Trump's China Charade

[Godboy]

I have no idea why you people don't get that two months ago, China was charging us a 67% tariff and we were charging them 34%. Now they're both at 10%. How is this not an enormous win for the US? We are not 'where we were before the Trump tariff". We are hundreds of billions of dollars richer. What is hard to understand about that?

Actually, China is now at 10% and we are at 30%. Its an undeniable win.

 

[Mashmont]

Trump played us all with the threat to raise the tariffs.

He scammed us, all his buddies made another fortune in the market (I did very well once I realized what he was doing), and if the US/China levels at 30/10, the recession will not happen and inflation will go up minimally.

If this was his game, well played, and we all got scammed.

You talk nonsense. Unrelated to what happened. Be known a serious chatter to be taken seriously. Don't be clown who says irrational things.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Trump played us all with the threat to raise the tariffs.

He scammed us, all his buddies made another fortune in the market (I did very well once I realized what he was doing), and if the US/China levels at 30/10, the recession will not happen and inflation will go up minimally.

If this was his game, well played, and we all got scammed.

Were you one who mentioned the market drop when he announced tariffs? Trump won. Be brought China to its knees.

 

[Mashmont]

Sure do cowboy, hundreds of different classes and rates. I posted the link to the Peterson data, it goes on an average. We never approached 65% average tariff rate in China.

President Trump said otherwise. I believe President Trump. He delivers.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

You talk nonsense. Unrelated to what happened. Be known a serious chatter to be taken seriously. Don't be clown who says irrational things.

They get this nonsense from their tribal leaders at MSNBS and Politico.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

He got what was best for us, he knows how to make deals. If you didn't have tds, you would realize that. If that's a scam, he needs to scam you everyday.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You talk nonsense. Unrelated to what happened. Be known a serious chatter to be taken seriously. Don't be clown who says irrational things.

You are describing yourself.

Trump is immunized. Some of his cabinet members and staffers on 'scam day' are facing investigation.

 

[jknowgood]

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Lol, you're a good loon. Name one thing Trump has done to make him a fascist.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Lol, you're a good loon. Name one thing Trump has done to make him a fascist.

That's been done here hundreds of times.

So, "no, not just once more."

 

[jknowgood]

That's been done here hundreds of times.

So, "no, not just once more."

It's a wonder that's what all you loons tell me. Just one, entertain me.

 

[Zafira Cherry]

‘Trump’s deal with China follows a familiar script. Trump imposed preposterously high tariffs on China of 145 percent, effectively a boycott. China retaliated by imposing its own tariffs of 125 percent and blocking exports of critical materials such as rare earths that America needs.

Predictably, the damage was expected to be massive. So Trump needed an escape hatch. Once again, his administration has “suspended” the exorbitant tariffs, lowering them to 30 percent—the same range as the current tariffs of 25 percent on much of China’s exports. The Chinese reciprocated by cutting tariffs on U.S. exports to 10 percent.

The “suspension” of the higher tariffs will be in place for 90 days, while a joint working group addresses more fundamental issues. This will not solve the immediate looming shortage of Chinese imports that has been building for over a month, and even 30 percent is a stiff tariff. But more fundamentally, the deeper issues dividing the U.S. from China will not be solved in 90 days, if ever, and today China has the upper hand.
[…]
So Trump’s adventure in creating a de facto boycott of China, and then his pullback, leaves the U.S.-China relationship exactly where it was, with no progress toward the deeper issues. If anything, China has a lot more leverage on the U.S. than vice versa, and is more astute about using it.’

Trump’s China Charade

Today on TAP: It’s the usual script—create a crisis, then back off and claim victory.

prospect.org

Of course, Trump and his defenders will continue to lie about the ‘deal’ being ‘successful.’

good one. China has The YAM by the testicles and he is a squealing like a stuck pig. MAGAs can not comprehend this.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's a wonder that's what all you loons tell me. Just one, entertain me.

No, it's been explained many times before. You sound like a four-year-old who does not like an answer he knows he can't get over.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Time is running out.​

 

[Mashmont]

You are describing yourself.

Trump is immunized. Some of his cabinet members and staffers on 'scam day' are facing investigation.

There's no scam. Trump is bringing unprecedented prosperity to the US and to the world. Why don't you climb aboard and stop trolling?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

There's no scam. Trump is bringing unprecedented prosperity to the US and to the world. Why don't you climb aboard and stop trolling?

Then no matter that the investigation continues.

 

[Mashmont]

Then no matter that the investigation continues.

You mean the 166th 'investigation' of Trump? Pfft. Dismissed like the others.

Guy, it's time to grow up. Take leave of the loonies and join the people making things happen. The left has zero to offer you.

 

[Hollie]

‘Trump’s deal with China follows a familiar script. Trump imposed preposterously high tariffs on China of 145 percent, effectively a boycott. China retaliated by imposing its own tariffs of 125 percent and blocking exports of critical materials such as rare earths that America needs.

Predictably, the damage was expected to be massive. So Trump needed an escape hatch. Once again, his administration has “suspended” the exorbitant tariffs, lowering them to 30 percent—the same range as the current tariffs of 25 percent on much of China’s exports. The Chinese reciprocated by cutting tariffs on U.S. exports to 10 percent.

The “suspension” of the higher tariffs will be in place for 90 days, while a joint working group addresses more fundamental issues. This will not solve the immediate looming shortage of Chinese imports that has been building for over a month, and even 30 percent is a stiff tariff. But more fundamentally, the deeper issues dividing the U.S. from China will not be solved in 90 days, if ever, and today China has the upper hand.
[…]
So Trump’s adventure in creating a de facto boycott of China, and then his pullback, leaves the U.S.-China relationship exactly where it was, with no progress toward the deeper issues. If anything, China has a lot more leverage on the U.S. than vice versa, and is more astute about using it.’

Trump’s China Charade

Today on TAP: It’s the usual script—create a crisis, then back off and claim victory.

prospect.org

Of course, Trump and his defenders will continue to lie about the ‘deal’ being ‘successful.’

Of course, Ms. Jones wants China to have the upper hand. However, Ms. Jones, it was Trump playing hardball that caused the Chinese to blink and enter negotiations.

 

[Hollie]

Then no matter that the investigation continues.

Tell us the scope of your investigation as you go on the warpath, little Johnny slow thoughts.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

It's not my investigation.

 

[jknowgood]

No, it's been explained many times before. You sound like a four-year-old who does not like an answer he knows he can't get over.

Come on, just one thing that proves Trump is a fascist. One thing off the top of my head about Biden being a fascist. He required healthcare workers and the military get the vaccine or lose their jobs. He put hundreds of thousands out of work. That's fascism.