Trump Thinks His Insane Tariffs Will Generate Manufacturing Jobs....But The "Big Beautiful Bill" Actually Eliminates Manufacturing Jobs In Red States

[Dr. Phosphorous]

Hahaha. You have nothing in response to my original post.

Which MAGA bullshit was that?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I guess your simple ass is trying to say I have no power in my house at night time?

I'm trying to say Chicago doesn't have any solar power at night.
Not a good way to save money, if you need power 24/7.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Rising ocean levels....from climate change, gomer.

If you tell someone from Miami it's not real, they'll just laugh at your idiot MAGA ass.

No home owner's insurance, because the ocean rose a few inches in the last 100 years?

DURR

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

No home owner's insurance, because the ocean rose a few inches in the last 100 years?

DURR

Home owner's insurance in south Florida and several U.S. coastal areas has gone way up....because of rising oceans levels....because of climate change.

Your ignorance is your problem, not mine.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Home owner's insurance in south Florida and several U.S. coastal areas has gone way up....because of rising oceans levels....because of climate change.

Your ignorance is your problem, not mine.

OMG!
The water is 2 inches higher, no more insurance.
DURR

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

OMG!
The water is 2 inches higher, no more insurance.
DURR

And projections are much higher over the next few decades, simp. The simple fact is that large parts of the coastal U.S. will no longer be inhabitable without billions of dollars of investment in sea walls, raised homes, etc.,

You can make light of it, but the people living in these areas are not.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And projections are much higher over the next few decades, simp. The simple fact is that large parts of the coastal U.S. will no longer be inhabitable without billions of dollars of investment in sea walls, raised homes, etc.,

You can make light of it, but the people living in these areas are not.

And projections are much higher over the next few decades

Oh no! 2 more inches by 2100. Or maybe 4 inches?

No one cares.

The simple fact is that large parts of the coastal U.S. will no longer be inhabitable without billions of dollars of investment in sea walls, raised homes, etc.,

Sounds like a much better investment than wasting trillions on solar.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

And projections are much higher over the next few decades

Oh no! 2 more inches by 2100. Or maybe 4 inches?

No one cares.

The simple fact is that large parts of the coastal U.S. will no longer be inhabitable without billions of dollars of investment in sea walls, raised homes, etc.,

Sounds like a much better investment than wasting trillions on solar.

People do care, simp. You don't live there, you have no ******* idea what you are saying....as always.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Most Republicans will never admit it, but Biden's 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was a godsend for red states. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act allocated hundreds of billions of dollars for green energy projects.

These green energy jobs are now GONE...thanks to Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill".

And most of the new green energy manufacturing projects from Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were in red states. Hundreds of thousands of good paying manufacturing jobs in the high-tech green energy field....GONE, overnight.

Overall, the "Big, Beautiful Bill" hurts red states more than blue states.

I thought Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back to this country with his stupid ****ing tariffs? Instead, this bill does the exact opposite. MAGA rubes....this is how Trump helps the working class???

Now, some Republican Senators such as Thom Tillis (R-NC) are greatly concerned about this, as the Washington Post article below discusses.


From the Washington Post --

In all, the bill would take away $522 billion that is scheduled to be injected into local economies across the country.

“The majority of the government spending is creating jobs and manufacturing capacity in red states,” said Jason Bordoff, the founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University. “So this puts Republicans, generally and now in the Senate, in the position of having to choose whether to support the party line or maintain support for government programs that are creating a lot of economic activity in their states.”

The measure — branded by Trump as the One Big Beautiful Bill — would rapidly phase out billions of dollars of tax incentives contained in the Inflation Reduction Act, which Congress passed in 2022. Some of the tax credits would end as soon as this year. The bill also slows the shift to electric vehicles by eliminating a tax credit of up to $7,500 for their purchase.

To pass it, Trump will need votes from Senate Republicans who have championed the green subsidies in their home states.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina), one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection next year, suggested Thursday that he would push for a slower phaseout of the clean energy subsidies. An immediate phaseout, he said, would “have a chilling effect” on “future investments” in the domestic energy sector.

“For companies that have made major capital deployment decisions, we need to respect that or people are going to start thinking that the United States has massive changes in policy every two years in this space, and that will be devastating to the U.S.’s current position as the innovation leader,” he said. “We’ve got to maintain that position.”

The subsidies have sparked billions of dollars’ worth of projects nationwide, but a Washington Post analysis last year found that most of the investments are flowing to red states.

In Tillis’s home state of North Carolina, the law has helped attract $23 billion in investment, according to data compiled by Atlas Public Policy and Utah State University. Forty-seven new facilities in the state — including a massive Toyota battery plant — could create about 20,000 new jobs, the data shows.

