Trump Wins YUGE in a Government Shutdown

[Old Rocks]

For all you useful idiots out there hoping for a shutdown, you know that the military has to keep working but does not get paid till it is over. This is not a situation that most of our junior troops find helpful, paying bills and buying food is important.

Should stop SS, and all money for the Reps, Senators, and various government officials as well.

 

[Political Junky]

Not even repubs in congress want to finance Trump's wall.

 

[danielpalos]

All it will do is demonstrate that the Republican Party is incapable of governing.

Like they were "incapable" of winning the White house, Senate majority, House majority?
Your 'flop-sweat' isn't becoming dear.

lol. dudes, Your guy won, with "nothing but pander".

 

[Dragonlady]

Congress has devolved into an utter joke of a branch.

Have to wonder when they will dispense with the theatrics and go back to being a functional branch of government or, better question, when will the voters force them to do so.

Many members have safe gerrymandered seats, so until gerrymandering is reversed, there is no way for the voters to force them to change their ways.

 

[rightwinger]

Not even repubs in congress want to finance Trump's wall.

Trump does not have the votes for the wall

Why isn't he working harder to get Mexico to pay for it?

 

[Old Rocks]

The 'Great Wall' appealed to the very dumbest of the idiotic 'Conservatives'. At present about 40% of illegal immigration comes in on airplanes. What is the clown going to do, order a travel ban on the world outside of the US borders? Perhaps that should not be put into writing as he is stupid enough do something like that.

 

[danielpalos]

Congress was all set to pass a Continuing Resolution before going on a break

Trump decided to screw it up by throwing in poison pills like The Great Wall of Trump, defunding healthcare support, passing tax cuts

You mean to make them do their job? Oh my.

Paying for a stupid wall that Trump said Mexico would pay for is not their job.

The wall will be built, get over it. Congress needs to give the go ahead to build it.

we need a wall tax.

 

[rightwinger]

The Great Wall of Trump does not have the support of either party or of the voters

A President with 40% approval does not have the clout with the people to shut down the Government for an unpopular project

 

[Fueri]

Congress has devolved into an utter joke of a branch.

Have to wonder when they will dispense with the theatrics and go back to being a functional branch of government or, better question, when will the voters force them to do so.

When the Dems take back the House, until then the House will remain dysfunctional and a joke.

It's broken due to lack of any ability to reach a reasonable compromise on pretty much anything. That doesn't change with a shift in who has the majority.

Both sides are playing the game and both sides' constituencies are supporting their respective parties' hard line positions. The result is that the congress has reached a point of perpetual dysfunctionality.

 

[ptbw forever]

We'll see how he & Congress fair from a shut down.

He will do just fine!

He and the GOP will get their asses kicked. They have the House, the Senate, and the Executive. And yet they are going to shut the government down over an internal squabble. This will not be forgotten in 2018 and 2020. The orange clown is setting himself up for the 25th amendment or impeachment.

You just keep thinking that....

 

[Dragonlady]

The 'Great Wall' appealed to the very dumbest of the idiotic 'Conservatives'. At present about 40% of illegal immigration comes in on airplanes. What is the clown going to do, order a travel ban on the world outside of the US borders? Perhaps that should not be put into writing as he is stupid enough do something like that.

He's already doing it. I live 30 miles from the Canada/US border, where cross border shopping is a way of life. Many of my friends are reporting they are being turned away from entering the US for no apparent reason. A number of my friends are cancelling planned trips as a result. These are people who cross the border regularly, and have no reason to expect to be turned away. They're even white Christians, so the idea that it was skin colour or religion is completely false.

People around the world are having similar reactions, as tourist bookings are way down in the US this year. Electronic communications, SKYE, and other means of video conferencing are making saying home easier than ever for business, and why go to the US and risk being turned away and ruining your vacation, when the rest of the world is available.

This is the law of unintended consequences. Business, retail, and tourism will pay the price for Trump's Muslim ban.

 

[rightwinger]

Will Trump play golf during the shutdown?

 

[Fueri]

Congress has devolved into an utter joke of a branch.

Have to wonder when they will dispense with the theatrics and go back to being a functional branch of government or, better question, when will the voters force them to do so.

Many members have safe gerrymandered seats, so until gerrymandering is reversed, there is no way for the voters to force them to change their ways.

no doubt that is a problem. I'm a supporter of term limits for similar reasons. Too many entrenched career politicians.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

For all you useful idiots out there hoping for a shutdown, you know that the military has to keep working but does not get paid till it is over. This is not a situation that most of our junior troops find helpful, paying bills and buying food is important.

Should stop SS, and all money for the Reps, Senators, and various government officials as well.

