Trump Versus Our Oldest Enemy

[PoliticalChic]

It remains true that the earth's climate is growing warmer. Most of these problems are growing. They will become obvious as time goes on.

More recent scientists are not immune. The CEI report cites Dr. David Viner, a climate researcher at the University of East Anglia, who in 2000 predicted snowfall would soon become "a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren't going to know what snow is." In 2008, one NASA scientist told Congress to expect all arctic ice to melt by 2018; that same year, Al Gore predicted it would vanish by 2013. As recently as 2014, the French foreign minister claimed the planet had just "500 days" before climate catastrophe."
Five Decades of Wrong Predictions About the Environmental Apocalypse


Does it still snow where you are?


If it does....who ya' gonna believe, the Democrats or your lying eyes?????

 

[PoliticalChic]

It remains true that the earth's climate is growing warmer. Most of these problems are growing. They will become obvious as time goes on.

 

[Hector12]

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I thought you were too intelligent to try to win an argument with a silly meme.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I thought you were too intelligent to try to win an argument with a silly meme.

I provided sever tons of evidence, and what you focus on is the meme?

Look, global warming threats are designed to scare you....which they have....into voting for the Democrats to protect you.

I can't "win the argument" with you simply because there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Take care.

 

[Hector12]

I provided sever tons of evidence, and what you focus on is the meme?

Look, global warming threats are designed to scare you....which they have....into voting for the Democrats to protect you.

I can't "win the argument" with you simply because there are none so blind as those who will not see.

Take care.

I have explained why I believe in global warming. Do I need to do it again. A few people have overestimated the speed with which it is happening, but it is happening.

 

[MagicMike]

In the 1970's scientists were predicting an ice age.

Bullshit.
Which scientists?
Got a link to their research?

"In 1970, ecologist Kenneth Watt told a Swarthmore College audience:

The world has been chilling sharply for about 20 years. If present trends continue, the world will be about 4 degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990 but 11 degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age.

He was obviously WAY wrong.

Also in 1970, Sen. Gaylord Nelson, D-Wis., wrote in Look magazine: “Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian (Institution), believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct.”

And he was right on track.

Americans have paid a steep price for buying into environmental deception and lies."
Here's How Wrong Past Environmental Predictions Have Been



Incidentally, Gaylord Nelson, founder of Earth Day, has, in fact, become extinct.

Full of caca as usual princess.
Another epic fail.

 

[MagicMike]

More recent scientists are not immune. The CEI report cites Dr. David Viner, a climate researcher at the University of East Anglia, who in 2000 predicted snowfall would soon become "a very rare and exciting event. … Children just aren't going to know what snow is." In 2008, one NASA scientist told Congress to expect all arctic ice to melt by 2018; that same year, Al Gore predicted it would vanish by 2013. As recently as 2014, the French foreign minister claimed the planet had just "500 days" before climate catastrophe."
Five Decades of Wrong Predictions About the Environmental Apocalypse


Does it still snow where you are?


If it does....who ya' gonna believe, the Democrats or your lying eyes?????

You are fake newsing again.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You are fake newsing again.

She loves to do that.

 

[IM2]

 

[Delldude]

It doesn’t matter what the voter views as good. The is the view of the first Progressive President, Woodrow Wilson, who famously said, "Men are as clay in the hands of a consummate leader," which means that a skilled leader can easily manipulate and influence the masses, much like a potter shaping clay, highlighting his belief in the powerful role of leadership in shaping public opinion and action.

He was also a Fascist.

A fascist that the progressive movement is based upon.

Good post.

 

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[PoliticalChic]

I have explained why I believe in global warming. Do I need to do it again. A few people have overestimated the speed with which it is happening, but it is happening.

No. It's clear.....you have chosen to ignore the dozens of false claims and threats that have failed to occur.

Climate is simply cycle, and has nothing to do with human endearvors.....there is "global warming" on other planets.