Now, analysts and advocates say, such projects could collapse or relocate abroad. The cuts also threaten the stability of the power grid, which is heavily reliant on solar and wind power.

“If this bill becomes law, America will effectively surrender the AI race to China and communities nationwide will face blackouts,” said Abigail Ross Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association, one of many groups lobbying the Senate to change course.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/23/senate-clean-energy-tax-credits/

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[Jim H - VA USA]

OMG!
The water is 2 inches higher, no more insurance.
DURR

Seems we should be more concerned about the forthcoming ice age and 100 meter drop in mean sea level....

 

[justoffal]

Most Republicans will never admit it, but Biden's 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was a godsend for red states. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act allocated hundreds of billions of dollars for green energy projects.

These green energy jobs are now GONE...thanks to Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill".

And most of the new green energy manufacturing projects from Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were in red states. Hundreds of thousands of good paying manufacturing jobs in the high-tech green energy field....GONE, overnight.

Overall, the "Big, Beautiful Bill" hurts red states more than blue states.

I thought Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back to this country with his stupid ****ing tariffs? Instead, this bill does the exact opposite. MAGA rubes....this is how Trump helps the working class???

Now, some Republican Senators such as Thom Tillis (R-NC) are greatly concerned about this, as the Washington Post article below discusses.


From the Washington Post --

In all, the bill would take away $522 billion that is scheduled to be injected into local economies across the country.

“The majority of the government spending is creating jobs and manufacturing capacity in red states,” said Jason Bordoff, the founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University. “So this puts Republicans, generally and now in the Senate, in the position of having to choose whether to support the party line or maintain support for government programs that are creating a lot of economic activity in their states.”

The measure — branded by Trump as the One Big Beautiful Bill — would rapidly phase out billions of dollars of tax incentives contained in the Inflation Reduction Act, which Congress passed in 2022. Some of the tax credits would end as soon as this year. The bill also slows the shift to electric vehicles by eliminating a tax credit of up to $7,500 for their purchase.

To pass it, Trump will need votes from Senate Republicans who have championed the green subsidies in their home states.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina), one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection next year, suggested Thursday that he would push for a slower phaseout of the clean energy subsidies. An immediate phaseout, he said, would “have a chilling effect” on “future investments” in the domestic energy sector.

“For companies that have made major capital deployment decisions, we need to respect that or people are going to start thinking that the United States has massive changes in policy every two years in this space, and that will be devastating to the U.S.’s current position as the innovation leader,” he said. “We’ve got to maintain that position.”

The subsidies have sparked billions of dollars’ worth of projects nationwide, but a Washington Post analysis last year found that most of the investments are flowing to red states.

In Tillis’s home state of North Carolina, the law has helped attract $23 billion in investment, according to data compiled by Atlas Public Policy and Utah State University. Forty-seven new facilities in the state — including a massive Toyota battery plant — could create about 20,000 new jobs, the data shows.

Now, analysts and advocates say, such projects could collapse or relocate abroad. The cuts also threaten the stability of the power grid, which is heavily reliant on solar and wind power.

“If this bill becomes law, America will effectively surrender the AI race to China and communities nationwide will face blackouts,” said Abigail Ross Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association, one of many groups lobbying the Senate to change course.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/23/senate-clean-energy-tax-credits/

If that's true....IM2.... You should be happy!
Why are you complaining? Do you live in a red state? Are you a closet Republican?

 

[justoffal]

solar is installed out in the desert

The chat fails to include the government subsidies. The numbers are meaningless without that.

 

[leftwinger]

They love Elon + EV until he helped startup DOGE & eliminate $180B in unused GOVT BS? Now EV are no good and Leon sucketh? Board Stain maggots lowIQ saps run willy nilly to feed.

 

[leftwinger]

The bill probably sucketh (per Leon) because it funds BS that was supposed to halt in USAID HHS DOGE findings political kickbacks etc.

And Stain told to quit buying Tesla so his company was temporarily being hurt. That's all this is.//

 

[Independent thinker]

Most Republicans will never admit it, but Biden's 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was a godsend for red states. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act allocated hundreds of billions of dollars for green energy projects.

These green energy jobs are now GONE...thanks to Trump's "Big, Beautiful Bill".

And most of the new green energy manufacturing projects from Biden's Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act were in red states. Hundreds of thousands of good paying manufacturing jobs in the high-tech green energy field....GONE, overnight.

Overall, the "Big, Beautiful Bill" hurts red states more than blue states.

I thought Trump wanted to bring manufacturing back to this country with his stupid ****ing tariffs? Instead, this bill does the exact opposite. MAGA rubes....this is how Trump helps the working class???

