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Trump Wanted So Stay In Office. Long Live Trump.
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Former US President Donald Trump was surprised by supporters’ fervent loyalty toward him and sometimes derisive, The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman has said.
The former Amerian leader once called his fans “fucking crazy,” Haberman wrote in The Atlantic, while describing three post-presidency interviews she held with Trump in the run-up to the release of a book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America.”
When the two spoke of the January 6 storming of the US Capitol — during which Trump has been widely documented to have been giddily watching television while refusing to take action to stop the assault on the halls of power — the ex-president claimed otherwise.
“I had heard that afterward and actually on the late side,” he claimed. “I was having meetings. I was also with Mark Meadows and others. I was not watching television.”
Haberman said overwhelming evidence showed the statement to be a lie.
Said Haberman: “His impulse to try to sell his preferred version of himself was undeterred by the stain that January 6 left on his legacy and on the democratic foundations of the country – if anything, it grew stronger.”
Haberman described Trump’s life at his Mar-A-Lago estate just after departing the presidency, in March 2021.
“After the headiness of being at the center of the world’s gaze, his time after the White House made him seem shrunken,” she wrote.
“He often played golf and then went to his newly built office at the club for meetings with whoever traveled down to seek his approval. He would watch television before going to dinner, where club members would sometimes applaud him, and then it would start all over again the next day, so removed from the daily rhythms of the broader world that he was oblivious to holidays on the calendar and staff had to remind him.”
In July, the investigating committee into the January 6 events said that despite desperate pleas from aides, allies, a Republican congressional leader and even his family, Trump refused to call off the January 6 mob attack on the Capitol, instead “pouring gasoline on the fire” by aggressively tweeting his false claims of a stolen election and celebrating his crowd of supporters as “very special.”
The panel documented how for some 187 minutes, from the time Trump left a rally stage sending his supporters to the Capitol to the time he ultimately appeared in the Rose Garden video that day to call for calm, nothing could compel the defeated president to act. Instead, he watched the violence unfold on TV.
The defeated president turned his supporters’ “love of country into a weapon,” said the panel’s Republican vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming.
“Donald Trump made a purposeful choice to violate his oath of office,” Cheney declared.
“Every American must consider this: Can a president who is willing to make the choices Donald Trump made during the violence of Jan. 6 ever be trusted in any position of authority in our great nation?” she asked.
Trump, who is considering another White House run, dismissed the committee as a “Kangaroo court,” and name-called the panel and witnesses for “many lies and misrepresentations.”
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The former Amerian leader once called his fans “fucking crazy,” Haberman wrote in The Atlantic, while describing three post-presidency interviews she held with Trump in the run-up to the release of a book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America.”
When the two spoke of the January 6 storming of the US Capitol — during which Trump has been widely documented to have been giddily watching television while refusing to take action to stop the assault on the halls of power — the ex-president claimed otherwise.
“I had heard that afterward and actually on the late side,” he claimed. “I was having meetings. I was also with Mark Meadows and others. I was not watching television.”
Haberman said overwhelming evidence showed the statement to be a lie.
Said Haberman: “His impulse to try to sell his preferred version of himself was undeterred by the stain that January 6 left on his legacy and on the democratic foundations of the country – if anything, it grew stronger.”
Haberman described Trump’s life at his Mar-A-Lago estate just after departing the presidency, in March 2021.
“After the headiness of being at the center of the world’s gaze, his time after the White House made him seem shrunken,” she wrote.
“He often played golf and then went to his newly built office at the club for meetings with whoever traveled down to seek his approval. He would watch television before going to dinner, where club members would sometimes applaud him, and then it would start all over again the next day, so removed from the daily rhythms of the broader world that he was oblivious to holidays on the calendar and staff had to remind him.”
In July, the investigating committee into the January 6 events said that despite desperate pleas from aides, allies, a Republican congressional leader and even his family, Trump refused to call off the January 6 mob attack on the Capitol, instead “pouring gasoline on the fire” by aggressively tweeting his false claims of a stolen election and celebrating his crowd of supporters as “very special.”
The panel documented how for some 187 minutes, from the time Trump left a rally stage sending his supporters to the Capitol to the time he ultimately appeared in the Rose Garden video that day to call for calm, nothing could compel the defeated president to act. Instead, he watched the violence unfold on TV.
The defeated president turned his supporters’ “love of country into a weapon,” said the panel’s Republican vice chair Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming.
“Donald Trump made a purposeful choice to violate his oath of office,” Cheney declared.
“Every American must consider this: Can a president who is willing to make the choices Donald Trump made during the violence of Jan. 6 ever be trusted in any position of authority in our great nation?” she asked.
Trump, who is considering another White House run, dismissed the committee as a “Kangaroo court,” and name-called the panel and witnesses for “many lies and misrepresentations.”
Trump called fans ‘f***ing crazy,’ denied watching TV during Capitol attack — book
NY Times reporter who interviewed former president after his departure from office describes him in immediate aftermath as adrift, 'shrunken'
www.timesofisrael.com
What Trump supporters do not want to hear from his own words:
200,000 forged signatures? Trump is crazy as an outhouse rat.
"related to"? Bullshit, it's a fishing expedition, like all the others. Look until you find something, anything, that you can spin as something.
Former US President Donald Trump was surprised by supporters’ fervent loyalty toward him and sometimes derisive, The New York Times’ Maggie Haberman has said.
The former Amerian leader once called his fans “fucking crazy,” Haberman wrote in The Atlantic, ....
Every President has over zealous supporters.