Without lies and hoaxes Democrats would never win an election.

Be well.

10:05 07 December 2001

From New Scientist Print Edition. Subscribe and get 4 free issues.

Jeff Hecht, Boston
Mars is undergoing global warming that could profoundly change the planet's climate in a few thousand years, new data suggests.
High-resolution images taken by NASA's Mars Global Surveyor show that the permanent south polar "ice" cap shrank significantly between two successive Martian summers - a period roughly corresponding to two Earth years. If the trend continues at the same rate and the polar cap is entirely frozen carbon dioxide, "the whole cap would be evaporated in a few thousand years," Mike Caplinger of Malin Space Science Systems told New Scientist.
This would release enough carbon dioxide to give Mars an atmosphere one-tenth the density of the Earth's. "That takes us from a situation of working in a near vacuum with a space suit to being able to run around on the surface with an oxygen mask and a heavy coat. It's what the terraforming people were always talking about," says Caplinger.
However, Caplinger warns it is hard to make long-term predictions using observations over such a short period.
David Smith of the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center thinks the shrinkage may be part of a multi-year climate cycle, like the terrestrial El Nino/Southern Oscillation. Recent dust storms might also have aided the melting of the cap.
Seasonal cycle
Planetary scientists have long recognized a seasonal cycle of growth and shrinkage of the frozen cap on Mars.
Separate new observations with the Mars Orbiter Laser Altimeter show up to two meters of fresh CO2 ice freezes out of the atmosphere each winter onto the polar caps, then evaporates in the spring and summer.
The high-resolution photographs allowed scientists to examine the permanent southern polar cap after the seasonal ice had evaporated. They pictures show a scattering of broad flat pits 30 to 100 meters wide with steep walls several meters high, like holes in a slice of swiss cheese on a flat surface.
The walls of many pits retreated one to three meters during the Martian year, but Caplinger could find no evidence the ice was being redeposited elsewhere.
No fluffy snow
Both sets of observations confirm that the upper layers of the ice caps are frozen carbon dioxide, as had been expected. One surprise was that the density of the seasonal "ice" - about 0.9 grams per cubic centimetre - is much higher than the density of snow on Earth, but not as high as that of solid blocks of frozen carbon dioxide.
This indicates the carbon dioxide "ice" froze on the surface, rather than falling as fluffy snow, which would have been lighter due to spaces between the crystals.
Planetary scientists hope the new data will help them understand past Martian climate. It also shows "there's really some interesting stuff yet to be discovered" about Martian seasons and climate, says David Paige of the University of California at Los Angeles. Plans call for a continuation of the high-resolution imaging for at least another Martian year to see if the trends continue.
Journal reference: Science (vol 294, p 2141, 2146)

