Trump Tower Meet....and Steele's dossier...

[nat4900]

The illegal part is “from a foreign government”. This is “conspiring with a foreign government” and it is very illegal.

Post the law.

here you fucking moron.....

Federal election law clearly prohibits political contributions to candidates by foreign nationals as well as candidates’ acceptance of anything of value from foreign nationals.

Federal election law, administered by the Federal Election Commission, prohibits contributions, donations and other expenditures by “foreign nationals” in any federal, state or local election as well an exchange of any “thing of value.” Most recently, Section 303 of the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act of 2002, also known as the McCain-Feingold Act, strengthened the ban on foreign money in U.S. electioneering.

https://lawandcrime.com/politics/ab...foreign-nationals-to-influence-u-s-elections/

 

[nat4900]

Didn't a Britt set up the Trump tower meeting? So you're just a hypocrite right?

No, moron........Setting up a meeting AND offering Trump dirt on Hillary with Russian spies is not exactly the same.......Is there a grown up around your trailer park to help your comprehension?

LOL

 

[nat4900]

Inevitably, Trump "defenders" will attempt to address the criticism of the [possibly criminal] meeting by Junior, Kushner and Manafort and Russian operatives, with a typical, "what about Clinton paying Steele for a dossier on Trump"???

Objectively, there is some lop-sided "logic" to this divertive defense........BUT, two factors must also be considered:

First, Steele is from a nation that is our closest ALLY, versus the attempt to gather opposition research by a country that is a long time ADVERSARY to the U.S.

Second, as we have long learned from the Watergate scandal, the initial wrong-doing PALES in comparison to the attempt to cover up the mistake......Trump has flip-flopped several times in his attempt to covering up the fiasco....directly implicating himself and his family.

Like most ANTI Trump threads on this forum, I expect this one to soon disappear....so, give it a shot in addressing it before the inevitable.

The only problem with the Trump Tower was that the boychinkins did discuss removing effects of the Maginsky Act for dirt on Hillary with the knowledge that the Russian lawyer was actually a Russian spy. That would be a felony, if it can be proven in court.

It would not be illegal to pay a Russian lawyer for opposition research.

But my guess is that the Trump Tower meeting will be sufficiently ambiguous enough to not show anything, beyond Trump knew of it beforehand and crafted statements that ended up being perjury for various underlings .... including the boychinkins. Indictments? Who knows. Not unless there's a bigger game afoot, imo.

The larger problem, imo, for Trump and Trumpbots is whether there's any evidence showing Trump knew of Russian hacking and used information from the hacking in his campaign. The hacking did not come from private individuals. THAT is why Rosenstein teed up the 14 Russians BEFORE Trump blew Putin at Sucksinsky.

You’re assessment of the legal ramifications of the Trump Tower meeting are incorrect. Obtaining dirt from a foreign government, to aid your political campaign is illegal.

The illegal part is “from a foreign government”. This is “conspiring with a foreign government” and it is very illegal.

Junior KNEW he was meeting with a Russian government lawyer. He was thrilled that the Russians wanted to help elect his father. This is the very definition of “collusion” which puts the lie to Trump’s “no collusion” mantra.

In addition to throwing his son under the bus on conspiracy charges, Dumb Donald has now said his son lied to Congress about the purpose of the meeting, and lying to Congress is a felony.

Last but not least, Trump has admitted to dictating the statement to the New York Times about that meeting, the statement which was later proven to be a lie, top to bottom. That ties into Dumb Donald’s ongoing pattern of obstruction of the Russia Investigation since that meeting was already investigation.

President Trump keeps changing his story on all things having to do with the Trump Campaign and its contacts with Russians.

If there is “no collusion”, why are you lying about this? How is the Mueller Investigation a “witch hunt” or a “hoax” when you have now admitted that your campaign did collude with Russian government officials around sanctions, and the President lied to the American public and the press.

Is the press, which has consistently reported the facts of the Russian Investigation, really the “enemy of the people”? Or is the man who has consistently lied, changed the narrative, covered up one set of lies with another set of lies, and denigrated those who both investigated and found the truth and those who reported it, the real enemy of the people here.

