Trump to attend Georgia-Alabama football championship game, Kendrick Lamar performs at half-time

[WinterBorn]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Sure! They are the National Champs because they say that they are. No need to follow the system that the NCAA FBS Division agreed on. Just proclaim it!

Look, UCF had a great season. But the National Champs? That would be the Alabama Crimson Tide!

Not UCF. Not the Georgia Bulldogs (who Trump was cheering for).

Alabama ripped off Ohio state..i told you the winner of clemson vs Alabama would win the title now didn't I...

 

[WinterBorn]

Roll Tide

Maybe they'll win the runner-up bowl against Georgia.

ROLL TIDE!!
The Dawgs are the runner up!

The AP Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) UCF
7) Wisconsin
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) Auburn

Coaches Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) Wisconsin
7) UCF
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) USC

Sorry, I don't see UCF at the top of either poll. And these two polls are independent of the playoff polls.

 

[WinterBorn]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Sure! They are the National Champs because they say that they are. No need to follow the system that the NCAA FBS Division agreed on. Just proclaim it!

Look, UCF had a great season. But the National Champs? That would be the Alabama Crimson Tide!

Not UCF. Not the Georgia Bulldogs (who Trump was cheering for).

Alabama ripped off Ohio state..i told you the winner of clemson vs Alabama would win the title now didn't I...

Yes, I recall that you did predict both wins.

But then, the whole "Alabama ripped off Ohio State" is completely wrong. Ohio State had 2 losses to Alabama's 1 loss. That alone should have done it. But Alabama lost by 12 points. Ohio State lost by 15 and 31 respectively. And losing by 31 points to an unranked team is what kept them out, imho.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Roll Tide

Maybe they'll win the runner-up bowl against Georgia.

ROLL TIDE!!
The Dawgs are the runner up!

The AP Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) UCF
7) Wisconsin
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) Auburn

Coaches Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) Wisconsin
7) UCF
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) USC

Sorry, I don't see UCF at the top of either poll. And these two polls are independent of the playoff polls.

So you've cited three opinions. Big deal. Logic makes UCF national champs. Cut and dried.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Sure! They are the National Champs because they say that they are. No need to follow the system that the NCAA FBS Division agreed on. Just proclaim it!

Look, UCF had a great season. But the National Champs? That would be the Alabama Crimson Tide!

Not UCF. Not the Georgia Bulldogs (who Trump was cheering for).

Alabama ripped off Ohio state..i told you the winner of clemson vs Alabama would win the title now didn't I...

Yes, I recall that you did predict both wins.

But then, the whole "Alabama ripped off Ohio State" is completely wrong. Ohio State had 2 losses to Alabama's 1 loss. That alone should have done it. But Alabama lost by 12 points. Ohio State lost by 15 and 31 respectively. And losing by 31 points to an unranked team is what kept them out, imho.

And UCF had zero losses and beat the team who beat Alabama.

 

[WinterBorn]

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

And it was not just the playoff committee. Both the AP and the Coaches polls have UCF ranked too to have been in the playoffs. It is not just being undefeated.

 

[WinterBorn]

Roll Tide

Maybe they'll win the runner-up bowl against Georgia.

ROLL TIDE!!
The Dawgs are the runner up!

The AP Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) UCF
7) Wisconsin
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) Auburn

Coaches Poll:
1) Alabama
2) Georgia
3) Oklahoma
4) Clemson
5) Ohio State
6) Wisconsin
7) UCF
8) Penn State
9) TCU
10) USC

Sorry, I don't see UCF at the top of either poll. And these two polls are independent of the playoff polls.

So you've cited three opinions. Big deal. Logic makes UCF national champs. Cut and dried.

I have sited the opinions that are used to rank teams. The AP has been the standard for decades. The Playoff polls are what every school agreed to go by for the 4 team playoff.

Proclaiming UCF the champions hold no more accuracy that when auburn called themselves the champions (in '03?) and had rings made. The actual champion is the one that wins the playoffs.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

And it was not just the playoff committee. Both the AP and the Coaches polls have UCF ranked too to have been in the playoffs. It is not just being undefeated.

They screwed up this year. No two ways about it. We're right back to where we were 25 years ago.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

Your circular reasoning dead-ends at UCF because no one beat them.
Since they were not included in the playoff in spite of their record, the playoff is moot.

 

[WinterBorn]

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

Your circular reasoning dead-ends at UCF because no one beat them.
Since they were not included in the playoff in spite of their record, the playoff is moot.

It is not circular reasoning. The people who rank the teams, whether for the playoffs or not, did not consider UCF to be one of the 4 best teams in the nation. The main reason, as I understand it, was strength of schedule.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

Your circular reasoning dead-ends at UCF because no one beat them.
Since they were not included in the playoff in spite of their record, the playoff is moot.

It is not circular reasoning. The people who rank the teams, whether for the playoffs or not, did not consider UCF to be one of the 4 best teams in the nation. The main reason, as I understand it, was strength of schedule.

They obviously messed up.
In 1973, Penn St finished unbeaten, had the Heisman winner but their opponent in the Sugar Bowl (LSU, 9-3) lost to another unbeaten (Alabama)who eventually lost to another unbeaten (Notre Dame) and, consequently, PSU's weak schedule left them ranked 5th. (OU also finished unbeaten that year)
In 1984, BYU had a weak schedule and beat a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl but finished #1 because no one else finished unbeaten.
In 1975, Arizona St finished unbeaten and beat Nebraska in their bowl game but due to their weak schedule (they were not yet in the Pac 8) and the fact that OU crushed Nebraska in their season finale, ASU finished #2 and OU finished #1 instead in spite of having one loss (to Kansas, 23-3, November 8).
What is significant this time around is that CFU was snubbed unfairly. They are the only unbeaten team and beat the team who beat the two runner-up finalists.
In the name of sportsmanship and fairness, this is pretty clear cut. The pollsters and the committee have egg on their faces and won't admit it.

