Trump supporter are lefties. And they don't even know it.

[Oddball]

The CINO's and liberals in the House and Senate leadership won't allow a fiscal or constitutional conservative to rise up into the leadership ranks. People like Amash, Massie, Chip Roy or Mike Lee will always be held back.
Why? Because they don't lean left enough. They're not owned by lobbyist. They oppose things that have ruined this country. While the likes of Trump, McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer and 90% of the others, continue to push this country left.
And the thing that makes this complete absurd, is the fact that GOP voters, most of them, don't even realize it.

Like Holy friggin hell, people... $500 billion to black communities, passed by republicans and democrats, and the republican voters don't say a word about it?
Oh but if it were Biden or Obama, they'd be screaming their heads off at the racism or socialism that's attached to that. This is why I firmly believe that Trump supporters are blind as to how far to the left Trump took them. And those that do know, ain't saying anything because they're brainwashed into defending Trump at all cost.

For what? So the country doesn't start leaning left? FFS, the country and the RNC is leaning so far left, we may not be able to even stand up straight anymore. The RNC chairman is Mitt Romney's niece, for crying out loud.

They wouldn't allow a guy who is basically a 1980s democrat to remain as president....Why is that?

While I do agree that many of Trump's policies were decidedly leftist/authoritarian, the permanent bureaucratic/politcal calss, and their media sycophants, still hate him and kneecapped his every effort at governing....Why is that?

Care to answer my honest questions, rather than running away?

 

[Oddball]

Serious question for the Trump supporters:

How much farther left are you willing to let Trump take you?

Serious question for the haters.

When are you going to realize that Trump is merely a totem to express how much the political class really hates you?

 

[pknopp]

They wouldn't allow a guy who is basically a 1980s democrat to remain as president....Why is that?

While I do agree that many of Trump's policies were decidedly leftist/authoritarian, the permanent bureaucratic/politcal calss, and their media sycophants, still hate him and kneecapped his every effort at governing....Why is that?

Care to answer my honest questions, rather than running away?

Because he was a dick. Sorry, despite Trump thinking you get your way by belittling and calling people names you do not.

 

[Mac-7]

And it was going on while Trump was in office.

One of us seems to think Trump is God and it isnt me

Trump fought with swamp rats in both parties over illegal aliens and they mostly won

But he did walk the walk

 

[Cellblock2429]

LMAO.. Sounds like Trump supporters are trying to turn it into a "democrats are bad" thread. Most of us already know this. The disconnect comes from Trump supporters who don't know how far left Trump is and how far left he's taking his supporters.

/——-/ I gotta hand it to you. Your Trump hatred rants are unique. Reminds me of libs in 2010 claiming they were voting for the true conservative, Obama. Yours is a bit better.

 

[Oddball]

Because he was a dick. Sorry, despite Trump thinking you get your way by belittling and calling people names you do not.

Obama is a dick....Hillary is a dick....Schumer is a dick....McConnel is a dick.....Pelosi is a dick.....Every one of the smarmy ***** that have gone before congress and lied out their asses are dicks.

"Our betters" belittle the hoi polloy each and every day of the week....Part of Trump's appeal to the regular schmoe is that he doesn't take any shit off those dicks....Why is that so hard for you pearl clutchers to recognize?

 

[surada]

This is a serious question to those of you who still support Trump.

Let's lay a few leftist issues that Trump is guilty of, first.

1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)
2. Funded Gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan. (Appropriations bills that he signed)
3. Notched our 2A with his bump stock ban. (and don't say it was no big deal, because if Obama or Biden had done it, you'd be screaming your bloody heads off.
4. His socialist Platinum Plan, that gave $500 BILLION to black communities, just because they were black communities. That equates to over $100,000 for ever black man, woman and child in America. You're against reparations, but not against that socialist crap?
5. $6.7 trillion in new spending, in just 4 years.

I could list a dozen of these. And I have listed them somewhere on this forum. But the bottom line is, Trump has taken his supporters so far passed left of center, I don't think you people can even see center anymore. You've forgotten what being right of center meant. In the past 6 years, y'all been so caught up in defending him, sympathizing with him, feeling sorry for him and dividing yourself from fiscal and constitutional conservatives, that you think we're the ones standing left of center.

We, the fiscal and constitutional conservatives are still far right of center. We're still in the same place we was when we were bashing Clinton, W Bush & Obama. And Romney and McCain for that matter. We haven't moved.
But you people jumped on the Trump train and got dumped off on the left side and you don't even realize it.

I seriously don't mean this as an insult. And I apologize if it comes off that way. But honestly, it's like this is the only way to address you Trump supporters. Y'all are as bad as the radical progressives, when trying to talk some conservative sense into you.

You should look up the Hyde Amendment.