As I watch Vladimir Putin’s view of NATO and foreign policy being Trump’s policy, and the destruction of the world trade deals the US government established and which made the US the wealthiest nation on earth, being dismantled to the benefit of China and Russia, I have no doubt as to which it is.

With the Trump Towers, the US would have to prove the boychinkins knew Natashia (I mean Natalya (- was acting as an actual representative of the Russian govt, with the knowledge of the Russian govt, and was authorized to provide something in exchange for Trump doing something regarding the Maginsky Act.

Given that Russia acts through cutouts, and that Natashia does not want to die of a mysterious dose of nerve gas, I doubt the US can ever prove that.

But I think its more than probable the boychinkins lied under oath in providing statements directly dictated by Trump. The Boychinkins might get indicted, but I doubt we'll remove a sitting US potus with a gop Senate over that.

But Rosenstein laid out the actual names of Russian intelligence employees he has probable cause to say violated US law in hacking private communications. That was a shot across Trump's bow, and he reacted rather angrily. LOL IF the US can tie Trump directly to any meeting where Russia shared that information with Trump, or that Trump had foreknowledge of the Russain's use of that information to send out facebook information or wikileaks or sputnik news .... then I'm not sure the US even has to prove a quid pro quo. If Trump benefited, he's an accessory after the fact. That's a felony. Would the Senate remove him? I dunno. I mean we'd like to think they would do the right thing .... but

If Trump can be tied to directly offering anything of value for that information, that is a totally separate felony ... and one that I don't see cannot be anything beyond leading to impeachment and conviction, esp if Trump knew the material was illegally obtained by Russian intelligence agents.

AGAIN.......Its the damn COVER-UP and flip-flopping that will get Donny_baby in serious trouble....Check out what Donny told Congress AND what Trump just tweeted.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Inevitably, Trump "defenders" will attempt to address the criticism of the [possibly criminal] meeting by Junior, Kushner and Manafort and Russian operatives, with a typical, "what about Clinton paying Steele for a dossier on Trump"???

Objectively, there is some lop-sided "logic" to this divertive defense........BUT, two factors must also be considered:

First, Steele is from a nation that is our closest ALLY, versus the attempt to gather opposition research by a country that is a long time ADVERSARY to the U.S.

Second, as we have long learned from the Watergate scandal, the initial wrong-doing PALES in comparison to the attempt to cover up the mistake......Trump has flip-flopped several times in his attempt to covering up the fiasco....directly implicating himself and his family.

Like most ANTI Trump threads on this forum, I expect this one to soon disappear....so, give it a shot in addressing it before the inevitable.

The only problem with the Trump Tower was that the boychinkins did discuss removing effects of the Maginsky Act for dirt on Hillary with the knowledge that the Russian lawyer was actually a Russian spy. That would be a felony, if it can be proven in court.

It would not be illegal to pay a Russian lawyer for opposition research.

But my guess is that the Trump Tower meeting will be sufficiently ambiguous enough to not show anything, beyond Trump knew of it beforehand and crafted statements that ended up being perjury for various underlings .... including the boychinkins. Indictments? Who knows. Not unless there's a bigger game afoot, imo.

The larger problem, imo, for Trump and Trumpbots is whether there's any evidence showing Trump knew of Russian hacking and used information from the hacking in his campaign. The hacking did not come from private individuals. THAT is why Rosenstein teed up the 14 Russians BEFORE Trump blew Putin at Sucksinsky.

You’re assessment of the legal ramifications of the Trump Tower meeting are incorrect. Obtaining dirt from a foreign government, to aid your political campaign is illegal.

The illegal part is “from a foreign government”. This is “conspiring with a foreign government” and it is very illegal.

Junior KNEW he was meeting with a Russian government lawyer. He was thrilled that the Russians wanted to help elect his father. This is the very definition of “collusion” which puts the lie to Trump’s “no collusion” mantra.

In addition to throwing his son under the bus on conspiracy charges, Dumb Donald has now said his son lied to Congress about the purpose of the meeting, and lying to Congress is a felony.