No way congress is going to not pay themselves. They were smart enough to not make their salary part of annual appropriations, but a separate law stating what they get paid. I do not know about people like the Secretaries of each dept, but I bet they get paid as well.
Meanwhile those that can least afford to miss a payday will get hosed. All so people can play their stupid partisan games and be able to score points on forums like this

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Will Trump play golf during the shutdown?

Trump golfs during everything, why would this be any different.

Heck I havent even played golf 14 times since Jan 20th and I do not have a country to run

 

[danielpalos]

The 'Great Wall' appealed to the very dumbest of the idiotic 'Conservatives'. At present about 40% of illegal immigration comes in on airplanes. What is the clown going to do, order a travel ban on the world outside of the US borders? Perhaps that should not be put into writing as he is stupid enough do something like that.

He's already doing it. I live 30 miles from the Canada/US border, where cross border shopping is a way of life. Many of my friends are reporting they are being turned away from entering the US for no apparent reason. A number of my friends are cancelling planned trips as a result. These are people who cross the border regularly, and have no reason to expect to be turned away. They're even white Christians, so the idea that it was skin colour or religion is completely false.

People around the world are having similar reactions, as tourist bookings are way down in the US this year. Electronic communications, SKYE, and other means of video conferencing are making saying home easier than ever for business, and why go to the US and risk being turned away and ruining your vacation, when the rest of the world is available.

This is the law of unintended consequences. Business, retail, and tourism will pay the price for Trump's Muslim ban.

Tourism plays a large part of the economy of many States in the US.

 

[danielpalos]

Will Trump play golf during the shutdown?

sure, it will be, "slow".

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Given the public's low opinion of politicians, I don't think this stuff really matters.

All it does is confirm our opinion. Again.
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I'm inclined to agree but the GOP has control. If there's a shut down they own it.

 

[Crixus]

No need to worry folks. It's all good.

Trump Wins YUGE in a Government Shutdown

We’re looking at a possible government shutdown next Saturday, and that’s got some conservatives nervous. They shouldn’t be. Admittedly, past government shutdowns — or threats of shutdowns — have worked against conservatives. With Trump, however, it would likely be a different story....

even a partial shutdown plays precisely into the Trump agenda and his campaign promises of draining the swamp. Trump’s base, as well as “swing voters” who are fed up with out of control spending, would, of course, be cheered by such a move. Moreover, such a shutdown plays into Trump’s hands by giving him every excuse to slash funding to “sanctuary cities,” to bloated university programs, to global warming science grants, and on and on. Social Security checks will continue, the military will be funded, and necessary services will hum along while grants to study the sex life of the fruit bat will not. Deep State bureaucrats who so depend on the federal government for their very existence would be the ones most hurt. In short, Trump can not only make even a partial shutdown look like the Democrats’ fault but shield many of the (normally) loudest voices from the pain.

More important, every minute the bloated government is shut down reinforces the perception of Trump as a businessman who cuts the fat, extracts more efficiency, and makes the U.S. government more like a business. Unlike the Clinton/Gingrich shutdown battle, the control over what sectors of the government get their money is in the hands of a Republican president, not a Democrat who held up funds on the most visible and sympathetic programs. Trump would relish starving all the non-essential offices like PBS and NPR or global-warming science grants.​

Bring it. No big deal at all.

 

[Norman]

No need to worry folks. It's all good.

Trump Wins YUGE in a Government Shutdown

We’re looking at a possible government shutdown next Saturday, and that’s got some conservatives nervous. They shouldn’t be. Admittedly, past government shutdowns — or threats of shutdowns — have worked against conservatives. With Trump, however, it would likely be a different story....

even a partial shutdown plays precisely into the Trump agenda and his campaign promises of draining the swamp. Trump’s base, as well as “swing voters” who are fed up with out of control spending, would, of course, be cheered by such a move. Moreover, such a shutdown plays into Trump’s hands by giving him every excuse to slash funding to “sanctuary cities,” to bloated university programs, to global warming science grants, and on and on. Social Security checks will continue, the military will be funded, and necessary services will hum along while grants to study the sex life of the fruit bat will not. Deep State bureaucrats who so depend on the federal government for their very existence would be the ones most hurt. In short, Trump can not only make even a partial shutdown look like the Democrats’ fault but shield many of the (normally) loudest voices from the pain.

More important, every minute the bloated government is shut down reinforces the perception of Trump as a businessman who cuts the fat, extracts more efficiency, and makes the U.S. government more like a business. Unlike the Clinton/Gingrich shutdown battle, the control over what sectors of the government get their money is in the hands of a Republican president, not a Democrat who held up funds on the most visible and sympathetic programs. Trump would relish starving all the non-essential offices like PBS and NPR or global-warming science grants.​

Government shut down = Having more, while saving money. Of course it will end well...

Think about it, not only do you NOT have to listen to some hard leftist force feed his/her delusion about how there is no such thing as gender... you won't have to pay for it either.

The win will be downright Yuge.