 

[WinterBorn]

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

Your circular reasoning dead-ends at UCF because no one beat them.
Since they were not included in the playoff in spite of their record, the playoff is moot.

It is not circular reasoning. The people who rank the teams, whether for the playoffs or not, did not consider UCF to be one of the 4 best teams in the nation. The main reason, as I understand it, was strength of schedule.

They obviously messed up.
In 1973, Penn St finished unbeaten, had the Heisman winner but their opponent in the Sugar Bowl (LSU, 9-3) lost to another unbeaten (Alabama)who eventually lost to another unbeaten (Notre Dame) and, consequently, PSU's weak schedule left them ranked 5th. (OU also finished unbeaten that year)
In 1984, BYU had a weak schedule and beat a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl but finished #1 because no one else finished unbeaten.
In 1975, Arizona St finished unbeaten and beat Nebraska in their bowl game but due to their weak schedule (they were not yet in the Pac 8) and the fact that OU crushed Nebraska in their season finale, ASU finished #2 and OU finished #1 instead in spite of having one loss (to Kansas, 23-3, November 8).
What is significant this time around is that CFU was snubbed unfairly. They are the only unbeaten team and beat the team who beat the two runner-up finalists.
In the name of sportsmanship and fairness, this is pretty clear cut. The pollsters and the committee have egg on their faces and won't admit it.

First of all, you keep talking about UCF beating the team that beat AL and GA. That happened in the bowl game. There was no way to know the outcome of the bowl game when the playoff schedule was being made.

Second of all, the fact that auburn beat Alabama, and then was beaten by UCF does not mean UCF was a better team than Alabama. Alabama beat 2 teams that beat auburn.

Also, strength of schedule is a big factor in selecting the place in the polls.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

wow, bit of a security nightmare.

but it's nice to see a POTUS take an active role in one of our past times, other than golf.

Why is it security nightmare? Getting in an NFL game is probably harder than getting into one of his rallies.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

So, if a Pop Warner team were to go undefeated and beat Auburn, they could be the national champions too?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

And the playoff committee looks at several things when they ranl the teams. One of which is Strength of Schedule. That is what kept UCF out of the playoffs. The president of UCF is calling them "The People's Choice Champions". Whatever that means.

But the actual NCAA National Champions are the Crimson Tide. No matter how many banners they hoist or how many times people sayi differently. It is in the record books.

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

That's as clear as mud.

Who is the 2004 NCAA football national champion?

Answer: There wasn't one!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

Sorry but U of Central Florida already won the national championship by going undefeated and beating the team that gave Alabama and Georgia their only losses.

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

So, if a Pop Warner team were to go undefeated and beat Auburn, they could be the national champions too?

That's a stupid postulation.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Ok really?

Yep. UCF is hoisting a national championship banner which they should.

Huh? What's it going to be the retard banner?

Speak for yourself. You don't see the absolute logic in this?
UCF is the only team to go undefeated. Alabama and Georgia each lose one game, both to Auburn.
UCF beats Auburn in their bowl game.
Case closed.

So, if a Pop Warner team were to go undefeated and beat Auburn, they could be the national champions too?

That's a stupid postulation.

Not really, considering the Twinkie/Cream puff schedule that UCF played!

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

The committee obviously messed up this year. You can't fault a team for its schedule. UCF beat everyone they played including the team that beat both teams in the runner-up bowl. It can't get any clearer than that.

auburn beat Georgia, and then Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship.

LSU beat auburn. Alabama beat LSU.
Clemson beat auburn. Alabama beat Clemson.
Georgia beat auburn in the SEC Championship. Alabama beat Georgia for the National Championship.

I would not have argued if UCF had made the playoffs. But they didn't.

Your circular reasoning dead-ends at UCF because no one beat them.
Since they were not included in the playoff in spite of their record, the playoff is moot.

It is not circular reasoning. The people who rank the teams, whether for the playoffs or not, did not consider UCF to be one of the 4 best teams in the nation. The main reason, as I understand it, was strength of schedule.

They obviously messed up.
In 1973, Penn St finished unbeaten, had the Heisman winner but their opponent in the Sugar Bowl (LSU, 9-3) lost to another unbeaten (Alabama)who eventually lost to another unbeaten (Notre Dame) and, consequently, PSU's weak schedule left them ranked 5th. (OU also finished unbeaten that year)
In 1984, BYU had a weak schedule and beat a 6-5 Michigan team in the Holiday Bowl but finished #1 because no one else finished unbeaten.
In 1975, Arizona St finished unbeaten and beat Nebraska in their bowl game but due to their weak schedule (they were not yet in the Pac 8) and the fact that OU crushed Nebraska in their season finale, ASU finished #2 and OU finished #1 instead in spite of having one loss (to Kansas, 23-3, November 8).
What is significant this time around is that CFU was snubbed unfairly. They are the only unbeaten team and beat the team who beat the two runner-up finalists.
In the name of sportsmanship and fairness, this is pretty clear cut. The pollsters and the committee have egg on their faces and won't admit it.

First of all, you keep talking about UCF beating the team that beat AL and GA. That happened in the bowl game. There was no way to know the outcome of the bowl game when the playoff schedule was being made.

Second of all, the fact that auburn beat Alabama, and then was beaten by UCF does not mean UCF was a better team than Alabama. Alabama beat 2 teams that beat auburn.

Also, strength of schedule is a big factor in selecting the place in the polls.

So you think opinion is more significant than an actual game. Lets not even play the games. Just turn the entire season into a beauty pageant.