Last but not least, Trump has admitted to dictating the statement to the New York Times about that meeting, the statement which was later proven to be a lie, top to bottom. That ties into Dumb Donald’s ongoing pattern of obstruction of the Russia Investigation since that meeting was already investigation.

President Trump keeps changing his story on all things having to do with the Trump Campaign and its contacts with Russians.

If there is “no collusion”, why are you lying about this? How is the Mueller Investigation a “witch hunt” or a “hoax” when you have now admitted that your campaign did collude with Russian government officials around sanctions, and the President lied to the American public and the press.

Is the press, which has consistently reported the facts of the Russian Investigation, really the “enemy of the people”? Or is the man who has consistently lied, changed the narrative, covered up one set of lies with another set of lies, and denigrated those who both investigated and found the truth and those who reported it, the real enemy of the people here.

As I watch Vladimir Putin’s view of NATO and foreign policy being Trump’s policy, and the destruction of the world trade deals the US government established and which made the US the wealthiest nation on earth, being dismantled to the benefit of China and Russia, I have no doubt as to which it is.

With the Trump Towers, the US would have to prove the boychinkins knew Natashia (I mean Natalya (- was acting as an actual representative of the Russian govt, with the knowledge of the Russian govt, and was authorized to provide something in exchange for Trump doing something regarding the Maginsky Act.

Given that Russia acts through cutouts, and that Natashia does not want to die of a mysterious dose of nerve gas, I doubt the US can ever prove that.

But I think its more than probable the boychinkins lied under oath in providing statements directly dictated by Trump. The Boychinkins might get indicted, but I doubt we'll remove a sitting US potus with a gop Senate over that.

But Rosenstein laid out the actual names of Russian intelligence employees he has probable cause to say violated US law in hacking private communications. That was a shot across Trump's bow, and he reacted rather angrily. LOL IF the US can tie Trump directly to any meeting where Russia shared that information with Trump, or that Trump had foreknowledge of the Russain's use of that information to send out facebook information or wikileaks or sputnik news .... then I'm not sure the US even has to prove a quid pro quo. If Trump benefited, he's an accessory after the fact. That's a felony. Would the Senate remove him? I dunno. I mean we'd like to think they would do the right thing .... but

If Trump can be tied to directly offering anything of value for that information, that is a totally separate felony ... and one that I don't see cannot be anything beyond leading to impeachment and conviction, esp if Trump knew the material was illegally obtained by Russian intelligence agents.

AGAIN.......Its the damn COVER-UP and flip-flopping that will get Donny_baby in serious trouble....Check out what Donny told Congress AND what Trump just tweeted.

RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!!

Any day now, any day now....

 

[nat4900]

RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!!

Any day now, any day now....

Comforting words to these guys, don;t you think SoggyPants???....LOL

 

[nat4900]

When President Trump flatly declared on Twitter that his son held that Trump Tower meeting in the full expectation of receiving dirt on Hillary Clinton, he may have done more than concede that collusion did, in fact, take place. He may have also inadvertently pointed to a motive for his repeated efforts to obstruct the Russia investigation — possibly strengthening the case that he obstructed justice.

Opinion | Trump may have just given a big boost to Mueller’s case against him

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!!

Any day now, any day now....

Comforting words to these guys, don;t you think SoggyPants???....LOL

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RUSSIA!! RUSSIA!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

FUNNY!! FUNNY!!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

I love how the mantra of the US is innocent until proven guilty. But for Trump it goes the other way. Can't make this stuff up.

 

[nat4900]

FUNNY!! FUNNY!!

Thanks for bumping up the thread........Clearly the ONLY contribution your half-brain can make to this forum......LOL

 

[nat4900]

I love how the mantra of the US is innocent until proven guilty. But for Trump it goes the other way. Can't make this stuff up.

have some more kool-aid.....LOL

 

[nat4900]

Inevitably, Trump "defenders" will attempt to address the criticism of the [possibly criminal] meeting by Junior, Kushner and Manafort and Russian operatives, with a typical, "what about Clinton paying Steele for a dossier on Trump"???

