the window.

Don’t fear me ... hehe

you finally got something right.

Nobody fears you.

 

[Dragonlady]

I think Trump gets on the wrong side of bureaucratic, government types because he expects a good days work from them. After a while, all government workers become dogs and are incapable of operating at a level Trump expects. In other words, most government workers are overpaid slugs. If they don't like it, get the hell out and get a real job.

Trump is an overpaid slug. Fat, lazy, stupid. He spends his morning on "Executive Time" - watching TV and tweeting and threatening vengeance on his "enemies". Shows up for work at 11:00, and he's done by 6:00. And he only works four days a week.

And still you fools believe he's doing right by you.

Look who's talking your clown in Canada is a joke.

I'd love to see Trudeau take on Trump in the boxing ring. But that would never happen. Trump is too chicken to visit the troops in a war zone, much less risk getting himself hurt. Most bullies are chickens. They pick on those less powerful than them and would never take on a real Alpha male.

The rest of the world doesn't laugh in Trudeau's face when he speaks at the United Nations, like they do with Dumb Donald. Trump is laughed at in public by other world leaders. The attitude in the rest of the world is to ignore the asshole, and work around him until he's gone.

Canada has joined the TPP with China and the rest of the Pacific Rim countries to increase trade within the region. We've signed a big new deal with Europe. Our agricultural products are more suited to the European markets because Canadians don't like Monsanto Frankenfood either.

And the Europeans signed their biggest trade deal ever, with Japan.

Thanks to Donald Trump, you have no trade deals with anyone - not the Chinese (that phony agreement with China really resolved nothing but after two years of pain for farmers he had to do something. It's too little, too late given all of the family farm bankruptcies, but the big corporate farmers are making out like bandits on the subsidies.

Like everything else Trump has done to the economy, the net effect is the small business people are being destroyed and the big corporations are picking up the piece. The rich get richer, the rest are falling further behind.

The gap between rich and poor under Trump is widening, and the rate the gap is widening is accelerating. Trump isn't helping American workers. He's helping American oligarchs.

 

[Crepitus]

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

Corporations are giving them your jobs to artificially suppress your wages.

Ohh I was just told it was small business, roofers and American contractors.. which is it? Lol

Where?

 

[Jitss617]

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

You state lies without posting links to back them up. FXN is "fair and balanced", the MSM, and I watch them all, rarely have Republicans in their debates to present "alternate facts". Kelly has an axe to grind, factor that into your analysis.
Harvard study proves Fox is the most balanced network. | Elite Trader
Harvard Study reveals media bias

Trump’s coverage during his first 100 days set a new standard for negativity. Findings include:

• President Trump has received unsparing coverage for most weeks of his presidency, without a single major topic where coverage, on balance, was more positive than negative, setting a new standard for unfavorable press coverage of a president.
• Every news outlet in the study was negative more often than positive.
• Fox was the only news outlet that came close to giving Trump positive coverage overall

Are you kidding? Even the name is a lie. Faux doesn't do news, they do talk shows and entertainment.

I’m watching right now they are talking about how illegals lower our wages! They have experts on.. I just got news! I love it

I know you love it, but you didn't get any news.

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

And jitler there is nothing but a tight bundle of fear, the perfect end result of RW media manipulation.

I think you are projecting you are fear my second amendment rights and free speech

I can always tell when I hit a nerve, your grammar and punctuation go right out the window.

Don’t fear me ... hehe

you finally got something right.

Nobody fears you.

Foreigners lowering my wages my fellow American wages is not news? I thought it was ..lol kinda important to know what’s going on

 

[healthmyths]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Kelly obviously IS NOT informed.
He evidently didn't know that...
In 2016, a study by the Center for Public Integrity showed that 96% of campaign donations by journalists went to Hillary Clinton,
compared to just 3.5% which went to Trump.
While coverage of President Obama included 59% favorable content among the 10 news outlets compared to 41% negative,
coverage of President Trump has included a whopping 80% of reporting that is negative in tone, with just 20% that is positive.
Nor is this partisan leaning among reporters anything new. According to the conservative Media Research Center, in 1992, journalists broke 89% to 7% in favor of then Governor Clinton over President George H.W. Bush, with a further 2% supporting Texas billionaire Ross Perot.
In 1996, just 15% of newspaper writers said they identified as conservatives. Among all journalists, just 6% said they were conservatives in 2001.

Just how biased is the media against Trump?

