Toddsterpatriot
Diamond Member
So you are not familiar with the fact that Big Oil and Big Coal get billions of dollars from the Federal government every year, rube??
I guess you've never heard of the term "subsidy".
Liar.
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So you are not familiar with the fact that Big Oil and Big Coal get billions of dollars from the Federal government every year, rube??
I guess you've never heard of the term "subsidy".
My god....you are dirt stupid, simp.Liar.
I'm a conservative who stopped voting 20 years ago.
I kind of agree with G.Carlon " Its a Club, And We Ain't In It" minus the F words.
I don't think manufacturing jobs will put Americans to work anymore. I feel robots will run the assembly lines like they have for decades.
I worked at GM in the 70s when the plants were full of people side by side working on autos. Now people have been replaced with robots.
So are all assembly plants in America and basically the world now.
Hurts red states more than blue states cause red states actually work don’t live off the governments teetsMost Republicans will never admit it, but Biden's 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was a godsend for red states. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act allocated hundreds of billions of dollars for green energy projects.
These green energy jobs are now GONE...thanks to Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill".
And most of the new green energy manufacturing projects from Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were in red states. Hundreds of thousands of good paying manufacturing jobs in the high-tech green energy field....GONE, overnight.
Overall, the "Big, Beautiful Bill" hurts red states more than blue states.
I thought Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back to this country with his stupid ****ing tariffs? Instead, this bill does the exact opposite. MAGA rubes....this is how Trump helps the working class???
Now, some Republican Senators such as Thom Tillis (R-NC) are greatly concerned about this, as the Washington Post article below discusses.
From the Washington Post --
In all, the bill would take away $522 billion that is scheduled to be injected into local economies across the country.
“The majority of the government spending is creating jobs and manufacturing capacity in red states,” said Jason Bordoff, the founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University. “So this puts Republicans, generally and now in the Senate, in the position of having to choose whether to support the party line or maintain support for government programs that are creating a lot of economic activity in their states.”
The measure — branded by Trump as the One Big Beautiful Bill — would rapidly phase out billions of dollars of tax incentives contained in the Inflation Reduction Act, which Congress passed in 2022. Some of the tax credits would end as soon as this year. The bill also slows the shift to electric vehicles by eliminating a tax credit of up to $7,500 for their purchase.
To pass it, Trump will need votes from Senate Republicans who have championed the green subsidies in their home states.
Sen. Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina), one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection next year, suggested Thursday that he would push for a slower phaseout of the clean energy subsidies. An immediate phaseout, he said, would “have a chilling effect” on “future investments” in the domestic energy sector.
“For companies that have made major capital deployment decisions, we need to respect that or people are going to start thinking that the United States has massive changes in policy every two years in this space, and that will be devastating to the U.S.’s current position as the innovation leader,” he said. “We’ve got to maintain that position.”
The subsidies have sparked billions of dollars’ worth of projects nationwide, but a Washington Post analysis last year found that most of the investments are flowing to red states.
In Tillis’s home state of North Carolina, the law has helped attract $23 billion in investment, according to data compiled by Atlas Public Policy and Utah State University. Forty-seven new facilities in the state — including a massive Toyota battery plant — could create about 20,000 new jobs, the data shows.
Now, analysts and advocates say, such projects could collapse or relocate abroad. The cuts also threaten the stability of the power grid, which is heavily reliant on solar and wind power.
“If this bill becomes law, America will effectively surrender the AI race to China and communities nationwide will face blackouts,” said Abigail Ross Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association, one of many groups lobbying the Senate to change course.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/23/senate-clean-energy-tax-credits/
Big Oil and Big Coal is fraud, Kleetus.
The Federal government is giving those super rich, environmental raping assholes billions of dollars per year in subsidies.
This moron talks about shirts shoes pots and pans like they’re frills. Do you not use shirts, shoes, pots, and pans? Dumbfucking inbredIt's a loss for you red state MAGA gomers.
I guess you would rather work in one Trump's 1970s era low paying Chinese manufacturing sweatshops making shirts, shoes, pots, and pans.
It's a loss for you red state MAGA gomers.
I guess you would rather work in one Trump's 1970s era low paying Chinese manufacturing sweatshops making shirts, shoes, pots, and pans.
My god....you are dirt stupid, simp.
I'm a conservative who stopped voting 20 years ago.
I kind of agree with G.Carlon " Its a Club, And We Ain't In It" minus the F words.
I don't think manufacturing jobs will put Americans to work anymore. I feel robots will run the assembly lines like they have for decades.
I worked at GM in the 70s when the plants were full of people side by side working on autos. Now people have been replaced with robots.
So are all assembly plants in America and basically the world now.
Yes....you would rather waste money on fossil fuels energy that pollutes the air and shortens your lifespan, dumb ass.End all the stupid, wasteful spending on green energy idiocy, even if a small part was for projects in red states.
Red states get more funding from the Federal government than blue states do, simp.Hurts red states more than blue states cause red states actually work don’t live off the governments teets
Robots take a lot of work from design to everyday useage.
Yes....you would rather waste money on fossil fuels energy that pollutes the air and shortens your lifespan, dumb ass.
They already do, dumb ass. Look up subsidies for oil and gas companies.Taxpayer dollars aren't going to pay for the cheaper, more reliable fossil fuel power.
It's only a "waste" for hopeless MAGA simpletons like you.We're only wasting tax dollars on less reliable, more expensive "green" energy.
They already do, dumb ass. Look up subsidies for oil and gas companies.
The health care costs of dirty fossil fuels is also an indirect cost to Americans.
It's only a "waste" for hopeless MAGA simpletons like you.
Holy shit, you are dense. --You think there are subsidies given to oil and gas companies, post some proof.
No, they are not a waste, simp. Green energy is a fast-growing, lucrative industry. And the imbecile Trump is fucking up our economy, allowing China to take the lead in green energy.Green energy subsidies are a waste.
They waste money and result in more expensive, less reliable power.
Wind turbines are a gigantic boondoggle. They're already obsolete. Fill the deserts with solar panels.
Holy shit, you are dense. --
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How much in subsidies do fossil fuels receive?
Estimates range from less than $1 trillion to $7 trillion. Where do these numbers come from?ourworldindata.org
No, they are not a waste, simp. Green energy is a fast-growing, lucrative industry. And the imbecile Trump is fucking up our economy, allowing China to take the lead in green energy.