China Imposes 34% Tariff on U.S. Goods

[Kruska]

China is experiencing a net loss in foreign investment, Kruska. Up until 2020 they were seeing massive investment but now that investment is going elsewhere. The writing was on the wall LONG before Trump started talking about tariffs! If Vietnam reaches an agreement with the US? Where do you think investment money will be flowing to? Trump understands the game.

First you stated that China's economy is built upon exports to the US - I showed that your argument is false resp. totally outdated.

Now you come up with foreign investment.
I guess that you never heard of COVID and it's negative effects, resulting onto a slowing, even decreasing WORLD economy.

FYI, the total decline of Foreign Investment GLOBALLY from 2019 - 2023 was -35% and it's still decreasing.

Furthermore you got no clue as to how China reports and conducts "foreign invest" since it has become practice in China since 2020 to finance foreign investors (see Tesla) via DOMESTIC credits. aka Tesla's 3.4 Billion investment credit is not validated as a foreign invest, only the HK bank's investment share with 0.6 Billion.

Therefore the CPC has forwarded an "economic stimulus package", worth US$ 5.7 Trillion into it's DOMESTIC market.

Whilst the US economy has transferred foreign investment worth US$ 5.4 Trillion in 2023 - out of which 3.5 trillion went to the EU and 0.7 Trillion went to Canada.
The very market places the Idiot in Chief is now hammering with tariffs

Direct Investment by Country and Industry | U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA)

www.bea.gov

But do tell me - how much of Vietnam's economy is based onto investments from China??
The top foreign investors in Vietnam till 2023 were S-Korea, Japan and Singapore followed by China.
FYI - China incl. HK, since 2024 became the #2 foreign investor after Singapore.

The surge in Chinese FDI in Vietnam can be attributed to two key factors. First, the ongoing trade war between the US and China and US tariff barriers imposed on various Chinese goods have prompted Chinese companies to relocate part of their manufacturing operations to other countries, including Vietnam, in order to bypass these barriers. This trend is most evident in the solar panel industry, where five out of the seven largest producers in Vietnam are Chinese-owned.

 

[Captain Caveman]

China has a nearly $1T trade surplus with the U.S when calculated honestly.

They don't buy American Made goods, in fact, their government actively promote to NOT buy foreign goods but to buy Chinese goods.

America has been getting fleeced for decades. Trump and his team have said "no more". The consumer market will always have the upper hand in such economic rebalancing.

China could apply a 500% tariffs. 500% of 0 is still 0.

The market dictates because Americans want to buy goods based on price, hence the imports of China junk. It's America's fault for not controlling the imports from China. Why wasn't there sufficient tariffs in place decades ago?

 

[otto105]

Declining imports and stagnant domestic consumption

A deflating real estate market and banking sector verging on bankruptcy

A 1.4 birthrate

Imbalanced male to female demographic

Too many boys and not enough girls

Literally millions of college grads who are delivering ramyan noodles to support themselves

For years now conservatives have been predicting economic collapse in China.

 

[Mac-7]

For years now conservatives have been predicting economic collapse in China.

Wrong

Until recent years the only republican not buying into the myth of chicom invincibility was donald trump

And me

Now many conservatives see through the globalist lies

 

[Mac-7]

how much of Vietnam's economy is based onto investments from China??
The top foreign investors in Vietnam till 2023 were S-Korea, Japan and Singapore followed by China.

That is true

But tariffs can still target chinese companies operating in Vietnam

 

[Kruska]

But tariffs can still target chinese companies operating in Vietnam

No, in regards to TARIFFS you can't, respectively Trump/USA would lose any court case filed at the WTO

One can only target COUNTRIES via tariffs - but not an e.g. individual Chinese manufacturer in Vietnam, or a Canadian manufacturer in the USA.

However the US government is free to "sanction/ban" any company (incl. a US company), it deems e.g. a danger to national security - see Tik-Tok, Huawei, etc. etc.

Or especially for MAGA's, a Chinese sock producer in Vietnam. The latter might appeal to a US court or even the WTO.

 

[22lcidw]

No, in regards to TARIFFS you can't, respectively Trump/USA would lose any court case filed at the WTO

One can only target COUNTRIES via tariffs - but not an e.g. individual Chinese manufacturer in Vietnam, or a Canadian manufacturer in the USA.

However the US government is free to "sanction/ban" any company (incl. a US company), it deems e.g. a danger to national security - see Tik-Tok, Huawei, etc. etc.

Or especially for MAGA's, a Chinese sock producer in Vietnam. The latter might appeal to a US court or even the WTO.

In this trade, are there middlemen involved? Taking a good cut and helping the price to be higher for what we pay. If so, they may take less also. Perhaps eliminated.