But of course Kelly goes on and chastises ONLY we Trump supporters as misinformed!
Seems pretty obvious to me that the biased MSM's news reports went where their money went... supporting Hillary,Democrats and against people like me.

Kelly is definitely a member of the swamp as he insisted Trump follow what prior Presidents did... if the president was a Democrat.. continue to do all sorts of lying.."46 million uninsured Americans", "half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions" and the Media never questions... but if a GOP... unless the
Presidents bowed to the MSM as Trump HASN"T DONE... the GOP were presented badly... but Trump even more so!

So I attribute Kelly's comments to his trying to appeal to quote ass kissing MSM!

 

[Jitss617]

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

Corporations are giving them your jobs to artificially suppress your wages.

Ohh I was just told it was small business, roofers and American contractors.. which is it? Lol

Where?

 

[Nostra]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Lol, facts aren't arguments son.

This is one of the big things wrong with the RW these days, you guys think facts a variables.

Do you not think Americans are smart enough to listen to a debate between Kelly and Tucker Carlson and pick a winner?

Trumpists aren't "smart Americans". Trumpists won't listen to or believe John Kelly. Once Trump trashes somebody, he's dead to them and they'll call him a liar. John Bolton, who was the darling of and a hero to the hard right Republicans up until he was fired/quit the White House. Now they're screaming for him to be tried for treason and thrown in jail.

These pivots occur the instant they're fired. It's like that scene in 1984 where the Minister of Truth is giving a speech decrying their mortal enemy Eurasia, and praising their ally Eastasia, and the crowd responds appropriately, then he's handed a piece of paper and he pivots to praising their ally Eurasia and they cheer Eurasia, and now decry their new enemy Eastasia without missing a beat. That is the reality of the Trump Cult.

But what is most troubling is the way he treats those who speak up or criticize him in any way. It's not enough that he fires them, it's the nasty and vindictive manner in which he destroys their life in every way possible that is so odious, and just low class. The insults, abuse, bullying and attempts to prosecute his "enemies" which is most dangerous and wrong.

You aren't even an American, so nobody cares what you think about our government.

 

[Nostra]

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

The real truth told deeply is not allowed. The real truth of the inner cities. The real truth of the gay communities. The real truth of the insidious quotas and political correctness that has diminished our nation as a competitor in the world. By the late 1960's more and more men stopped protecting women. Today it is more that will not defend a woman then do. A lot more. And a higher percentage of them that do are the deplorables. You compare people to much. Saying what is strong and what is not. Giving one the same position is not the same as proving oneself as one of the best. Or one of the best of the best. It is easy for you to spout this. For you and many of us in the west live off of men and women working in slave shops around the world. In the near future, perhaps a couple of decades or so, these nations are/will become more self sustainable and we won't be first on the list for their products. That is what is happening just in part.

Americans are eating because of the virtual slave labour of illegal immigrant farm workers. The plant and harvest the crops that end up on middle class tables. Farmers are desperate for workers to harvest crops and jurisdictions which have choked off illegal immigration have farmers whose crops are rotting in the field.

The American economy has always depended on a large pool of cheap labour to build wealth. First it was the indentured workers. Followed by the slaves, and then the "guest" workers - primarily from China, and then finally, illegal immigrants.

The wealthy have always feared the poor. They feared that if the poor whites and the poor blacks ever got together, they'd be attacked and their wealth stolen. So they set about pit poor whites against poor blacks so they would never have to fear a revolt against their wealth and power.

This continues to this day with Reagan's welfare queen lies, and the continual lies that lazy minorities are violent and dangerous. Crime isn't driven by race, it's driven by poverty, and in the USA, the highest rates of poverty are among blacks and Latinos, who face systemic racism and discrimination to this day.

Rural America now has higher crime rates than most inner cities - all because of the loss of manufacturing in the heartland and the opiod crisis. The opiod crisis was created by Big Pharma pushing opiod drugs to Americans. The medical industrial complex and Big Pharma have learned what every drug dealer knows, nothing is as reliably profitable as a drug addict. The opiod crisis has hit the hardest in areas which loss auto manufacturing plants. Drug addiciton, alcoholism and suicide are the "diseases of despair".

Who do Republicans blame for this mess? Mexicans, minorities, and bad choices by bad people. Not the companies who automated or who shipped jobs overseas for higher profits. Certainly not the government who didn't offer re-training, or skills upgrades to the workers their policies were affecting. Not Big Pharma companies which made BILLIONS by addicting Americans and then started developing expensive drugs to "cure" the addictions to profit further.

