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/——-/ What’s your “excuse” for Dementia Joe’s reckless spending?
All he has to do is veto all spending bills and the government shuts down. More of the Same: US Government Starts Fiscal 2023 With a Big Budget Deficit | SGT Report
Prior to the 2016 election I was pretty disgusted with Trump's supporters and their unwavering sycophantic support of him. I pointed out exactly that along with videos of him declaring to Larry King that he was a democrat. I didn't believe he was truly working to defeat that sociopath hag hitlary, that he would get anything built on the border or accomplish anything much at all if he did win in spite of himself and the media.Trump was a big donor to the Democratic Party until Obama ran for President, and was good friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton, so those that voted and will vote for Trump need to realize he is part of the swamp!
Prior to the 2016 election I was pretty disgusted with Trump's supporters and their unwavering sycophantic support of him. I pointed out exactly that along with videos of him declaring to Larry King that he was a democrat. I didn't believe he was truly working to defeat that sociopath hag hitlary, that he would get anything built on the border or accomplish anything much at all if he did win in spite of himself and the media.
Well Lo and Behold, The World's Richest Professional Clown did defeat the hag. That's when I changed my mind about him. He did get some barrier built on the border and although millions of people got in during his tenure, he did appear to be trying to control the problem. He did roll back a lot of the regressive and detrimental regulations of that meat puppet faggot obozo. He put the bullshit climate hoax on pause, confronted several foreign issues correctly IMO and I ended up being a zealot myself largely because of the unbelievable aggression he faced from the very government he was supposed to be the CEO of. I disagree with you that he was "part of the swamp". He had to pay for protection just like anyone who has much money at all. The incredible hatred the left continues to demonstrate for him is why I still like him.
That said a fuckton of tax money was pissed away, he caved to the inane COVID hoax and allowed the hysterical over reaction to suspend all logic and common sense. He did not purge DC of nanny statist authoritarian filth. He was no champion for the 2A either, although I never did expect him to be. I'm actually glad all he did was ban those stupid bump stocks.
I would have loved it if he won the 2020 election and I remain convinced he legitimately defeated the potato. It was total fraud that put a doddering jabbering imbecile hiding in a basement in the WH. Now that it's all history I hope we move on and that DeSantis or someone else can put us back on course, otherwise lets just elect AOC and crash the fuckin boat already.
This is a serious question to those of you who still support Trump.
Let's lay a few leftist issues that Trump is guilty of, first.
1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)
2. Funded Gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan. (Appropriations bills that he signed)
3. Notched our 2A with his bump stock ban. (and don't say it was no big deal, because if Obama or Biden had done it, you'd be screaming your bloody heads off.
4. His socialist Platinum Plan, that gave $500 BILLION to black communities, just because they were black communities. That equates to over $100,000 for ever black man, woman and child in America. You're against reparations, but not against that socialist crap?
5. $6.7 trillion in new spending, in just 4 years.
I could list a dozen of these. And I have listed them somewhere on this forum. But the bottom line is, Trump has taken his supporters so far passed left of center, I don't think you people can even see center anymore. You've forgotten what being right of center meant. In the past 6 years, y'all been so caught up in defending him, sympathizing with him, feeling sorry for him and dividing yourself from fiscal and constitutional conservatives, that you think we're the ones standing left of center.
We, the fiscal and constitutional conservatives are still far right of center. We're still in the same place we was when we were bashing Clinton, W Bush & Obama. And Romney and McCain for that matter. We haven't moved.
But you people jumped on the Trump train and got dumped off on the left side and you don't even realize it.
I seriously don't mean this as an insult. And I apologize if it comes off that way. But honestly, it's like this is the only way to address you Trump supporters. Y'all are as bad as the radical progressives, when trying to talk some conservative sense into you.
/——-/ Because it’s useless. Congress can override it. That’s my point. The president doesn’t have a line item veto, and if he doesn’t sign, the government shuts down.Excuse? I've condemned it.
I condemned his plan to bail out retirement funds just the other day.