Trump's base was some of the quietest and sanest member of society, ie working class whites. Sure, lefties like to talk about 1/6.
THere were HUNDREDS of lefty race riots during that time period. DOZENS of deaths. Hundreds of millions in damages. Whole communities permanetly ruined.
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Do you believe in teh Southern Strategy Conspiracy Theory?
That is a lie with some serious and large and poisonous consequences. It has turned large segments of the population against each other.
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Tomorrow morning, jury selection begins in the case of the leader and four members of the Oath Keepers group, indicted on seditious conspiracy and other charges. The trial itself, with opening statements, is expected to begin later in the week, and could have serious implications for Trump.
The Washington Post reports, “Prosecutors plan to call as many as 40 witnesses over a projected five-week trial, draw from 800 statements by those charged and summarize tens of thousands of messages, hundreds of hours of video footage and hundreds of phone call, location and financial records, according to pretrial proceedings.”
How We Got Here
The history of the case is interesting. It started in late January, just after the insurrection when a grand jury charged Defendants Thomas Caldwell, Jessica Watkins and Donovan Crowl, in a four-count indictment that focused on a conspiracy to prevent or delay Congress from certifying the Electoral College vote (general conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. 371) and obstructing an official proceeding (obstruction under 18 U.S.C 1512).
Over time, new defendants and charges were added to the original indictment. This process is referred to as superseding an indictment. By the time the 6th Superseding Indictment was returned in December of 2021, there were 17 defendants, charges with 7 different counts, but the lead charges continued to be conspiracy and obstruction. This group of defendants is sometimes referred to as the Caldwell defendants.
In mid-January 2022, the Caldwell matter split into three different cases. The grand jury returned the indictment in the present case, titled United States v. Rhodes, on January 12, 2022, against 11 defendants alleging eight separate violations of law over 17 counts. The lead charge was seditious conspiracy. The indictment includes other charges including conspiracy to obstruct and obstruction of the certification of the 2020 vote. The people who were charged include nine original Caldwell defendants, the leader of the Oath Keepers, Elmer Stewart Rhodes, III, and one additional member.
The remaining Caldwell defendants were named in a new indictment re-titled United States v. Crowl. One defendant, Jonathan Walden, was charged in a stand-alone case.
Three member of the Oath Keepers, Joshua James, Brian Ulrich and William Todd Wilson have since pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy. They are expected to be among approximately a dozen witnesses who will testify for the government.
(full article online)
joycevance.substack.com
The Washington Post reports, “Prosecutors plan to call as many as 40 witnesses over a projected five-week trial, draw from 800 statements by those charged and summarize tens of thousands of messages, hundreds of hours of video footage and hundreds of phone call, location and financial records, according to pretrial proceedings.”
How We Got Here
The history of the case is interesting. It started in late January, just after the insurrection when a grand jury charged Defendants Thomas Caldwell, Jessica Watkins and Donovan Crowl, in a four-count indictment that focused on a conspiracy to prevent or delay Congress from certifying the Electoral College vote (general conspiracy under 18 U.S.C. 371) and obstructing an official proceeding (obstruction under 18 U.S.C 1512).
Over time, new defendants and charges were added to the original indictment. This process is referred to as superseding an indictment. By the time the 6th Superseding Indictment was returned in December of 2021, there were 17 defendants, charges with 7 different counts, but the lead charges continued to be conspiracy and obstruction. This group of defendants is sometimes referred to as the Caldwell defendants.
In mid-January 2022, the Caldwell matter split into three different cases. The grand jury returned the indictment in the present case, titled United States v. Rhodes, on January 12, 2022, against 11 defendants alleging eight separate violations of law over 17 counts. The lead charge was seditious conspiracy. The indictment includes other charges including conspiracy to obstruct and obstruction of the certification of the 2020 vote. The people who were charged include nine original Caldwell defendants, the leader of the Oath Keepers, Elmer Stewart Rhodes, III, and one additional member.
The remaining Caldwell defendants were named in a new indictment re-titled United States v. Crowl. One defendant, Jonathan Walden, was charged in a stand-alone case.
Three member of the Oath Keepers, Joshua James, Brian Ulrich and William Todd Wilson have since pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy. They are expected to be among approximately a dozen witnesses who will testify for the government.
(full article online)
The Oath Keepers Go To Trial
Tomorrow morning, jury selection begins in the case of the leader and four members of the Oath Keepers group, indicted on seditious conspiracy and other charges. The trial itself, with opening statements, is expected to begin later in the week, and could have serious implications for Trump.
joycevance.substack.com
Yet, it is you people that want a large group of Americans to be silenced forever and to be forever ignored, not us.
NOte it is you people that are constantly working to silence people, not us.
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[ Sadly, what can happen to those who blindly follow Trump's words and his need to stay in office ]
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Trump has never conceded. And you people proved nothing because you said you do not have to. If you did those ballots and other things requested would not have been blocked from public scrutiny. These people could not act more guilty if they tried.
Actually he did concede. He is living in Florida and not DC. If he was/is the man's man that his cult believes him to be he would have stayed to the end or died trying.
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Trump did not concede and I am not going to even consider what you think a man would do because you haven't a clue.Actually he did concede. He is living in Florida and not DC. If he was/is the man's man that his cult believes him to be he would have stayed to the end or died trying.
MAGA
Aldo Raine
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Trump did not concede and I am not going to even consider what you think a man would do because you haven't a clue.
Why did the manly man leave if he knows he won the election?
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Stupid question, even for you.Why did the manly man leave if he knows he won the election?
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Stupid question, even for you.
Why would the manl man leave the Whitehouse knowing he won the election?
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