Trump's 4% GDP growth promise update

[Correll]

I want all of them deported from the worst ms13 murderer, ('after he served his time) to the cutest little Dreamer brought here by his or her law breaking mother.
YOU are the one that has just admitted that you don't want to deport the vast majority of illegals.

Thank you for just admitting that the vast majority of asylum seekers ARE hard working families.

And like Tramp you don't want MS13 deported because like you just admitted the vast majority of illegals are hard working families and that undercuts the Trump lie that they are sending their worst, so you must get rid of the good hard working ones first to make them all look bad. Then you can justify keeping hard working brown people out for lack of "merit" as your rationalization.

I just said all. Why are you immediately lying about what I said?

No I'm proving you lied when you said "all," since you didn't have a shit fit that after an extensive investigation for what was the largest immigration sting of its kind in more than a decade ICE could not find even one MS13 out of 680 to deport!

I don't know, nor care about the details of this particular operation.

I want them all deported.

You've admitted that you do not want the vast majority deported. Thus you do NOT want immigration law enforced, and any distinction you draw between your position and being in favor of an open border, is bullshit.

 

[Correll]

Your position was that anyone who was wrong about something, and stated it out lout is a liar.

No, my position is and has always been, anyone who tells lies is a liar. The fact that you have to pervert my position and call me silly proves in spite of everything you say to the contrary you know I am correct. I also clarified it for you when added the Reagan Rationalization for lying of intent by explaining that intent shows premeditation and lack of intent shows STUPIDITY. If you STUPIDLY tell a lie, then you told a lie and are nothing more than a gossip too lazy to confirm the accuracy of what you say.

Plenty of people are wrong about stuff all the time, without being stupid. INdeed, brilliant people, can still be wrong about shit.


These are very simple concepts that normal healthy people learn as children. Small children.

They are STUPID, like you, if they are too lazy to find out if they are right or wrong before they open their big mouth and spread their "wrongness" to gullible minds.

Your pretzel logic continues because you cannot admit that your demonization of Trump is based on bullshit and lies.



Lying requires intent.


Without intent it is not a lie.


If someone is joking, it is not a lie.

If someone is using hyperbole, it is not a lie.


If someone is honestly mistaken it is not a lie.


YOu are the one being crazy here, because of partisan bile.

And republican alternative truth shows what garbage Dems must deal with

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.


You will not normally find that, from the Right, and certainly not from me.


He has gone so far, as to pretend that being wrong, is not only lying, but proof of being stupid and lazy.


AND when I called him on that, he pretended that I was claiming that being wrong, meant that someone was "brilliant".


He is lost to a partisan madness, all because he NEEDS to hold Trump as a liar as many times as possible. He can't let go of ANY statement, as an excuse to attack and hatemonger.

 

[Correll]

Your position was that anyone who was wrong about something, and stated it out lout is a liar.

No, my position is and has always been, anyone who tells lies is a liar. The fact that you have to pervert my position and call me silly proves in spite of everything you say to the contrary you know I am correct. I also clarified it for you when added the Reagan Rationalization for lying of intent by explaining that intent shows premeditation and lack of intent shows STUPIDITY. If you STUPIDLY tell a lie, then you told a lie and are nothing more than a gossip too lazy to confirm the accuracy of what you say.

Plenty of people are wrong about stuff all the time, without being stupid. INdeed, brilliant people, can still be wrong about shit.


These are very simple concepts that normal healthy people learn as children. Small children.

They are STUPID, like you, if they are too lazy to find out if they are right or wrong before they open their big mouth and spread their "wrongness" to gullible minds.

Your pretzel logic continues because you cannot admit that your demonization of Trump is based on bullshit and lies.



Lying requires intent.


Without intent it is not a lie.


If someone is joking, it is not a lie.

If someone is using hyperbole, it is not a lie.


If someone is honestly mistaken it is not a lie.


YOu are the one being crazy here, because of partisan bile.

I love your silly "a lie is not a lie if...." crap.

It is not mine. It is the English language's.


Your TDS has driven you to absurd lengths.

 

[Correll]

Your position was that anyone who was wrong about something, and stated it out lout is a liar.

