Trump to end LGBTQ crisis hotline… why?

[Slade3200]

It doesn't help you loons start telling 8 year olds they can change their gender. Just leave them alone.

What does that have to do with the crisis hotline?

 

[ThisIsMe]

I understand debate about trans in sports and locker rooms etc. but why in the world would anybody end a crisis hotline that receives over 2000 calls a day? These are youth who are suicidal and in crisis reaching out for help. And there’s no plan or effort to replace the assistance with anything.

Play your political games all you want but cutting off a lifeline to people in need of help is just cruel.

Does anybody want to try and justify this?

Trump administration to shutter LGBTQ youth suicide hotline next month — The Hill

President Trump’s administration has ordered a crisis service for LGBTQ youth to close within 30 days in a move that opponents have said will have dire consequences.

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Everyone will still get help, there just wont be a "press 3" option

 

[ThisIsMe]

What is the slant with which the LGBT hotline answers these calls? If they are government funded, they will be agenda driven. So what agenda and I asked to pay for this time?

Frankly, I'm very skeptical of claims that LGBT-Q++ youth are constantly on the verge of mass suicide, and that such deaths can only be averted by granting Democrats everything they want.

Slade3200, why would I need to justify NOT spending money on this? You justify the costs, and the loss of opportunities to spend that money elsewhere.

It was a partnership with a private company. They were allocated 33M, they've already exceeded that amount.

LGBTQ people in crisis will still be able to receive help, they are not taking that away. They are just removing the "press 3" program.

 

[Slade3200]

That's from January. Six months ago and the absolute peak of contacts. The AI numbers is what it is today.

Big difference.

Again, if you want a specialized service for one specific group ... find it privately. I'm happy to find a crisis hotline for Veterans. We owe them that.

I'm happy to publicly fund a crisis hotline for everyone else as well.

But publicly funding a crisis hotline for different groups sets a terrible precedent. Who else deserves a specialized hotline? Inner-city residents? Farmers? Polyamorous thruples?

Let's fund one hotline for everyone.

If certain groups want to fund a special, more focused hotline... be my guest.

The hotline is for everyone. It’s made improvements to better help the higher risk groups. Trump is reversing that. That makes the support system worse, not better.

 

[whitehall]

Is there a Veteran hotline crisis center?

 

[Missourian]

That has nothing to do with this thread

It wasn't addressed to you, it was in answer to the comment of another poster.

 

[Slade3200]

It was a partnership with a private company. They were allocated 33M, they've already exceeded that amount.

LGBTQ people in crisis will still be able to receive help, they are not taking that away. They are just removing the "press 3" program.

Why are they doing that? It was out there for a reason wasn’t it. It has gained a substantial amount of use. That money funded training and partnerships to provide better support. How does cutting it help the situation and not make it worse?

 

[Seymour Flops]

Doesn’t matter and not relevant to this thread.

If matters if you say "they only thank they's one sex!" and expect that to be damning. Just tell us how many sexes the admin is leaving out by only thinking that there are two.

If a kid identified as a tree and was on the verge of killing himself I’d want to provide him with help

Yes, but you would not need a "thinks he's a tree" hotline, a "thinks he's a bush" hotline, a "thinks he's a stalk of bamboo" hotline, etc. A general "Unhealthy Delusions" hotline would suffice for all kinds of delusions, including "I think I'm the opposite sex" delusion.

But, as I said above, only one suicide helpline is needed, and it should always be answered by a human, not a machine that offers a menu.

 

[Slade3200]

Is there a Veteran hotline crisis center?

Yes

 

[Slade3200]

If matters if you say "they only thank they's one sex!" and expect that to be damning. Just tell us how many sexes the admin is leaving out by only thinking that there are two.

This isn’t about inclusion, it’s about providing the best possible mental health support for the most at risk groups

 

[Kondor3]

...there is much more to it and how operators respond to and handle people in crisis can be the difference between life and death.

Any social-worker who is worth his-or-her salt... especially L(icensed) C(linical) S(ocial) W(orkers).. can handle such things.

Especially following some additional focused training in suicide prevention that has shown good results for these call centers.

In part this is about money, and taxpayers have "had enough" of spending on special accommodations for Queer Folk.

They'll have to take their chances like everyone else, and, for those who fall through the cracks, their mental illness did them in.

After decades of increasing pressure by Queer Folk to reshape Mainstream America, be thankful that the push-back is so controlled.

