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There is rumor of a Trump "peace plan" which does little more that guarantee that Russia will continue to eliminate the last of Ukrainian resistance.

At this point it's hard to tell if Trumps is worse for Epstein victims or young Ukranian men.

In the first term, I naively believed that Republican politicians prevented Trump from rolling back the Progressive Jihad on America. At the start of the second term, after surviving the Butler "assassination attempt" I thought he was going to drain the swamp this time. I've come to the conclusion that Trump is a really good Kabuki Theater actor, pretending to be standing up for Americans and fighting to drain the swamp. He is the Swamp. He could end this in a day, but he keeps pretending to be flailing

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"High Noon In Kiev

The ‘new’ Trump plan to end the war in Ukraine, mentioned here yesterday, is unlikely to come to fruition.

Russia has said that it does not have any official knowledge of the plan or its content. But there are several reasons for it to reject it.

The Telegraph claims that the plan does not acknowledge that the Donbas and Luhansk are part of Russia but only allows for Russia to ‘lease’ the territory:

The Trump administration deal would see Kyiv cede control of the eastern Donbas region, but maintain legal ownership. Russia would pay an undisclosed rental fee for de facto control of the region, officials familiar with the deal told The Telegraph.

There is also the role of NATO which the Trump administration’s plan does not mention:

As European and U.S. officials alike sought clarity, they said many aspects of the plan remained in flux, including the role of NATO and any Ukrainian territorial concessions to Russia.

One aspect U.S. officials are still pondering is whether and how to mention NATO, the person said. The discussion of NATO has not been previously reported.

Ukraine has sought NATO membership as a security guarantee against a future Russian invasion. While some European countries support that, the U.S. has rejected it and Moscow has long demanded Kyiv not join the defensive alliance, viewing that as a threat. The European allies also worry about granting Russia territorial concessions, which they see as rewarding Moscow’s aggression and setting a concerning precedent."

Moon of Alabama – And must have whiskey – Oh, you know why
 
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There is rumor of a Trump "peace plan" which does little more that guarantee that Russia will continue to eliminate the last of Ukrainian resistance.

At this point it's hard to tell if Trumps is worse for Epstein victims or young Ukranian men.

In the first term, I naively believed that Republican politicians prevented Trump from rolling back the Progressive Jihad on America. At the start of the second term, after surviving the Butler "assassination attempt" I thought he was going to drain the swamp this time. I've come to the conclusion that Trump is a really good Kabuki Theater actor, pretending to be standing up for Americans and fighting to drain the swamp. He is the Swamp. He could end this in a day, but he keeps pretending to be flailing

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"High Noon In Kiev

The ‘new’ Trump plan to end the war in Ukraine, mentioned here yesterday, is unlikely to come to fruition.

Russia has said that it does not have any official knowledge of the plan or its content. But there are several reasons for it to reject it.

The Telegraph claims that the plan does not acknowledge that the Donbas and Luhansk are part of Russia but only allows for Russia to ‘lease’ the territory:

The Trump administration deal would see Kyiv cede control of the eastern Donbas region, but maintain legal ownership. Russia would pay an undisclosed rental fee for de facto control of the region, officials familiar with the deal told The Telegraph.

There is also the role of NATO which the Trump administration’s plan does not mention:

As European and U.S. officials alike sought clarity, they said many aspects of the plan remained in flux, including the role of NATO and any Ukrainian territorial concessions to Russia.

One aspect U.S. officials are still pondering is whether and how to mention NATO, the person said. The discussion of NATO has not been previously reported.

Ukraine has sought NATO membership as a security guarantee against a future Russian invasion. While some European countries support that, the U.S. has rejected it and Moscow has long demanded Kyiv not join the defensive alliance, viewing that as a threat. The European allies also worry about granting Russia territorial concessions, which they see as rewarding Moscow’s aggression and setting a concerning precedent."

Moon of Alabama – And must have whiskey – Oh, you know why
You are citing a blog. They have no idea what Trump's plan is because it is always a work in progress. Nothing has been decided, in case you hadn't noticed. Put your conspiracy theory daydreams away Frank! They are boring as hell!
 
This entire tragedy was avoidable if the West had bothered to treat Russia’s security concerns as legitimate.

Instead, blinded by arrogance and the delusion that Russia was too weak to matter, they tried ramming NATO expansion down Moscow’s throat and this is the mess they created.

It’s going to be a bitter dose of reality when it sinks in that Russia has come out on top.
Good luck to the Western political class trying to spin this humiliation to their own citizens.

Although, what am I talking about? Western audiences will swallow any crap from TV and ask for more.

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This entire tragedy was avoidable if the West had bothered to treat Russia’s security concerns as legitimate.

Instead, blinded by arrogance and the delusion that Russia was too weak to matter, they tried ramming NATO expansion down Moscow’s throat and this is the mess they created.

It’s going to be a bitter dose of reality when it sinks in that Russia has come out on top.
Good luck to the Western political class trying to spin this humiliation to their own citizens.

Although, what am I talking about? Western audiences will swallow any crap from TV and ask for more.

G6MBUuyX0AAialo
So you are saying that Biden was incompetent!!! Well no argument there.

Greg
 
The Trump administration deal would see Kyiv cede control of the eastern Donbas region, but maintain legal ownership. Russia would pay an undisclosed rental fee for de facto control of the region, officials familiar with the deal told The Telegraph.
The problem with that is that Donbas seceded from Ukraine and joined the Russian Federation.

Why the hell should Ukraine own it?
 
The problem with that is that Donbas seceded from Ukraine and joined the Russian Federation.

Why the hell should Ukraine own it?
Better question why would Trump propose this knowing it’s a nonstarter
 
You are citing a blog. They have no idea what Trump's plan is because it is always a work in progress. Nothing has been decided, in case you hadn't noticed. Put your conspiracy theory daydreams away Frank! They are boring as hell!

Can I quote you on that?
 
Can I quote you on that?
Trump’s “peace plan” mirrors Reagan’s: use oil, not bullets.
 
There are at least seven cities which are falling or are destined to fall within the next few month


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There is at least one empire which is falling or is destined to fall within the next few month, Remember, the Bolshevik 's imperial economy collapsed when oil prices fell to $15-23 a barrel, and the Moscow empire's budget is unsustainable below $42.4.

and It finally happened, 🇷🇺 Urals is trading at 36-37-38 dollars per Barrel ;)

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There is at least one empire which is falling or is destined to fall within the next few month, Remember, the Bolshevik 's imperial economy collapsed when oil prices fell to $15-23 a barrel, and the Moscow empire's budget is unsustainable below $42.4.

and It finally happened, 🇷🇺 Urals is trading at 36-37-38 dollars per Barrel ;)

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when will you move to commie han- 🇨🇳 China ?

 
when will you move to commie han- 🇨🇳 China ?



That's the difference between Reagan's era and today
 
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