Now, some Republican Senators such as Thom Tillis (R-NC) are greatly concerned about this, as the Washington Post article below discusses.


From the Washington Post --

In all, the bill would take away $522 billion that is scheduled to be injected into local economies across the country.

“The majority of the government spending is creating jobs and manufacturing capacity in red states,” said Jason Bordoff, the founding director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University. “So this puts Republicans, generally and now in the Senate, in the position of having to choose whether to support the party line or maintain support for government programs that are creating a lot of economic activity in their states.”

The measure — branded by Trump as the One Big Beautiful Bill — would rapidly phase out billions of dollars of tax incentives contained in the Inflation Reduction Act, which Congress passed in 2022. Some of the tax credits would end as soon as this year. The bill also slows the shift to electric vehicles by eliminating a tax credit of up to $7,500 for their purchase.

To pass it, Trump will need votes from Senate Republicans who have championed the green subsidies in their home states.

Sen. Thom Tillis (R-North Carolina), one of the most vulnerable senators up for reelection next year, suggested Thursday that he would push for a slower phaseout of the clean energy subsidies. An immediate phaseout, he said, would “have a chilling effect” on “future investments” in the domestic energy sector.

“For companies that have made major capital deployment decisions, we need to respect that or people are going to start thinking that the United States has massive changes in policy every two years in this space, and that will be devastating to the U.S.’s current position as the innovation leader,” he said. “We’ve got to maintain that position.”

The subsidies have sparked billions of dollars’ worth of projects nationwide, but a Washington Post analysis last year found that most of the investments are flowing to red states.

In Tillis’s home state of North Carolina, the law has helped attract $23 billion in investment, according to data compiled by Atlas Public Policy and Utah State University. Forty-seven new facilities in the state — including a massive Toyota battery plant — could create about 20,000 new jobs, the data shows.

Now, analysts and advocates say, such projects could collapse or relocate abroad. The cuts also threaten the stability of the power grid, which is heavily reliant on solar and wind power.

“If this bill becomes law, America will effectively surrender the AI race to China and communities nationwide will face blackouts,” said Abigail Ross Hopper, president and CEO of the Solar Energy Industries Association, one of many groups lobbying the Senate to change course.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/05/23/senate-clean-energy-tax-credits/

What's really funny is that you guys think that by posting this nonsense, red states will regret voting for Trump and will vote blue next time.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What's really funny is that you guys think that by posting this nonsense, red states will regret voting for Trump and will vote blue next time.

.

That's it.

Do they actually think we're buying their bullshit?


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[Independent thinker]

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That's it.

Do they actually think we're buying their bullshit?


.

Yeah. First they say we are uneducated, stupid, brain washed, garbage, deplorable, cultist MAGAs, and then they think they can convince us to vote blue with their threads. That doesn't even make sense. If they really think we are brain washed cultist deplorables, then they are the stupid ones for thinking they can change our minds.

I also love how they keep on saying Trump will take democracy and elections away but then they are looking forward to 2026 and 2028. Anyone on the outside looking in would obviously see they are the stupid cultists.

 

[justoffal]

What's really funny is that you guys think that by posting this nonsense, red states will regret voting for Trump and will vote blue next time.

Oh don't worry they'll run around and find half a dozen people who swear they voted for Trump and will never vote for him again. ( Probably bullshit) Then based on those two, three or four voters out of 80 million they'll try to establish a pattern showing that Trump's support is crashing and then back it up with some phony polls bought and paid for just for the purpose.

They may even dust off Lawrence O'Donnell and have him vituperate verbal diarrhea all over the screen!

Oh goody how entertaining!

 

[justoffal]

Yeah. First they say we are uneducated, stupid, brain washed, garbage, deplorable, cultist MAGAs, and then they think they can convince us to vote blue with their threads. That doesn't even make sense. If they really think we are brain washed cultist deplorables, then they are the stupid ones for thinking they can change our minds.

I also love how they keep on saying Trump will take democracy and elections away but then they are looking forward to 2026 and 2028. Anyone on the outside looking in would obviously see they are the stupid cultists.

If Lefty isn't busy hating something he's not happy.

 

[Jim H - VA USA]

Most Republicans will never admit it, but Biden's 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act was a godsend for red states. The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act allocated hundreds of billions of dollars for green energy projects.

Since 1. most of the US by far is Red, 2. there are not many "green energy" power plants in cities,
this is not surprising.

"More than two-thirds of renewable capacity can be found in mostly rural districts — and more than three-quarters of those lean Republican"

https://archive.is/b5qFb#selection-5813.0-5813.138

No need to waste money on a "green energy" social welfare project that will increase rates and add more unreliable power to the grid.