Billiejeens
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And, yet, here you are with nothing but Biden on the brain.
It's called "being owned."
It's not
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And, yet, here you are with nothing but Biden on the brain.
It's called "being owned."
Obstruction?How about obstruction?
As noted, read the FULL mueller report.
And yet, here you are, still with Biden on the brain.It's not
Justification for obstruction of justice? Please show me that exception in any legal reference.Obstruction?
If Trump did obstruct which is questionable he had damn good reason.
Every FBI agent mentioned in Horowitz report on Trump-Russia probe subject to disciplinary action
FBI Director Christopher A. Wray said on Tuesday that every FBI employee referenced in a scathing Justice Department Inspector General report on the origins of the infamous Trump-Russia probe has been referred for discipline.www.washingtontimes.com
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Inspector General Michael E. Horowitz in 2019 issued a damning assessment of the FBI’s actions during the early stages of the Russia collusion probe. It concluded that FBIemployees withheld or doctored evidence to obtain a surveillance warrant for a Trump campaign official.
Mr. Horowitz also concluded that surveillance applications submitted to a court to obtain the warrants were riddled with errors and shoddy work.
The report said the FBI failed to adhere “to its own standards of accuracy and completeness” when it filed applications under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to monitor former Trump campaign aide Carter Page.
Plus there are good arguments to show that Trump didn’t obstruct Mueller.
Nolte: Mueller Report Proves Trump Did Not Obstruct Justice | Breitbart
The Mueller Report proves President Donald Trump is innocent of Russian collusion and of obstructing justice.www.breitbart.com
Once again we have a double standard, Hillary can obstruct justice everyday and Sunday and waltz away scot-free. High level Democrats are TOTALLY above the rule of law.
Ryan: Hillary obviously obstructed justice
hotair.com
Hillary Clinton emails obstruction of justice in Travelgate inquiry, Independent Counsel Robert Ray final report January 5, 2001, Appendix 3 the White House’s non compliance with subpoena requests for electronically maintained documents
Hillary Clinton emails obstruction of justice in Travelgate inquiry, Independent Counsel Robert Ray final report January 5, 2001, Appendix 3 the White House’s non compliance with subpoena req…citizenwells.com
Hillary Clinton lies obstruction of justice documented in legal documents and NY Times article, Senate whitewater report, Independent counsel Robert W. Ray statement June 22, 2000, NY Times January 8, 1996 Hillary blizzard of lies
Hillary Clinton lies obstruction of justice documented in legal documents and NY Times article, Senate whitewater report, Independent counsel Robert W. Ray statement June 22, 2000, NY Times January…citizenwells.com
You will notice I said “If Trump did obstruct which is questionable he had damn good reason.”Justification for obstruction of justice? Please show me that exception in any legal reference.
AND
Rather than get your stuff from crapholes like Breitbart, hotair, and whatever citizenwells is why not try someplace without the lies and crap:
DocumentCloud
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You will notice I said “If Trump did obstruct which is questionable he had damn good reason.”
I didn’t say Trump obstructed.
But considering the number of improper tactics the FBI used while investigating him Trump should have the right to obstruct.
IG Report: Comey Lied To Congress About FBI Probe Of Trump Campaign
Not only did the Obama FBI target the Trump campaign in the 2016 election, but it used an intelligence briefing of Trump to gather ‘evidence’ on him.thefederalist.com
What is the LEGAL BASIS for your "damn good reason?"
Claiming the FBI's tactics were illegal does not in any source I've found, form a basis for obstruction.
Because the full Mueller report does indeed call his actions obstruction.
Will you agree the investigations of Trump and those around him were conducted in a very sloppy if not an illegal manner.What is the LEGAL BASIS for your "damn good reason?"
Claiming the FBI's tactics were illegal does not in any source I've found, form a basis for obstruction.
Because the full Mueller report does indeed call his actions obstruction.
Will you agree the investigations of Trump and those around him were conducted in a very sloppy if not an illegal manner.