Access Denied: Origins of the Hyde Amendment and Other Restrictions on Public Funding for Abortion | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

 

[pknopp]

Obama is a dick....Hillary is a dick....Schumer is a dick....McConnel is a dick.....Pelosi is a dick.....Every one of the smarmy ***** that have gone before congress and lied out their asses are dicks.

And I have no use for any of them. They do know how to get things done though.

"Our betters" belittle the hoi polloy each and every day of the week....Part of Trump's appeal to the regular schmoe is that he doesn't take any shit off those dicks....Why is that so hard for you pearl clutchers to recognize?

He took it all.

 

[YoursTruly]

Obama is a dick....Hillary is a dick....Schumer is a dick....McConnel is a dick.....Pelosi is a dick.....Every one of the smarmy ***** that have gone before congress and lied out their asses are dicks.

"Our betters" belittle the hoi polloy each and every day of the week....Part of Trump's appeal to the regular schmoe is that he doesn't take any shit off those dicks....Why is that so hard for you pearl clutchers to recognize?

Trump caved to Pelosi's every whim. Every single time.

 

[Oddball]

And I have no use for any of them. They do know how to get things done though.

If our state of affairs today is "getting things done" we'd be better off if the actual Mafia were running the nation.

He took it all.

I don't even know what the **** that's supposed to mean.

 

[YoursTruly]

You should look up the Hyde Amendment.

Access Denied: Origins of the Hyde Amendment and Other Restrictions on Public Funding for Abortion | American Civil Liberties Union

www.aclu.org

Are you serious? Money can be funneled anywhere. During Trumps term, PP got about $800 million (IIRC), Obviously they're not going to show on paper that any of it went to abortions. But it's all the same money, in the same account, used to pay for what ever they wanted it to pay for. Just not on paper.

 

[Oddball]

Trump caved to Pelosi's every whim. Every single time.

And?....I've already stipulated that you're correct about his lefty policies.

Now answer my question: despite all of that, why is it the permanent political class, and their media buttbois, still hate him to the point that they're trying to destroy his entire life?

 

[YoursTruly]

If our state of affairs today is "getting things done" we'd be better off if the actual Mafia were running the nation.

They are. It's just a legal mafia called the Republicans and Democrats.

I don't even know what the **** that's supposed to mean.

It means that Trump and those people were in bed with each other. They only played enemies on TV.

 

[pknopp]

If our state of affairs today is "getting things done" we'd be better off if the actual Mafia were running the nation.

No argument from me there but they got it done.

I don't even know what the **** that's supposed to mean.

All he could do is sit around his bedroom at night calling people names on Twitter until even that was taken from him and he could do little.

 

[Oddball]

They are. It's just a legal mafia called the Republicans and Democrats.

The real Mafia doesn't pretend that they're doing things for your best benefits or condescend to you about the cheeeeeeldrennnnn.

It means that Trump and those people were in bed with each other. They only played enemies on TV.

Riiiiight....And they're only playing enemies right now, as they try to ruin his life to this very day.

 

[Oddball]

All he could do is sit around his bedroom at night calling people names on Twitter until even that was taken from him and he could do little.

So ******* what?

You still refuse to get it through your thick skull that not taking any shit off these overstuffed assholes was and is a big part of why his voters get behind him....Why is that?

 

[YoursTruly]

And?....I've already stipulated that you're correct about his lefty policies.

Now answer my question: despite all of that, why is it the permanent political class, and their media buttbois, still hate him to the point that they're trying to destroy his entire life?

If I knew, so would you. It could just be an ego thing. Who knows? Maybe Trump thought he was going to be a bigger swamp creature than them, and they're proving him wrong.
But Trump's not going to expose the real corruption in DC because he wants to be the leader of it.

That's only a guess. Because guessing is all we can do. But there are signs.

FFS, he wouldn't even release the JFK files that were supposed to be released back in 2017. Nor would he pardon Assange and Snowden.

 

[pknopp]

So ******* what?

You still refuse to get it through your thick skull that not taking any shit off these overstuffed assholes was and is a big part of why his voters get behind him....Why is that?

He played you.

 

[Mac-7]

All he could do is sit around his bedroom at night calling people names on Twitter until even that was taken from him and he could do little.

Thats true

The washington establishment swamp rats isolated trump in the white house and prevented him from doing the things he was elected to do

Trump voters were cheated by repubs and dems

 

[pknopp]

If I knew, so would you. It could just be an ego thing. Who knows? Maybe Trump thought he was going to be a bigger swamp creature than them, and they're proving him wrong.
But Trump's not going to expose the real corruption in DC because he wants to be the leader of it.

That's only a guess. Because guessing is all we can do. But there are signs.

FFS, he wouldn't even release the JFK files that were supposed to be released back in 2017. Nor would he pardon Assange and Snowden.

Yep......Lindsey told him he wasn't going to do that and he didn't.