This is a natural reaction by Mainstream America to decades of forcible Leftist Social Re-engineering shoved down America's throat.

You-and-yours kept pushing and pushing and pushing and became arrogant and overconfident and now The Bill is coming due.

You just didn't know when to stop and not to keep pushing your luck... and THAT is a trait shared by a great-many on The Left.

What I find absolutely amazing is that, in your arrogance, you-and-yours could not even conceive of such a series of countering moves.

Well... Judgement Day is here, I suppose, and nobody outside your own circles really cares very much, so... enjoy.

 

[Slade3200]

Everyone will still get help, there just wont be a "press 3" option

So would it be fair to say that the press 3 option was a total waste and ineffective? So removing it won’t impact anything?

Should we take away the channel for vets too? Send everyone to the same place?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Why are they doing that? It was out there for a reason wasn’t it. It has gained a substantial amount of use. That money funded training and partnerships to provide better support. How does cutting it help the situation and not make it worse?

The link in article you posted says they will still get the same professional expert care.

Everyone who contacts the 988 Lifeline will continue to receive access to skilled, caring, culturally competent crisis counselors who can help with suicidal, substance misuse, or mental health crises, or any other kind of emotional distress. Anyone who calls the Lifeline will continue to receive compassion and help.

And

The Press 3 option was established as a pilot program in Fiscal Year 2022 under a government agreement with a third party. The Fiscal Year 2023 Omnibus included a Congressional directive for $29.7 million to fund the specialized services. Federal funding in FY24 for the Press 3 services increased to $33 million. As of June 2025, more than $33 million in funds have been spent to support the subnetworks, fully expending the monies allocated for 988 Lifeline LGB+ subnetwork services.

The money allocated for the pilot program was fully expended..

 

[Blisterfinger]

He wants gay to stop the growth of mankind

He is very odd

 

[ThisIsMe]

So would it be fair to say that the press 3 option was a total waste and ineffective? So removing it won’t impact anything?

Should we take away the channel for vets too? Send everyone to the same place?

I dont know if it was a total waste or not, im just saying that they are not removing the help these people get, they are just removing that program.

As far as vets, is there a special program for suicidal vets that has run out of money and expired? If so, and you feel like removing it, by all means, advocate for that.

 

[Kondor3]

So would it be fair to say that the press 3 option was a total waste and ineffective? So removing it won’t impact anything?

Don't know... but the public doesn't want to spend money on it any longer.

Should we take away the channel for vets too?

Your average Queer Folk didn't serve In Uniform nor put their lives in danger on behalf of their country. Apples and Oranges.

Send everyone to the same place?

For non-military non-first-responder types, generally speaking... yes.

 

[Missourian]

The hotline is for everyone. It’s made improvements to better help the higher risk groups. Trump is reversing that. That makes the support system worse, not better.

Do we need a special hotline for people in debt? How about people whose spouse has been unfaithful? Or people who lost their job.

Or better yet, a specialized hotline for Americans depressed that their reparations haven't come through yet. Or racists with spouse cheated with another race???



Why are their problems less important than the LGBTQ?

Or ... we can have one hotline that specializes in deterring suicide and points people to the resources they need. If that's a specialized private group that funds therapists for at risk LGBT folks, I'm all for it.

 

[Blisterfinger]

Agreed they are special. They are also high risk of suicide this having trained professionals and extra efforts made to give support is warranted. Same can be said for LGBTQ.

No, lgbtq is just pure mental illness, you can't say that of veterans. Veterans earned special treatment, lgbtq did not. Lgbtq should have to go through the same channels everybody else does unlike veterans. Not sure why you democrat communists want to give special rights to lgbtq, they certainly need treatment but the federal government doesn't normally cover that type of care.
Seems like Trump is always right.

It offends me as a veteran that you would put me in the same category as lgbtq and say I was even similar. You certainly wouldn't to my face.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Slade3200

Trump to end LGBTQ crisis hotline… why?​

Did we have an LGBTQ crisis hotline in 1985? Why or why not?
Are suicide rates lower today than they were in 1985?

 

[Slade3200]

I dont know if it was a total waste or not, im just saying that they are not removing the help these people get, they are just removing that program.

As far as vets, is there a special program for suicidal vets that has run out of money and expired? If so, and you feel like removing it, by all means, advocate for that.

Well people involved with that program have expressed concern about the negative effects it will have. Common sense understand the message this sends to the LgBtQ community. And the reasons give by Trump and his admin doesn’t breach past petty and political