FBI wiretap of Trump campaign aide was riddled with errors, but Russia probe was legally justified, IG report finds
DOJ IG Michael Horowitz's report, released Monday, says the FBI was not driven by bias against President Donald Trump in launching the Russia probe.www.usatoday.com
Once again I did not say Trump obstructed. In my opinion he had much more right to obstruct than Hillary who has obstructed any and all investigations that involved her. My opinion that Trump had a right to obstruct an improper investigations does not mean I believe Trump obstructed.
Did President Trump Obstruct Justice? That's a Tricky Question
Legal experts say it would be hard to prove "corrupt intent"time.com
While Trump’s obstruction of justice allegations are questionable Hillary‘s are flat out fragrant and yet she gets to waltz away scot-free. Just one example of many.
Hillary Wipe Server | Email Scandal | Criminal Investigation
Hillary Clinton's lawyer just revealed that she not only deleted emails subject to subpoena, the hard drive was wiped clean. Did Hillary commit a crime?legalinsurrection.com
I imagine there are a lot of parents who sent their kids to college and were aghast when they realized the fortune they paid resulted in a college graduate who advocates Marxist socialism.You ask pertinent questions, but the only outcome from those questions is----------->he/she proves themselves under informed, incompetent, and a Leftist. But when you put the 1st 2 in a sentence, all you come up with for the 3rd descriptor is Leftist, lol.
I must say though, I have spoken to many very intelligent Liberals in my time. Did not agree with most of their ideas, but their ideas were at least slightly compelling. Were it not for human nature, their take might have worked.
And yet, I have NEVER met an intelligent Far Leftist..........ever! Far Leftists are NOT Liberals, they lean more towards Socialism, and some, Communism. They are indoctrinated former college students who believed their profs were just geniuses, or uneducated workers who never went to college wanting to grasp the ole, "what is in it for me!"
If you read this post and wonder how this can be, look up speeches by Union heads on youtube to their constituents, and any free class diatribes by political science teachers in our universities with tenure. You will be aghast!
I imagine there are a lot of parents who spent a fortune to sent their kids to college and were aghast when they realized the result was a college graduate who lives in their basement, advocates Marxist socialism and is a barista at Starbucks.You ask pertinent questions, but the only outcome from those questions is----------->he/she proves themselves under informed, incompetent, and a Leftist. But when you put the 1st 2 in a sentence, all you come up with for the 3rd descriptor is Leftist, lol.
I must say though, I have spoken to many very intelligent Liberals in my time. Did not agree with most of their ideas, but their ideas were at least slightly compelling. Were it not for human nature, their take might have worked.
And yet, I have NEVER met an intelligent Far Leftist..........ever! Far Leftists are NOT Liberals, they lean more towards Socialism, and some, Communism. They are indoctrinated former college students who believed their profs were just geniuses, or uneducated workers who never went to college wanting to grasp the ole, "what is in it for me!"
If you read this post and wonder how this can be, look up speeches by Union heads on youtube to their constituents, and any free class diatribes by political science teachers in our universities with tenure. You will be aghast!
Gave you the ink. You ignored it BECAUSEYou are soooooo full of bull, lol. It does not! In most every report, it stated that "the President could NOT be exonerated on obstruction."
That is like me accusing you of robbing a bank, you can NOT prove you didn't, nor can I prove you did. So I run with..............Dadoalex must have done it, because he can't prove he did not, lololol.
No.Will you agree the investigations of Trump and those around him were conducted in a very sloppy if not an illegal manner.
FBI wiretap of Trump campaign aide was riddled with errors, but Russia probe was legally justified, IG report finds
DOJ IG Michael Horowitz's report, released Monday, says the FBI was not driven by bias against President Donald Trump in launching the Russia probe.www.usatoday.com
Once again I did not say Trump obstructed. In my opinion he had much more right to obstruct than Hillary who has obstructed any and all investigations that involved her. My opinion that Trump had a right to obstruct an improper investigations does not mean I believe Trump obstructed.