No, my position is and has always been, anyone who tells lies is a liar. The fact that you have to pervert my position and call me silly proves in spite of everything you say to the contrary you know I am correct. I also clarified it for you when added the Reagan Rationalization for lying of intent by explaining that intent shows premeditation and lack of intent shows STUPIDITY. If you STUPIDLY tell a lie, then you told a lie and are nothing more than a gossip too lazy to confirm the accuracy of what you say.

Plenty of people are wrong about stuff all the time, without being stupid. INdeed, brilliant people, can still be wrong about shit.


These are very simple concepts that normal healthy people learn as children. Small children.

They are STUPID, like you, if they are too lazy to find out if they are right or wrong before they open their big mouth and spread their "wrongness" to gullible minds.

Lying requires intent.

Without intent it is not a lie.

That's not true. Pathological liars often lie for no apparent reason. Often, with no intent to deceive but because they're sociopaths.

They might not have a real motive, but they still the intent to deceive.

Note that intent does not require a REASON.

 

[edthecynic]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

 

[edthecynic]

He has gone so far, as to pretend that being wrong, is not only lying, but proof of being stupid and lazy.

Another perfect example of a liar telling a lie. ^
I said someone who tells a lie not knowing it is a lie is a STUPID gossip, too lazy to make sure they are not telling a lie when they speak.

 

[Correll]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

You've said a lot. Quite a bit of it, quite crazy.

 

[Correll]

He has gone so far, as to pretend that being wrong, is not only lying, but proof of being stupid and lazy.

Another perfect example of a liar telling a lie. ^
I said someone who tells a lie not knowing it is a lie is a STUPID gossip, too lazy to make sure they are not telling a lie when they speak.

So, you're claiming that I am lying, because of what I said, and then you state that those that we are talking about are "telling a lie", and "stupid" and "lazy".


Which is exactly what I just said that you said.


YOu are making yourself crazy, because you can see that you are wrong, but you cant' give up the slightest inch, to Trump and/or a Trump supporter.

 

[edthecynic]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

You've said a lot. Quite a bit of it, quite crazy.

It is only "crazy" after you change my words.

 

[edthecynic]

He has gone so far, as to pretend that being wrong, is not only lying, but proof of being stupid and lazy.

Another perfect example of a liar telling a lie. ^
I said someone who tells a lie not knowing it is a lie is a STUPID gossip, too lazy to make sure they are not telling a lie when they speak.

So, you're claiming that I am lying, because of what I said, and then you state that those that we are talking about are "telling a lie", and "stupid" and "lazy".


Which is exactly what I just said that you said.


YOu are making yourself crazy, because you can see that you are wrong, but you cant' give up the slightest inch, to Trump and/or a Trump supporter.

Just more lies. I'm talking about people who tell lies and you change that to people being wrong. They may be wrong for telling lies, but they are still telling lies.

 

[Correll]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

You've said a lot. Quite a bit of it, quite crazy.

It is only "crazy" after you change my words.

No, the meaning of both statements is pretty much the same. You just can't see it with your statement, because of your perceptions are twisted by your hate and rage.

 

[Correll]

He has gone so far, as to pretend that being wrong, is not only lying, but proof of being stupid and lazy.

Another perfect example of a liar telling a lie. ^
I said someone who tells a lie not knowing it is a lie is a STUPID gossip, too lazy to make sure they are not telling a lie when they speak.

So, you're claiming that I am lying, because of what I said, and then you state that those that we are talking about are "telling a lie", and "stupid" and "lazy".


Which is exactly what I just said that you said.


YOu are making yourself crazy, because you can see that you are wrong, but you cant' give up the slightest inch, to Trump and/or a Trump supporter.

Just more lies. I'm talking about people who tell lies and you change that to people being wrong. They may be wrong for telling lies, but they are still telling lies.

What you just said there, is exactly what I was accusing you of saying.



We agree what your position is.


It is just that when you say it, you think it makes sense, but when I say it, you think that it does not make sense.


THe reason is, is that when you say it, you are saying it to defend your attacks on Trump.


So,... My God, you are being bat shit crazy.


People who are wrong, and state their error, are not lying. They are honestly mistaken. It is a mistake on their part, NOT A LIE.