 

[Unkotare]

If we hold firm, China will blink first.

 

[otto105]

If we hold firm, China will blink first.

Why?

They want Taiwan and this Shitler! economic plan helps that.

 

[Kruska]

In this trade, are there middlemen involved? Taking a good cut and helping the price to be higher for what we pay. If so, they may take less also. Perhaps eliminated.

An "agent" will the one who imports to e.g. the USA from a producer in China - so the US agent has to come up with the extra tariff aka import tax - and he will pass all of it or some of it on, so the product will still be more expensive for the US customer then before.

A "middleman" gets a commission on a DONE deal, so he will be happy, since his commission sum will increase. Even if he should reduce his commission to get a deal done, the product will still be more expensive then before.

 

[Muhammed]

Of course we have been getting fleeced! It was asked for, in order to use their workforce for pennies on the U.S. dollar.

Now we are going to change this dynamic with no alternative in mind, no infrastructure, no trained workforce, in order to appease the whims of one man who has no idea what he is doing.

Sounds like a great plan, don't it?

Trump knows a hell of a lot more about his plan (which is decades in the making), than you do, TDS afflicted moron.

You just think you know everything about it, but you actually know zilch.

You just automatically think his plan is bad due to your severe mental illness which makes you stupider by the day.

If Trump spoke out against beastiality you would pleasure a dog.

 

[AsherN]

the tariffs will end once countries come to the table and make a better deal .. in 3 months it will be over and the US will have better trade deals .. Trumps style is to shoot for the moon and then settle somewhere in the middle ..

Canada and Mexico had a deal. Negotiated and signed by Trump. The US can't be trusted with any deal they make.

 

[odanny]

Trump knows a hell of a lot more about his plan (which is decades in the making), than you do, TDS afflicted moron.

You just think you know everything about it, but you actually know zilch.

You just automatically think his plan is bad due to your severe mental illness which makes you stupider by the day.

OK, even if true, (of course it isn't) I am not taking your word for it. Why would I put my trust in you when you are so often wrong?

 

[Muhammed]

OK, even if true, (of course it isn't) I am not taking your word for it. Why would I put my trust in you when you are so often wrong?

I challenge you to cite the post where I was allegedly wrong use a factual rational reasoned argument proving me wrong.

Why don't you just educate yourself?

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[Cellblock2429]

Because OBVIOUSLY - Americans are very, very interested in a good bargain

Bullshit - only happened upon Trump 01. And till then Apple was the #1 and the consumers favorite.

Thanks to your CAPITALISTIC oriented economy (the American dream) and simply because US labor costs are even presently still 3 times higher then those of China. - And the consumer will buy - for whatever he feels getting the better bargain.

Plain Stupid, 0 means US$ 150 billion less.

China's governmnet or it's consumers buy's from the USA - whatever they "need", or simply gives them an advantage - e.g. Nuke Plants from Honeywell.

1. Your cars are crap
2. Your motorbikes are crap - you don't even have e-scooters and e-bikes.
3. Boeing isn't better the Airbus - whilst Airbus is even cheaper.
4. Your Brand-names for e.g. Textiles or Fast-food and Beverages are ALL not made in the USA.
5. What makes you think that Apple or Dell would still be better then Huawei, or Samsung or Taiwan's Asus? - not even to mention the huge price gap.
6. Your wines also ain't better then Chinese or European wines - and PRC Chinese simply don't like e.g. Whiskey.

So aside from "cheap" agricultural goods - what does the USA have?????
This is what ALL Americans should ask themselves and especially their Idiot in Chief.

I had already mentioned in another thread - even if US cars would face no tariff - no one wants or needs them in Germany or anywhere else.

BTW - why is the US placing an import tariff for non-US made Pick-ups, Mini-buses and Vans of 25%???
don't tell me they use tariffs to protect their industries - that's not possible right?

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[odanny]

I challenge you to cite the post where I was allegedly wrong use a factual rational reasoned argument proving me wrong.

It's your entire posting history to me, I don't know what you tell others.

 

[odanny]

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Wow, a tweet that says tariffs are great by fuck knows who.

Most likely someone who works for Trump.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Wow, a tweet that says tariffs are great by fuck knows who.

Most likely someone who works for Trump.

/----/ Wow, a post that thinks tariffs are great when imposed on the USA by most likely someone who works for George Sortos.

 

[odanny]

/----/ Wow, a post that thinks tariffs are great when imposed on the USA by most likely someone who works for George Sortos.

....sigh.... the stoopid, is there no cure?

 

[Cellblock2429]

....sigh.... the stoopid, is there no cure?

/---/ Yes. I'm using your stoopid logic against you.