Return to the Latest on No Left Turns​ Global Warming--on Mars? Now this is interesting. According to the latest information coming back from the Mars Global Surveyor, the red planet has been getting warmer over the past three years. Which obviously means one of three things: 1. Earth’s evil corporate polluters have found a way to beam their greenhouse gas emissions to other planets, or 2. Dick Cheney and his Halliburton buddies are intercepting the signals from the orbiter and are putting their own spin on it, or 3. Global warming is taking place on a solar-system-wide level, and has something to do with the strength of the sun, and not the presence or absence of something in the earth’s atmosphere. Post by John Moser | Link to this Entry | 9/21/2005 4:38 PM Mars Melt Hints at Solar, Not Human, Cause for Warming, Scientist Says Kate Ravilious for National Geographic News February 28, 2007 Simultaneous warming on Earth and Mars suggests that our planet's recent climate changes have a natural—and not a human- induced—cause, according to one scientist's controversial theory. Earth is currently experiencing rapid warming, which the vast majority of climate scientists says is due to humans pumping huge amounts of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. (Get an overview: "Global Warming Fast Facts".) Enlarge Photo Email to a Friend RELATED Photo Gallery: Global Warming New Mars Pictures Show Signs of Watery "Aquifers" (February 16, 2007) Climate Change Predictions Not Exaggerated, Analysis Says (February 1, 2007) Mars, too, appears to be enjoying more mild and balmy temperatures. In 2005 data from NASA's Mars Global Surveyor and Odyssey missions revealed that the carbon dioxide "ice caps" near Mars's south pole had been diminishing for three summers in a row. Habibullo Abdussamatov, head of the St. Petersburg's Pulkovo Astronomical Observatory in Russia, says the Mars data is evidence that the current global warming on Earth is being caused by changes in the sun. "The long-term increase in solar irradiance is heating both Earth and Mars," he said. Solar Cycles Abdussamatov believes that changes in the sun's heat output can account for almost all the climate changes we see on both planets. Mars and Earth, for instance, have experienced periodic ice ages throughout their histories. "Man-made greenhouse warming has made a small contribution to the warming seen on Earth in recent years, but it cannot compete with the increase in solar irradiance," Abdussamatov said. By studying fluctuations in the warmth of the sun, Abdussamatov believes he can see a pattern that fits with the ups and downs in climate we see on Earth and Mars. Abdussamatov's work, however, has not been well received by other climate scientists.

 

[Hector12]

No. It's clear.....you have chosen to ignore the dozens of false claims and threats that have failed to occur.

Climate is simply cycle, and has nothing to do with human endearvors.....there is "global warming" on other planets.


Without lies and hoaxes Democrats would never win an election.

Be well.

PoliticalChic, try to write your comments on one page. Compose them yourself, using the internet to verify factual assertions. Your word salads copied and pasted from the internet are tedious.

There are natural fluctuations in the climate. The consumption of fossil fuels is exacerbating them.

speaking of lies:

In his 1980 debate with President Carter Ronald Reagan said his economic policies of cutting taxes and raising military spending would balance the budget by 1983 "If not sooner."

In 1980 the national debt was $908 billion. This represented 32% of the gross domestic product (GDP).

By 1983 Reagan had been president for two years. The national debt grew to $1,377 billion. This represented 37% of the GDP.

Reagan's last full year in office was 1988. by the end of that year the national debt had grown to $2,602 billion. This represented 50% of the GDP.

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt grew to a record $34 trillion by the end of 2023. It was just $16 billion in 1930.

www.thebalancemoney.com

The Republican lie that tax cuts will balance the budget is what Paul Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2008, called "Zombie Economics." They are proven wrong again and again, but Republicans still believe them.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PoliticalChic, try to write your comments on one page. Compose them yourself, using the internet to verify factual assertions. Your word salads copied and pasted from the internet are tedious.

There are natural fluctuations in the climate. The consumption of fossil fuels is exacerbating them.

speaking of lies:

In his 1980 debate with President Carter Ronald Reagan said his economic policies of cutting taxes and raising military spending would balance the budget by 1983 "If not sooner."

In 1980 the national debt was $908 billion. This represented 32% of the gross domestic product (GDP).

By 1983 Reagan had been president for two years. The national debt grew to $1,377 billion. This represented 37% of the GDP.

Reagan's last full year in office was 1988. by the end of that year the national debt had grown to $2,602 billion. This represented 50% of the GDP.

U.S. National Debt by Year

The U.S. national debt grew to a record $34 trillion by the end of 2023. It was just $16 billion in 1930.

www.thebalancemoney.com

The Republican lie that tax cuts will balance the budget is what Paul Krugman, who won the Nobel Prize in Economics in 2008, called "Zombie Economics." They are proven wrong again and again, but Republicans still believe them.

If you don't like the way I post, or it frightens you......don't read it.


As far as you influencing my style…I am immovable, like General Jackson’s Virginians at First Manassas: a veritable stone wall. If you only had an acquaintance with history…you’d understand that.