You are consumed with hate. It is making you crazy.

 

[edthecynic]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

You've said a lot. Quite a bit of it, quite crazy.

It is only "crazy" after you change my words.

No, the meaning of both statements is pretty much the same. You just can't see it with your statement, because of your perceptions are twisted by your hate and rage.

There is a funny commercial about how worthless "pretty much" is.

 

[edthecynic]

We agree what your position is.

Now that is a lie. Not a joke, not hyperbole, not a mistake, and not just wrong, but a premeditated intended lie.
On that we both agree!

 

[Correll]

The man you just defended, is arguing that anyone who says something not literally true, is lying, with no allowance made for jokes, hyperbole, or even being honestly mistaken.

A perfect example of a LIAR. ^
I said anyone who TELLS LIES is a liar.

I have always noticed that people will never laugh at anything that is not based on truth.
Will Rogers

You've said a lot. Quite a bit of it, quite crazy.

It is only "crazy" after you change my words.

No, the meaning of both statements is pretty much the same. You just can't see it with your statement, because of your perceptions are twisted by your hate and rage.

There is a funny commercial about how worthless "pretty much" is.

That's nice.

The fact remains. I did not misrepresent your meaning. It only seems that way, because you see your own statements in teh context of defending your attacks on Trump,

and mine as outside of that.


So, you judge them with different standards.


ANd when I say it, you can see that it is bat shit crazy.


And when you say it, as a defense of your attacks on Trump, it looks sane to you.



You are consumed in hatred and rage, and it is making you completely crazy.

 

[Correll]

We agree what your position is.

Now that is a lie. Not a joke, not hyperbole, not a mistake, and not just wrong, but a premeditated intended lie.
On that we both agree!

I said it. YOu denied what I said, and then restated your position, and it was just what I had said.


You are being sooo completely crazy.


If you can admit it, that would be very healthy for you.


I'm not going to gloat. You got overly riled up, and said some crazy shit. YOu can just say that you will try to watch that in the future and we move on.

 

[caddo kid]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

Trump promises a lot but Trump never delivers.

Trump promised a 3% to 4% GDP, with the prospects for 5% & 6%. Those are some lofty promises.

Trump has FAILED to deliver even a 2.7% annual average GDP during his tenure.

Lying is easy. What can be said for those people that believe Trump's lies?

LOFL

 

[caddo kid]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

Here is Trumps average quarterly real GDP growth rate to date compared to other Presidents:

01. John F. Kennedy: 5.31%
02. Lyndon Johnson: 5.18%
03. Harry Truman: 4.87%
04. Bill Clinton: 3.82%
05. Ronald Reagan: 3.62%
06. Jimmy Carter: 3.32%
07. Richard Nixon: 3.06%
08. Dwight D. Eisenhower 2.65%
09. Donald Trump: 2.64%
10. Gerald Ford: 2.28%
11. George H.W. Bush: 2.24%
12. Barack Obama: 1.90%
13. George W. Bush: 1.87%

So at 2.64%, he is well below is 4% goal.

Those are good FACTS you posted; not fake news.

Once it's all said & done the annual average GDP for Trump's tenure will likely be around 2.0% which would be nearly the same as Obama.

 

[sealybobo]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

The New York Federal Reserve's GDP growth forecasting model was downgraded on Friday to 1.3% for the fourth quarter, compared with an earlier forecast of 1.8%.

 

[edward37]

Donald Trump promised 4.0% GDP growth a year.

Updated - Trump-O-Meter: Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

In 2018, he fell short with 3.2% growth.

It's still early in 2019, so all we have is estimates of first quarter growth. In order for the economy to stay on track to 4% growth, Q1 must be at least /approximately 4%.


So far things don't look good at all. Economist Diane Swonk said yesterday that Q1 growth could be 1.5%:

GDP growth for the first quarter could slip below 1-1/2% if shutdown endures through the end of the week.

Diane Swonk on Twitter

It looks like Trump wildly exaggerated the results he could achieve.

The New York Federal Reserve's GDP growth forecasting model was downgraded on Friday to 1.3% for the fourth quarter, compared with an earlier forecast of 1.8%.

Our budget deficit grew to 900+++ billion after trump AH said he's eliminate it