You want to condemn me for something you are unable to do yourself.
I'd love him to veto the spending bill. He will never do it but neither did Trump.
You hate his personalityI hate tramp, i think he is despicable. The more people get to know him ..... the unpopular he is.
/——-/ Because it’s useless. Congress can override it. That’s my point. The president doesn’t have a line item veto, and if he doesn’t sign, the government shuts down.
It’s like this, a drug addict robs you to buy some meth. Are you then responsible for promoting drug use?
So the Overton window has been dragged so far to the left that Trump looks like a reactionary to the average nincompoop....What else is new?This is a serious question to those of you who still support Trump.
Let's lay a few leftist issues that Trump is guilty of, first.
1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)
2. Funded Gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan. (Appropriations bills that he signed)
3. Notched our 2A with his bump stock ban. (and don't say it was no big deal, because if Obama or Biden had done it, you'd be screaming your bloody heads off.
4. His socialist Platinum Plan, that gave $500 BILLION to black communities, just because they were black communities. That equates to over $100,000 for ever black man, woman and child in America. You're against reparations, but not against that socialist crap?
5. $6.7 trillion in new spending, in just 4 years.
I could list a dozen of these. And I have listed them somewhere on this forum. But the bottom line is, Trump has taken his supporters so far passed left of center, I don't think you people can even see center anymore. You've forgotten what being right of center meant. In the past 6 years, y'all been so caught up in defending him, sympathizing with him, feeling sorry for him and dividing yourself from fiscal and constitutional conservatives, that you think we're the ones standing left of center.
We, the fiscal and constitutional conservatives are still far right of center. We're still in the same place we was when we were bashing Clinton, W Bush & Obama. And Romney and McCain for that matter. We haven't moved.
But you people jumped on the Trump train and got dumped off on the left side and you don't even realize it.
I seriously don't mean this as an insult. And I apologize if it comes off that way. But honestly, it's like this is the only way to address you Trump supporters. Y'all are as bad as the radical progressives, when trying to talk some conservative sense into you.
/——/ Fake News. The president has no authority to spend one thin dime.So let them over ride it. At least you did the right thing and they are responsible for it, not you. What good is a veto if you aren't going to use it?
But this is simply an excuse and we both understand that.
7.8 trillion in new debt under Trump in 4 years.
/——/ Fake News. The president has no authority to spend one thin dime.
/——-/ So, if a Republican president vetoes a budget and Congress can’t override, and refuses negotiations, you’re OK with the economy and national defense shutting down forever? You won’t call him out or accuse him of starving children, forcing Federal employees to become homeless, and causing the elderly to go without their meds? You’ll defend him against the media and fellow democrats? You’re down with that? WOWZA.Not a single dime gets spent unless he signs off on it just the same as any Congressperson. Not a dime gets spent unless a majority sign off on it.
You're a gd liar.This is a serious question to those of you who still support Trump.
Let's lay a few leftist issues that Trump is guilty of, first.
1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)
2. Funded Gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan. (Appropriations bills that he signed)
3. Notched our 2A with his bump stock ban. (and don't say it was no big deal, because if Obama or Biden had done it, you'd be screaming your bloody heads off.
4. His socialist Platinum Plan, that gave $500 BILLION to black communities, just because they were black communities. That equates to over $100,000 for ever black man, woman and child in America. You're against reparations, but not against that socialist crap?
5. $6.7 trillion in new spending, in just 4 years.
I could list a dozen of these. And I have listed them somewhere on this forum. But the bottom line is, Trump has taken his supporters so far passed left of center, I don't think you people can even see center anymore. You've forgotten what being right of center meant. In the past 6 years, y'all been so caught up in defending him, sympathizing with him, feeling sorry for him and dividing yourself from fiscal and constitutional conservatives, that you think we're the ones standing left of center.
We, the fiscal and constitutional conservatives are still far right of center. We're still in the same place we was when we were bashing Clinton, W Bush & Obama. And Romney and McCain for that matter. We haven't moved.
