Trump's Jewish mediator condemns Palestinian violence

[Shusha]

Put another way, the Jewish people want all of Israel, Judea and Samaria. Who could argue with that?

 

[Correll]

Ignoring the hostile intent of one of the parties in not a rational act.

Zionist colonization is the first hostility.

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

 

[Eloy]

So, in the name of all that is decent, please stop once and for all suggesting that Jews are different from their countrymen and women in Europe and elsewhere and among whom they belong. Quit doing Hitler's work for his ghost that stalks the lands where racial and cultural hate poisons the soil soaked in the blood of the innocent.

Whoa. Stop and think for just a minute. The implications of your post are disgusting.

You are asserting because I believe the Jewish people have a homeland I am doing Hitler's work? Full pause for effect here.

The HORROR! How very HITLERESQUE of me to say that the Jewish people, like all indigenous peoples have the right to a homeland. To self-determination. To sovereignty.

You are equating my assertion of equal rights for the Jewish people with Hitler's wish to exterminate the Jewish people as though they were not only related, but equivalent.


So let's be really, really clear about my response to your disgusting suggestion:

The Jewish people are fully permitted by any stretch of humanitarian law, to be present anywhere in the world, with full expectations of not being persecuted, oppressed, ghettoized, pogromed, murdered, killed, cleansed or genocided. Got that? It doesn't matter if the Jewish people adopt the local culture or maintain their own culture. NOTHING that the Jewish people do or do not do, think or do not think and be or do not be legitimizes their persecution, oppression, ghettoization, cleansing or genocide.

No conversation about the Jewish homeland changes that. And its disgusting that you should bring this into the conversation.

You have a right to be disgusted by your realization that Hitler and you believe the Jews are different from Europeans. Therein lies the seed of the Final Solution.

 

[Eloy]

Put another way, the Jewish people want all of Israel, Judea and Samaria. Who could argue with that?

Stop speaking for the Jewish people.

 

[Correll]

So, in the name of all that is decent, please stop once and for all suggesting that Jews are different from their countrymen and women in Europe and elsewhere and among whom they belong. Quit doing Hitler's work for his ghost that stalks the lands where racial and cultural hate poisons the soil soaked in the blood of the innocent.

Whoa. Stop and think for just a minute. The implications of your post are disgusting.

You are asserting because I believe the Jewish people have a homeland I am doing Hitler's work? Full pause for effect here.

The HORROR! How very HITLERESQUE of me to say that the Jewish people, like all indigenous peoples have the right to a homeland. To self-determination. To sovereignty.

You are equating my assertion of equal rights for the Jewish people with Hitler's wish to exterminate the Jewish people as though they were not only related, but equivalent.


So let's be really, really clear about my response to your disgusting suggestion:

The Jewish people are fully permitted by any stretch of humanitarian law, to be present anywhere in the world, with full expectations of not being persecuted, oppressed, ghettoized, pogromed, murdered, killed, cleansed or genocided. Got that? It doesn't matter if the Jewish people adopt the local culture or maintain their own culture. NOTHING that the Jewish people do or do not do, think or do not think and be or do not be legitimizes their persecution, oppression, ghettoization, cleansing or genocide.

No conversation about the Jewish homeland changes that. And its disgusting that you should bring this into the conversation.

You have a right to be disgusted by your realization that Hitler and you believe the Jews are different from Europeans. Therein lies the seed of the Final Solution.

Errr, believing that Jews are a group distinct from Europeans is hardly the "seed" of the Final Solution.

 

[Shusha]

You have a right to be disgusted by your realization that Hitler and you believe the Jews are different from Europeans. Therein lies the seed of the Final Solution.

You continue to be disgusting in your claim that Hitler's problem was that he thought Jews were different from Europeans.

Hitler's problem was not that he thought Jews were different from Europeans. Hitler's problem was that he thought ethnic and cultural difference was a justification for exterminating people as though they were rats. Hitler's problem was that difference posed a capital letter Question and required a capital letter Solution.

Human populations don't have to be homogeneous in order to reject the idea of exterminating people.

 

[Shusha]

Stop speaking for the Jewish people.

Why? Why should I stop speaking for the Jewish people? And what gives you the right to demand that of me?

If the Jewish people who frequent this board want me to stop posting because my comments do not represent their position or because my comments have no value THEY can ask me to stop. And I will respect their request.

 

[Eloy]

Stop speaking for the Jewish people.

Why? Why should I stop speaking for the Jewish people? And what gives you the right to demand that of me?

If the Jewish people who frequent this board want me to stop posting because my comments do not represent their position or because my comments have no value THEY can ask me to stop. And I will respect their request.

You pretend to speak for the Jewish people but you are self-appointed. I suspect you fairly do represent the opinions of Zionists but not all Jews think as you do and they are citizens of the European Union, loyal to the liberal and democratic values of our democracies.