 

[Hector12]

1.Newsweek Mag, 1975: “There are ominous signs that the Earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically and that these changes may portend a drastic decline in food production – with serious political implications for just about every nation on Earth. The drop in food output could begin quite soon, perhaps only 10 years from now. The regions destined to feel its impact are the great wheat-producing lands of Canada and the U.S.S.R. in the North, along with a number of marginally self-sufficient tropical areas – parts of India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Indochina and Indonesia – where the growing season is dependent upon the rains brought by the monsoon.

The evidence in support of these predictions has now begun to accumulate so massively that meteorologists are hard-pressed to keep up with it.”Newsweek on the cooling world


2. Even earlier, 1958: Betty Friedan- “…the glacial thermostat, the present interglacial stage is well advanced; the earth is now heading into another Ice Age. Certain signs, some of them visible to the layman as well as the scientist, indicate we may have been watching an Ice Age approach for some time without realizing what we were seeing.” The Coming Ice Age | Harper's Magazine - Part 8


Today, we hear the total opposite….and with absolute certainty.

Scientific theories change with the accumulation of new data.

 

[Delldude]

Scientific theories change with the accumulation of new data.

And federal funding.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Scientific theories change with the accumulation of new data.

I've already given you the facts, and they have no effect.

Sad.

What more is there to be said?



Maybe this might help:


"... an article by award-winning climate activist Michael Shellenberger, in which he apologizes "for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years."


Authored by Michael Shellenberger via Environmental Progress (emphasis ours)

On Behalf Of Environmentalists, I Apologize For The Climate Scare


On behalf of environmentalists everywhere, I would like to formally apologize for the climate scare we created over the last 30 years. Climate change is happening. It’s just not the end of the world. It’s not even our most serious environmental problem.
I may seem like a strange person to be saying all of this. I have been a climate activist for 20 years and an environmentalist for 30.
But as an energy expert asked by Congress to provide objective expert testimony, and invited by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to serve as Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report, I feel an obligation to apologize for how badly we environmentalists have misled the public.
Here are some facts few people know:

• Humans are not causing a “sixth mass extinction”
• The Amazon is not “the lungs of the world”
• Climate change is not making natural disasters worse
• Fires have declined 25% around the world since 2003
• The amount of land we use for meat — humankind’s biggest use of land — has declined by an area nearly as large as Alaska
• The build-up of wood fuel and more houses near forests, not climate change, explain why there are more, and more dangerous, fires in Australia and California
• Carbon emissions are declining in most rich nations and have been declining in Britain, Germany, and France since the mid-1970s
• Adapting to life below sea level made the Netherlands rich not poor
• We produce 25% more food than we need and food surpluses will continue to rise as the world gets hotter
• Habitat loss and the direct killing of wild animals are bigger threats to species than climate change
• Wood fuel is far worse for people and wildlife than fossil fuels
• Preventing future pandemics requires more not less “industrial” agriculture

I know that the above facts will sound like “climate denialism” to many people. But that just shows the power of climate alarmism"

​

Forbes Censors Award-Winning Environmentalist's Apology Over Three-Decade 'Climate Scare' - So Here It Is

"We environmentalists have misled the public."

www.zerohedge.com


THE SILLY SCIENCE OF CLIMATE ALARMISM

There are thousands of research reports on these natural periods of warming and cooling but the IPCC simply ignores them. Alarmism depends on the recent warming being unprecedented. Natural warming disappears. Do not look behind the curtain!

The Silly Science of Climate Alarmism - The Heartland Institute

There are thousands of research reports on natural periods of warming and cooling but the IPCC simply ignores them.

www.heartland.org

 

[Hector12]

And federal funding.

On the global warming controversy, the funding is mainly provided by the fossil fuel industry.

 

[Delldude]

On global the warming controversy the funding is mainly supplied by the fossil fuel industry.

Be honest.............the funding is for skepticism to climate change.

 

[Hector12]

Be honest.............the funding is for skepticism to climate change.

That is what I pointed out.