Objectively, there is some lop-sided "logic" to this divertive defense........BUT, two factors must also be considered:

First, Steele is from a nation that is our closest ALLY, versus the attempt to gather opposition research by a country that is a long time ADVERSARY to the U.S.

Second, as we have long learned from the Watergate scandal, the initial wrong-doing PALES in comparison to the attempt to cover up the mistake......Trump has flip-flopped several times in his attempt to covering up the fiasco....directly implicating himself and his family.

Like most ANTI Trump threads on this forum, I expect this one to soon disappear....so, give it a shot in addressing it before the inevitable.

ITS THE COVER-UP, STUPID.........LOL

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You want to go down this path again. Last time we conversed you ran with your tail tucked between your legs. Instead of childish memes why don't you post a cogent thought.

 

[blastoff]

Inevitably, Trump "defenders" will attempt to address the criticism of the [possibly criminal] meeting by Junior, Kushner and Manafort and Russian operatives, with a typical, "what about Clinton paying Steele for a dossier on Trump"???

Objectively, there is some lop-sided "logic" to this divertive defense........BUT, two factors must also be considered:

First, Steele is from a nation that is our closest ALLY, versus the attempt to gather opposition research by a country that is a long time ADVERSARY to the U.S.

Second, as we have long learned from the Watergate scandal, the initial wrong-doing PALES in comparison to the attempt to cover up the mistake......Trump has flip-flopped several times in his attempt to covering up the fiasco....directly implicating himself and his family.

Like most ANTI Trump threads on this forum, I expect this one to soon disappear....so, give it a shot in addressing it before the inevitable.

I’m sorry to be the one to inform you but this meeting bullishit isn’t IT.

It’s just one of the lefty wet dreams you clowns get all exercised about while you’re waiting for the next one to come along.

 

[bendog]

Inevitably, Trump "defenders" will attempt to address the criticism of the [possibly criminal] meeting by Junior, Kushner and Manafort and Russian operatives, with a typical, "what about Clinton paying Steele for a dossier on Trump"???

Objectively, there is some lop-sided "logic" to this divertive defense........BUT, two factors must also be considered:

First, Steele is from a nation that is our closest ALLY, versus the attempt to gather opposition research by a country that is a long time ADVERSARY to the U.S.

Second, as we have long learned from the Watergate scandal, the initial wrong-doing PALES in comparison to the attempt to cover up the mistake......Trump has flip-flopped several times in his attempt to covering up the fiasco....directly implicating himself and his family.

Like most ANTI Trump threads on this forum, I expect this one to soon disappear....so, give it a shot in addressing it before the inevitable.

The only problem with the Trump Tower was that the boychinkins did discuss removing effects of the Maginsky Act for dirt on Hillary with the knowledge that the Russian lawyer was actually a Russian spy. That would be a felony, if it can be proven in court.

It would not be illegal to pay a Russian lawyer for opposition research.

But my guess is that the Trump Tower meeting will be sufficiently ambiguous enough to not show anything, beyond Trump knew of it beforehand and crafted statements that ended up being perjury for various underlings .... including the boychinkins. Indictments? Who knows. Not unless there's a bigger game afoot, imo.

The larger problem, imo, for Trump and Trumpbots is whether there's any evidence showing Trump knew of Russian hacking and used information from the hacking in his campaign. The hacking did not come from private individuals. THAT is why Rosenstein teed up the 14 Russians BEFORE Trump blew Putin at Sucksinsky.

You’re assessment of the legal ramifications of the Trump Tower meeting are incorrect. Obtaining dirt from a foreign government, to aid your political campaign is illegal.

The illegal part is “from a foreign government”. This is “conspiring with a foreign government” and it is very illegal.

Junior KNEW he was meeting with a Russian government lawyer. He was thrilled that the Russians wanted to help elect his father. This is the very definition of “collusion” which puts the lie to Trump’s “no collusion” mantra.