 

[Lipush]

Ignoring the hostile intent of one of the parties in not a rational act.

Zionist colonization is the first hostility.

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

They should have a problem with that since the Jews will fight them. and the Jews have tendency to win.

 

[Lipush]

Stop speaking for the Jewish people.

Why? Why should I stop speaking for the Jewish people? And what gives you the right to demand that of me?

If the Jewish people who frequent this board want me to stop posting because my comments do not represent their position or because my comments have no value THEY can ask me to stop. And I will respect their request.

You pretend to speak for the Jewish people but you are self-appointed. I suspect you fairly do represent the opinions of Zionists but not all Jews think as you do and they are citizens of the European Union, loyal to the liberal and democratic values of our democracies.

More than half worldwide Jews are Zionists. So it's fair to say we agree with her on that aspect.

Second, what is this stupid claim you just gave? You say Zionist Jews living outside of Israel have no loyaly to their countries? who gave you the right to claim such a stupid thing?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Zionist colonization is the first hostility.

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

 

[Hollie]

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

Citizens of "The country of Pally'land""

 

[ForeverYoung436]

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

Stop speaking for the Palestinian people. You are not even Palestinian yourself. Besides that, did you take a survey of them?

 

[Correll]

a. An interesting claim. YOu consider illegal immigration to be an Act of War?

b. And that was quite some time ago. How long they going to hold onto that?

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

The Israelis have been living on part of that land for generations. THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.


YOU are the one that wants to pick and choose who's rights are respected.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Until the problem is addressed.

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

The Israelis have been living on part of that land for generations. THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.


YOU are the one that wants to pick and choose who's rights are respected.

THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.

The operative word here is too. The Zionists did not want to live there too. They wanted to pig the place for themselves. This was the start of the violation of Palestinian rights and international law, and of course the beginning of the conflict that has been brewing for the last hundred years.

Leila Farsakh: Mandatory Palestine prior to 1939 - Opposition to British policy and Zionist project

 

[Hollie]

The problem has been addressed countless times.


By Addressed, I assume you mean, given everything they want?

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

The Israelis have been living on part of that land for generations. THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.


YOU are the one that wants to pick and choose who's rights are respected.

THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.

The operative word here is too. The Zionists did not want to live there too. They wanted to pig the place for themselves. This was the start of the violation of Palestinian rights and international law, and of course the beginning of the conflict that has been brewing for the last hundred years.

Leila Farsakh: Mandatory Palestine prior to 1939 - Opposition to British policy and Zionist project

Well, yeah. Those fair minded Islamic fascists had everyone's best interests at heart.

 

[louie888]

The Palestinians want all of Palestine.

Why should anyone have a problem with that?

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

The Israelis have been living on part of that land for generations. THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.


YOU are the one that wants to pick and choose who's rights are respected.

THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.

The operative word here is too. The Zionists did not want to live there too. They wanted to pig the place for themselves. This was the start of the violation of Palestinian rights and international law, and of course the beginning of the conflict that has been brewing for the last hundred years.

Leila Farsakh: Mandatory Palestine prior to 1939 - Opposition to British policy and Zionist project

Well, yeah. Those fair minded Islamic fascists had everyone's best interests at heart.

Well, the admittedly NOT fair minded European fascists who call themselves Jews have everyone's best interests at heart, right?

 

[Hollie]

Because they are not the only ones with a claim to that land.

The Palestinians are the citizens of Palestine. This status gives them the standard list of rights for the people of the place. Nobody has the right to violate those rights.

The Israelis have been living on part of that land for generations. THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.


YOU are the one that wants to pick and choose who's rights are respected.

THat makes them natives and gives them rights too.

The operative word here is too. The Zionists did not want to live there too. They wanted to pig the place for themselves. This was the start of the violation of Palestinian rights and international law, and of course the beginning of the conflict that has been brewing for the last hundred years.

Leila Farsakh: Mandatory Palestine prior to 1939 - Opposition to British policy and Zionist project

Well, yeah. Those fair minded Islamic fascists had everyone's best interests at heart.

Well, the admittedly NOT fair minded European fascists who call themselves Jews have everyone's best interests at heart, right?

Of course, Habib, you're offended that everyone is not quite so sanguine about those wholesome medieval Islamic values of sharia, gee-had, and... holy mass murder.

 

[Coyote]

He should condemn Palestinian violence.

Now lets see if he condemns the settlements.

 

[Shusha]

He should condemn Palestinian violence.

Now lets see if he condemns the settlements.

Interesting that you draw a parallel between the presence of Jews and murdering Jews as if there was a moral equivalence there. Should we be condemning Arab presence in Israel as well?