Trump's moves on RACE

I seriously doubt that you even know what DEI is.
Since I actually ran a business, I do. And what I do know is that the argument you guys make in opposition is racist on its face.
 
DEI isn't just about race. Believing that is racist.
You cannot legally discriminate against anyone for immutable characteristics in hiring.

“He was not the most qualified, but he is in a wheelchair, so we hired him over the more qualified marathon runner.”

That is discrimination.
 
You can thank the fact that Trump was elected, because all of that was coming down the pike this year if Kamala had won.

You'd have to watch what you post here on USMB, because saying the wrong thing could get your door kicked down.
You elected that when you voted for trump.
 
That's not detailing how reparations will work, that's just throwing tax payer money at something, as usual. The devil is in the details, which is what you refuse to discuss.

How far back in history should we go to take from one group to give to another? Or is current day American blacks the only group that matters?

You're wasting your time with that one. Stupid as a sack of frozen hammers
 
You cannot legally discriminate against anyone for immutable characteristics in hiring.

“He was not the most qualified, but he is in a wheelchair, so we hired him over the more qualified marathon runner.”

That is discrimination.
A business cannot say that to a person who wasn't hired. That is a violation of employment law. So if a business is 90 percent white and they hire a black person instead of another white one, they aren't practicing discrimination against whites.
 
My biggest disappointment with Barack Obama was the fact that no American President has ever been better-equipped to firmly address America's profound racial issues, and he essentially voted "present" instead of tackling them head on.

Biden? Uh, no.

On the other hand, and this is not easy for me to say, Donald Trump does find himself in a position to address race. Why that is, is a separate issue. But the way he's handling it -- decrees that just summarily wipe away any number of issues centering around race -- is a mistake. Instead, he could be carefully explaining WHY he believes that initiatives like DEI are not in America's best interests, and neither are they in the best interest of those they purport to be "helping". Isn't that the point of all this?

The opportunity is right there, waiting for him. But he's not taking it. Obviously he personally doesn't have the capacity to communicate these things contemporaneously, but that's not necessarily needed. He can do it in a speech that is carefully written for him (as long as he sticks to the words, of course). Get the ideas out into society, get Americans to talk to each other about it. But it has to start with Trump.

Instead, they're just going to cram this stuff down the country's throat, with no explanations, no discussion, no communication. It's a terribly wasted opportunity.



That's not in Trump's skill set. I think plenty of liberals are ready to hear the "whys" of all this, to consider different ways of dealing with racism and bigotry. But Trump isn't capable of, and doesn't seem interested in, real leadership. He's just going to hack and slash and drive everyone into their respective corners.
I’m confused at how/why you are all so confused…are you pretending to be confused?
Trump is simply unwinding the inorganic ignorant as hell creations that a fucked in the head out of control Lib government has concocted…We never should have had 50-100 million hispanics here, we never should have hired unqualified people for ANYTHING, we never should have given mortgage or business loans to anyone for their skin color…We’ve all been living within a really bad science fiction movie…one that never made any fucking sense, one that was never based on viability and or sustainability….Trump has simply set-out to restore pragmatic, common sense, logical governance…Why are you so resistant to such action?
 
A business cannot say that to a person who wasn't hired. That is a violation of employment law. So if a business is 90 percent white and they hire a black person instead of another white one, they aren't practicing discrimination against whites.

I didnt say the employer would admit to the applicant they discriminated based on race, but you know those peer to peer discussions occur. HR can lean on the hiring managerl

I am saying the most qualified should get the job.

DISCRIMINATION PRO OR CON BASED ON IMMUTABLE CHARACTERISTIC IS ILLEGAL.

White people on the court in the NBA is not representative of the nation. You clearly are FOR more DIVERSITY ON THE COURT IN THE NBA, based on the example you just gave.
 
I’m confused at how/why you are all so confused…are you pretending to be confused?
Trump is simply unwinding the inorganic ignorant as hell creations that a fucked in the head out of control Lib government has concocted…We never should have had 50-100 million hispanics here, we never should have hired unqualified people for ANYTHING, we never should have given mortgage or business loans to anyone for their skin color…We’ve all been living within a really bad science fiction movie…one that never made any fucking sense, one that was never based on viability and or sustainability….Trump has simply set-out to restore common sense logical governance…Why are you so resistant to such action?
You are either confused or ignorant of history.

And what should not be here according to the way this place was inhabited before whites floated over here believing they found a new world are 200 million whites. Those "hispanics" were here before the white man. What whites have done has created a system that has probably lost more than 200 trillion dollars since this nation began, and over 50 trillion in the last 35 years. Your racism has created the richest nation in the world that is in perpetual debt. So common sense has nothing do with the delusion you and trump believe about this country.
 
Welcome to being an American.

I never understood racial prejudice when I was a kid.

Remember what MLK said, judge a man not by the color of his skin but by his character.

I got a first hand education in racism growing up. I was born in Detroit. My neighborhood quickly turned all black after the first black moved in. So I saw what white flight does. I also saw blacks are racist too when they have the power to be.

Then I moved out to all white Metro Detroit FINALLY we got out. Then I witnessed how ignorant white boys are raised to be racist by their parents. Kids who've never seen a black person before had real bad views of blacks. From what their parents told them. Some of it's true but still, it's racist to paint them all with that brush.

Then these white boys grow up and get the hiring managers job. Do you think they are going to hire a black person?

Look. I get it. I've known way too many blacks to threaten to sue when they got fired. For discrimination. If I were a hiring manager, I'd be worried about that too. You don't have to worry about that with whites. We just take it like men.

And I get it. Women are going to quit on you after 5 years to have kids. Even if they say they won't, they probably will. So you don't fast track them for upper management. Because you know they're going to quit on you.

Blacks don't show up early, stay late, take on the hard assignments. It's not that someone just picks a white guy and says HIM. That white guy has put in the hours. Not too many black guys putting in the hours in corporate America. They are lazy, show up late, and not the sharpest tools in the shed. Usually.
 
You are either confused or ignorant of history.

And what should not be here according to the way this place was inhabited before whites floated over here believing they found a new world are 200 million whites. Those "hispanics" were here before the white man. What whites have done has created a system that has probably lost more than 200 trillion dollars since this nation began, and over 50 trillion in the last 35 years. Your racism has created the richest nation in the world that is in perpetual debt. So common sense has nothing do with the delusion you and trump believe about this country.
dblack don’t be afraid…go ahead and engage. Is the fake negro right?
 
Trump understands that you're never going to solve a problem by screwing one group in favor of another.

Systemic-racism in any form causes more racism. Affirmative-action is a prime example.

Government shouldn't be in the business of propping up one race, and showing favoritism, while screwing everyone else.

Maybe one day you'll understand this.
DEI doesn’t screw anyone

Lack of it DOES
 
I know what you dumb MAGAts do. I don't need it explained by a moron like yourself. When a company is doing great that's because of the stewardship of the CEO and when it's in decline that's because of the Black or Mexican or Lesbian in the mail room. Makes total MAGAt sense. :lol:

No one is blaming the mail room employee.

Why do you have to lie and argue something no one said?!?

I know why.

Because you can't argue the truth.



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I will believe these race hustlers when they INSIST less talented WHITE PLAYERS be on the court in the NBA.

I say the best players should take the court regardless of sex race religion handicap.

Those pushing DEI demand DIVERSITY. So demand it in the NBA.
 
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