In addition to throwing his son under the bus on conspiracy charges, Dumb Donald has now said his son lied to Congress about the purpose of the meeting, and lying to Congress is a felony.

Last but not least, Trump has admitted to dictating the statement to the New York Times about that meeting, the statement which was later proven to be a lie, top to bottom. That ties into Dumb Donald’s ongoing pattern of obstruction of the Russia Investigation since that meeting was already investigation.

President Trump keeps changing his story on all things having to do with the Trump Campaign and its contacts with Russians.

If there is “no collusion”, why are you lying about this? How is the Mueller Investigation a “witch hunt” or a “hoax” when you have now admitted that your campaign did collude with Russian government officials around sanctions, and the President lied to the American public and the press.

Is the press, which has consistently reported the facts of the Russian Investigation, really the “enemy of the people”? Or is the man who has consistently lied, changed the narrative, covered up one set of lies with another set of lies, and denigrated those who both investigated and found the truth and those who reported it, the real enemy of the people here.

As I watch Vladimir Putin’s view of NATO and foreign policy being Trump’s policy, and the destruction of the world trade deals the US government established and which made the US the wealthiest nation on earth, being dismantled to the benefit of China and Russia, I have no doubt as to which it is.

With the Trump Towers, the US would have to prove the boychinkins knew Natashia (I mean Natalya (- was acting as an actual representative of the Russian govt, with the knowledge of the Russian govt, and was authorized to provide something in exchange for Trump doing something regarding the Maginsky Act.

Given that Russia acts through cutouts, and that Natashia does not want to die of a mysterious dose of nerve gas, I doubt the US can ever prove that.

But I think its more than probable the boychinkins lied under oath in providing statements directly dictated by Trump. The Boychinkins might get indicted, but I doubt we'll remove a sitting US potus with a gop Senate over that.

But Rosenstein laid out the actual names of Russian intelligence employees he has probable cause to say violated US law in hacking private communications. That was a shot across Trump's bow, and he reacted rather angrily. LOL IF the US can tie Trump directly to any meeting where Russia shared that information with Trump, or that Trump had foreknowledge of the Russain's use of that information to send out facebook information or wikileaks or sputnik news .... then I'm not sure the US even has to prove a quid pro quo. If Trump benefited, he's an accessory after the fact. That's a felony. Would the Senate remove him? I dunno. I mean we'd like to think they would do the right thing .... but

If Trump can be tied to directly offering anything of value for that information, that is a totally separate felony ... and one that I don't see cannot be anything beyond leading to impeachment and conviction, esp if Trump knew the material was illegally obtained by Russian intelligence agents.

AGAIN.......Its the damn COVER-UP and flip-flopping that will get Donny_baby in serious trouble....Check out what Donny told Congress AND what Trump just tweeted.

Well, let's keep separate the issues of "cover up" and "conspiring with vlad."

 

[nat4900]

You want to go down this path again. Last time we conversed you ran with your tail tucked between your legs. Instead of childish memes why don't you post a cogent thought.

Thanks for the bump of the thread......Much appreciated.....

The "cogent thought" was in the O/P......Go back to bed,you're useless here with your Trump ass-kissing.......

 

[nat4900]

Well, let's keep separate the issues of "cover up" and "conspiring with vlad."

The "conspiring with Vlad" is OBVIOUS........The "cover up" is tantamount to LYING to the American voters........THAT is what will bring the orange clown downto the gutter.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

You want to go down this path again. Last time we conversed you ran with your tail tucked between your legs. Instead of childish memes why don't you post a cogent thought.

Thanks for the bump of the thread......Much appreciated.....

The "cogent thought" was in the O/P......Go back to bed,you're useless here with your Trump ass-kissing.......

You just ran again. So sad to see. Your next cogent thought will be your first.

 

[nat4900]

It’s just one of the lefty wet dreams you clowns get all exercised about[/QUOTE]


"Exercised"?????

This is why Trump once famously stated:

 

[nat4900]

You just ran again. So sad to see. Your next cogent thought will be your first.

I don't "wrestle with pigs" for too long.....Bye-bye, moron.....lol