But you people jumped on the Trump train and got dumped off on the left side and you don't even realize it.
I seriously don't mean this as an insult. And I apologize if it comes off that way. But honestly, it's like this is the only way to address you Trump supporters. Y'all are as bad as the radical progressives, when trying to talk some conservative sense into you.
/——-/ So, if a Republican president vetoes a budget and Congress can’t override, and refuses negotiations, you’re OK with the economy and national defense shutting down forever?
You won’t call him out or accuse him of starving children, forcing Federal employees to become homeless, and causing the elderly to go without their meds? You’ll defend him against the media and fellow democrats? You’re down with that? WOWZA.
/——/ Fair enough. I’ll take your word on that.I absolutely support that. They will come to an agreement.
When Trump threatened to veto the budget I said I supported him doing it. Not that I really believed he would.
The search mechanism is lousy here but here is where I a condemned Obama for not doing it.
We already know know Trump can't rein in govt spending, so what plan do the Dems have to lower spending?
Nope. I would support him.
It's not a discussion. It's excuse making. He did not have to sign anything. He chose to.
This is a serious question to those of you who still support Trump.
Let's lay a few leftist issues that Trump is guilty of, first.
1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)
2. Funded Gender studies in Pakistan and Afghanistan. (Appropriations bills that he signed)
3. Notched our 2A with his bump stock ban. (and don't say it was no big deal, because if Obama or Biden had done it, you'd be screaming your bloody heads off.
4. His socialist Platinum Plan, that gave $500 BILLION to black communities, just because they were black communities. That equates to over $100,000 for ever black man, woman and child in America. You're against reparations, but not against that socialist crap?
5. $6.7 trillion in new spending, in just 4 years.
I could list a dozen of these. And I have listed them somewhere on this forum. But the bottom line is, Trump has taken his supporters so far passed left of center, I don't think you people can even see center anymore. You've forgotten what being right of center meant. In the past 6 years, y'all been so caught up in defending him, sympathizing with him, feeling sorry for him and dividing yourself from fiscal and constitutional conservatives, that you think we're the ones standing left of center.
We, the fiscal and constitutional conservatives are still far right of center. We're still in the same place we was when we were bashing Clinton, W Bush & Obama. And Romney and McCain for that matter. We haven't moved.
But you people jumped on the Trump train and got dumped off on the left side and you don't even realize it.
I seriously don't mean this as an insult. And I apologize if it comes off that way. But honestly, it's like this is the only way to address you Trump supporters. Y'all are as bad as the radical progressives, when trying to talk some conservative sense into you.
I have zero doubt it would be beyond your capability to understand.
I have zero doubt it would be beyond your capability to understand TRUTH
Trump haters are the most clueless creatures in politics
Trump is strongly supported by conservatives but no one said he was 100% with conservatives all the time
Yes Trump drifts left on some issues but when it counts the most he’s more than conservative enough
One example is the open border with Mexico
No other political figure is as trustworthy as he is on that issue
/----/ "1. He funded Planned Parenthood, when they were still performing abortions (appropriations bills that he signed)"
I stopped reading at your first distortion. The president had no choice but to sign the bloated spending bill, as has been discussed here many times. But you keep on spreading misinformation. It's what you do best.
"Democrats are in full attack mode because President Trump has not signed the massive government spending bill that funds federal operations and money for COVID-19 relief.
President Trump slammed the bill that combined federal spending and COVID-19 relief as a “disgrace.”
Democrats Attack Trump Over Not Signing Massive Spending and COVID-19 Relief Bill - Deneen Borelli
Democrats are in full attack mode because President Trump has not signed the massive government spendeneenborelli.com
Hold on buster. Every thinking person knows that the left is fascist.Cool story. I guess next time myself or Trump get called a “fascist” I can just point them to this thread and tell them no, in fact we are ”lefties”.
Trump was a big donor to the Democratic Party until Obama ran for President, and was good friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton, so those that voted and will vote for Trump need to realize he is part of the swamp!