Did President Trump Obstruct Justice? That's a Tricky Question
Legal experts say it would be hard to prove "corrupt intent"time.com
While Trump’s obstruction of justice allegations are questionable Hillary‘s are flat out fragrant and yet she gets to waltz away scot-free. Just one example of many.
Hillary Wipe Server | Email Scandal | Criminal Investigation
Hillary Clinton's lawyer just revealed that she not only deleted emails subject to subpoena, the hard drive was wiped clean. Did Hillary commit a crime?legalinsurrection.com
Once again I will say I do not believe Trump obstructed Mueller.No.
I will agree that LE as LE OFTEN DOES skipped over a few rules but that is NO JUSTIFICATION FOR OBSTRUCTION.
This ain't about Hillary. Why don't you people and Hillary just get a room for god's sake?
This is about his Cheetoness and the absolute fact that the full report, not the crap pile Barr used to "exonerate" his client, clearly say Trump obstructed.
Mueller did not indict Trump BECAUSE of DoJ policy NOT because Trump was innocent.
About Trump, not Clinton.Once again I will say I do not believe Trump obstructed Mueller.
Barr: Trump Did Not Obstruct Investigation Despite Being ‘Frustrated and Angry’
Attorney General William Barr said Thursday that he and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein had determined President Trump did not obstruct Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation despite being “frustrated and angry” with a process he believed to be politically-motivated.While Mueller...news.yahoo.com
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Barr explained that the forthcoming report examines ten “episodes” in which Trump involved himself with the ongoing investigation, but suggested that those actions were understandable given Trump’s frustration with the investigation and did not evince “corrupt intent.”
“And as the special counsel’s report acknowledges, there is substantial evidence to show that the president was frustrated and angered by his sincere belief that the investigation was undermining his presidency, propelled by his political opponents, and fueled by illegal leaks,” Barr added. “Nonetheless, the White House fully cooperated with the special counsel’s investigation, providing unfettered access to campaign and White House documents, directing senior aides to testify freely, and asserting no privilege claims. And at the same time, the President took no act that in fact deprived the Special Counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation. Apart from whether the acts were obstructive, this evidence of non-corrupt motives weighs heavily against any allegation that the President had a corrupt intent to obstruct the investigation.”
I mention Hillary because one thing which really pisses a ot of people off in this nation is that fact that the rule of law does not apply equally to all. Hillary can obstruct justice because she is above the rule of law.
Hillary Clinton lies obstruction of justice documented in legal documents and NY Times article – Citizen WElls
Posts about Hillary Clinton lies obstruction of justice documented in legal documents and NY Times article written by CitizenWEllscitizenwells.com
Clinton Camp Caught Obstructing Congressional Investigation
Congress is taking unprecedented action to hold in contempt a computer company that supplied Hillary Clinton with her private email server.freebeacon.com
THEY SHOULD ALL BE IN JAIL
And while you’re at it, don’t forget Eric Holder and Lois Lerner Gregg Jarrett: Sessions should resign, but not before taking action against Clinton, Comey and Rice By Gregg Jarrett, Fo…www.ini-world-report.org
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There is strong evidence that Clinton obstructed justice. All of her emails were under a congressional subpoena. She was required to preserve and produce every single one of them. She did not. Instead, she deleted roughly 33,000 emails in defiance of the subpoena and cleansed her server of any incriminating evidence. Destruction of evidence under a lawful subpoena constitutes obstruction. Under the law, it is no excuse to claim that some of the emails were personal in nature.
“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct,” Mueller wrote.About Trump, not Clinton.
“Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations,” Mueller wrote. “The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General’s recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony.”
Mueller, however, refrained from recommending prosecution, saying that there were “difficult [legal] issues that would need to be resolved,” in order to reach a conclusion that the crime of obstruction of justice was committed by Trump.
Factoring into his decision not to weigh in on prosecution, Mueller wrote, was an opinion issued by the Office of Legal Counsel finding that “the indictment or criminal prosecution of a sitting President would impermissibly undermine the capacity of the executive branch to perform its constitutionally assigned functions” in violation of “the constitutional separation of powers.”