And still Republicans pit poor whites against poor black and keep ginning up the fear and loathing. When are poor whites people going to stop believing all of their lies and bullshit? Now you have the government turning your children into indentured servants to the student loans, saddling those who know they need a good education to get a good job, with $40,000 in student debt. And you have to repay this money, even if you go bankrupt.

When Ronald Reagan was elected President, you had a 20% chance of working your way out of poverty and into the middle class. Today, your chance is 2%. Republicans don't want poor white people to have a chance. They want to profit off your work, but you'll be working to pay off those student loans for the next 20 years.

And still you fools keep voting for Republicans waiting for the wealth to "trickle down" to you. Stop letting guy like Trump piss on you and tell you it's raining. When I applied for Business School, my tuition was $2,000 per year. If one of my grandkids wants to take that course, it's $20,000 per year. That's $80,000 for a business degree. This is a fiscal ball and chain on this general, and the government owns your ass.

So Americans live get better with millions of illegals taking our jobs then LOWERING OUR wages lol ahhh got cha


I was at a Home Depot the other day and The walk there I walked down the meth mile with all the junkies, I got there and saw many illegals waiting to be picked up for cheap labor... it occurred to me that if these low wage illegals weren’t here then a window of opportunity would have been open for one the kids Hooked on meth to say I’m done let me get this good wage job there is demand for me.. these people struggling can’t even get a dishwashing job because of the wages... and the lack of protection of our culture in these jobs that protect foreigners far more then us.. People that hate Americans and are enjoying this generation struggling are going to pay a major price

Corporations are giving them your jobs to artificially suppress your wages.

Your party refuses to send them home so they can't suppress wages.

 

[healthmyths]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

What's true and what's false, isn't an argument. People who watch FOX know less about REAL current events than people who never watch the news. FOX gives the conservative point of view on the news, but they don't actually have journalistic ethics and standards. On air personalities are told what stories to push, and what point of view to present. Facts are optional, truth isn't even a consideration.

Jeff Bezos owns the Washington Post but is well known to keep out of its editorial and political operations. The rest of the the MSM is owned by public corporations, who have to answer to their shareholders, and who take journnalistic ethics seriously, to maintain public trust.

Media which is owned by right wing billionaires exists for the purpose of promoting the Republican Party and right wing policies which gives tax cuts to their billionaire owners. They count on ginning up fear and anger in the base against all things liberal and they don't care about truth or facts.

All of the leading right wing media outlets are owned by billionaires. The Murdochs own FOX and the Wall Street Journal, the Mercers who own Breitbart, another website that promotes anti-immigrant garbage, racism and other lies, and the Sinclairs who own lots and lots of local FOX network stations.

Do you watch Fox News?

I have watched it but it's insipid, and they just flat out lie. A lot. I don't have much patience for liars. And they constantly try to gin up outrage against liberals. FOX heavily promoted the Birther lies. Stuff like that. Sometimes I just tune in for the entertainment value of watching something so bad that it's hard to believe anyone falls for this crap.

If anyone from CNN (another network I have little use for), had broadcast that Seth Rich fiction that Hannity broadcast, which FOX was forced to publically retract and apologize for, and which resulted in two lawsuits that FOX was forced to settle, that reporter would have been fired. Hannity got sent "on vacation" for a couple of weeks, and that was it.

There's also a total "dirty old man" vibe to FOX that just creeps me out. All of the women are young and blond, and dressed in short, tight, sleeveless dresses, sitting on sofas so you can peek up their skirts. The men are all much, much older. Few of the women do substantive reporting. That's left to the men. I felt this way LONG before I learned about Roger Ailes and Bill O'Reilly and their sexual harassment suit.

All of your comments are subjective. Personal. Not supported by the majority.
Here are results of a survey...
Brand Keys – “Fake TV News” Engenders More Trust Than The President

 

[bodecea]

John Kelly called out Fox News during a speech and not in a positive way. Interesting that a Conservative ex trump guy would point at Fox instead of the big bad MSM.

Analysis: John Kelly's biggest slam wasn't even about Trump — CNN Politics

"The media, in my view, and I feel very strongly about this, is not the enemy of the people," Kelly said. "We need a free media. That said, you have to be careful about what you are watching and reading, because the media has taken sides. So if you only watch Fox News, because it's reinforcing what you believe, you are not an informed citizen."

Why doesn’t he and other democrats face off with Hannity or tucker and let the people decide who won the argument.. he won’t.. he’s a coward

Speaking of cowards.....who's that carnival barking clown with the orange make-up? And who supports him?