“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct,” Mueller wrote.
Mueller emphasized, however, that his analysis of the evidence did not clear the president of obstruction. Said Mueller: “f we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment.”
Excerpted from the report.
Of course it sounds that way to you. After all, you're a YUGE supported of Trump's criminality.“Because we determined not to make a traditional prosecutorial judgment, we did not draw ultimate conclusions about the President’s conduct,” Mueller wrote.
Sounds to me like he was just blowing wind and he knew it.
Newly Released OLC Memo Shows Staff Lawyers Found No Basis For Obstruction Charges In Mueller Report
The long-awaited, though partial, release of a memorandum from the Justice Department this week left many “frustrated,” as predicted by the Washington Post, in Washington. The reason is what it did…jonathanturley.org
The long-awaited, though partial, release of a memorandum from the Justice Department this week left many “frustrated,” as predicted by the Washington Post, in Washington. The reason is what it did not contain. Critics had sought the memo as the “smoking gun” to show how former Attorney General Bill Barr scuttled any obstruction charges against Donald Trump. Instead, the memo showed the opposite. The staff of the OLC actually found that the allegations did not meet the standard of obstruction even without any defenses or privileges related to Trump’s office.
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It turns out that the review and debate over the obstruction allegations began before Barr started as Attorney General. The memo also confirms that the Mueller staff was part of that analysis with career prosecutors at Main Justice. The memo states that the prosecutors reviewed the Mueller evidence and concluded that the evidence “examined by the Special Counsel could not, as a matter of law, support an obstruction charge under the circumstances. Accordingly, were there no constitutional barriers, we would recommend, under the Principles of Federal Prosecution, that you decline to commence such a prosecution.” In plain English, that means that the prosecutors came to the same conclusion as Barr that the alleged conduct did not satisfy the elements of this crime. Moreover, it stated that it would reject such a charge even without consideration of any constitutional barriers presented by Trump’s office.
Yes, we do have different opinions on Trump.Of course it sounds that way to you. After all, you're a YUGE supported of Trump's criminality.
In contemplating the pay-to-play corruption, nowhere has there ever been as much evident and overt financial filth under the color of the White House as there has been in the Biden orbit. Some day, perhaps in another era, someone will look back when there no longer is a Left to cover up Biden nonfeasance, malfeasance, and misfeasance. Someday, the entire story will come out: Biden’s lifetime of manipulating White assembly-line Rust Belt union workers, playing them for dummies, and posing as a working-class stiff from Scranton who rides the trains. Give the guy his due: In one solitary area of life, Biden truly figured out and discovered the color of his parachute, the one and only area where he really does excel: making wealthy people of nuclear family mediocrities by empowering and enabling them to leverage his government roles to gain them insider access to millions. George Neumayr has written on it. So has Peter Schweizer. But there always is more because, for the Bidens — especially Hunter — it is never enough.
SPECTATOR?????Yes, we do have different opinions on Trump.
I view Trump as an outsider who made an honest attempt to clean up the Swamp in our Capitol and found it was far deeper and nasty than he believed.
Trump did a lot of good for this nation which Joe Biden is busy destroying today.
In my opinion it is Joe Biden who is a criminal as he sold his influence as a Senator and as a VP for profit. You will probably disagree and say Joe is as honest as George Washington and has devoted his entire life to bettering the United States.
You have every right to your opinion just as I have to mine.
Joe Biden: The Most Corrupt President Since Warren Harding - The American Spectator | USA News and PoliticsThe American Spectator | USA News and Politics
The headlines about the massive griftocracy that is the Biden family are ramping up.spectator.org
The headlines about the massive griftocracy that is the Biden family are ramping up.
No less than former President Donald Trump cited the American Spectator piece, “Arrangement in Hunter Green,” penned by the inimitable Dov Fischer.
In the article, Dov says, among other very pointed reveals, this:
I try my best not to hate anyone but I have to admit Democrats make that difficult.SPECTATOR?????
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why not just use "IHATEALLDEMS.SHIT?"
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA