Trump Silences Dissent in the Military

[Vrenn]

You're just making shit up.

Over 35 years of federal service tells me you're full of shit.

Over 20 years of Military Service tells me you are even dumber than your Orange Cheeto recognizes.

 

[Concerned American]

Yes, I have, and, yes, I did. Nothing can be conceived on an oath to the man, only to the office. If he mishandles the office, the oath is not valid or binding.

Sorry, that's not your call. He is the elected commander in chief. His lawful orders must be followed, whether you like it or not.

 

[fncceo]

TACO is now trying to get all Military Personnel to either give an oath supporting just him (this is extremely treason giving him full control to use the military any way he sees fit including firing on Americans on American Soil) I am retired Military and find this.......very impeachable.

Trump Silences Dissent in the Military​

 

[mudwhistle]

Over 20 years of Military Service tells me you are even dumber than your Orange Cheeto recognizes.

I sometimes wonder why somebody could serve in the military and come away thinking the way you do.

Usually they fall withing 3 groups. They're either a minority, a female, or gay.

It's one thing to be against war. But being against America while serving just boggles my mind.

Usually the people that think like you spent all of their military career behind a desk.
Not out in the field risking his or her life.

And to be honest....I know you're a liar....because if you spent over 20 years in the military you should know about showing disrespect to your commander in chief around other members of the military.
You're liable to get clocked by somebody who takes offense, or get put on report for insubordination.

 

[Vrenn]

I sometimes wonder why somebody could serve in the military and come away thinking the way you do.

Usually they fall withing 3 groups. They're either a minority, a female, or gay.

It's one thing to be against war. But being against America while serving just boggles my mind.

Usually the people that think like you spent all of their military career behind a desk.
Not out in the field risking his or her life.

And to be honest....I know you're a liar....because if you spent over 20 years in the military you should know about showing disrespect to your commander in chief around other members of the military.
You're liable to get clocked by somebody who takes offense, or get put on report for insubordination.

WE had a way to do this correctly. When in Uniform or at a public forum, we didn't say one way or another. We were Apolitical. Are you saying that we, in the Military, enjoyed have Ford or Carter as President? One cost us a war and other cost us lives. But when we were no in public, we did discuss things and Presidents.

Now, how about the disrespect that the Orange Cheeto Taco has shown the Military. You still don't get the message. Yes, you are a card carrying MAGAt who tRump depends on being so ill informed that you appear to be stupid. Good job.

 

[mudwhistle]

WE had a way to do this correctly. When in Uniform or at a public forum, we didn't say one way or another. We were Apolitical. Are you saying that we, in the Military, enjoyed have Ford or Carter as President? One cost us a war and other cost us lives. But when we were no in public, we did discuss things and Presidents.

Now, how about the disrespect that the Orange Cheeto Taco has shown the Military. You still don't get the message. Yes, you are a card carrying MAGAt who tRump depends on being so ill informed that you appear to be stupid. Good job.

The disrespect you talk about is a hoax.
The difference between you and me is I don't buy into the lies they're constantly dishing out to us.

And I was in the military under both Carter and Ford.
Back then who was president didn't effect our lives like it does today.
I didn't like being in the military under Carter because he gutted the military, but we just learned to deal with it.
At least Carter wasn't a fcking communist like Obama.
You could tell he still loved America.
Can't say the same thing about Obama/Biden.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Sorry, that's not your call. He is the elected commander in chief. His lawful orders must be followed, whether you like it or not.

That is the call of every individual in the military. No one must obey illegal orders. It is the obligation of the person to defend it in court-martial.

Concerned American and mudwhistle and their ilk have their opinions on what is a lawful order. But Trump's order is not carte blanche in the matter.

 

[Concerned American]

But Trump's order is not carte blanche in the matter.

Tell me the last time you were given or heard of another service member being given a direct order from the president. By the time it reaches your lowly ass it has gone through at least three levels of the chain of command so, No, it is not your call, donkey.

 

[Mr Natural]

Military men and women love President Trump.

Yeah, the soldiers looked thrilled to be marching in His birthday parade.

 

[Blaster]

Yeah, the soldiers looked thrilled to be marching in His birthday parade.

They were very happy and waving at the crowd.

 

[Concerned American]

They were very happy and waving at the crowd.

LOL, except at boot camp graduation, I can't think of a time that I ever smiled while in formation.

 

[Papageorgio]

TACO is now trying to get all Military Personnel to either give an oath supporting just him (this is extremely treason giving him full control to use the military any way he sees fit including firing on Americans on American Soil) I am retired Military and find this.......very impeachable.

Trump Silences Dissent in the Military​

Thanks for the laugh

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Tell me the last time you were given or heard of another service member being given a direct order from the president. By the time it reaches your lowly ass it has gone through at least three levels of the chain of command so, No, it is not your call, donkey.

Sure, it is. You can obey or not.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

They were very happy and waving at the crowd.

Four out of 2,000.

 

[Concerned American]

Sure, it is. You can obey or not.

You can also be charged and jailed for treason. So much for the integrity of a democrat's word, eh?

 

[martybegan]

Yes, I have, and, yes, I did. Nothing can be conceived on an oath to the man, only to the office. If he mishandles the office, the oath is not valid or binding.

You don't get to criticize superior officers or civilian leaders valid legal actions.

Of course you twats pretend all his actions are "illegal"

 

[martybegan]

That is the call of every individual in the military. No one must obey illegal orders. It is the obligation of the person to defend it in court-martial.

Concerned American and mudwhistle and their ilk have their opinions on what is a lawful order. But Trump's order is not carte blanche in the matter.

"Orders or views I don't like" aren't illegal.

 

[mudwhistle]

That is the call of every individual in the military. No one must obey illegal orders. It is the obligation of the person to defend it in court-martial.

Concerned American and mudwhistle and their ilk have their opinions on what is a lawful order. But Trump's order is not carte blanche in the matter.

You cannot just up and decide you're not going to follow a lawful order because your brainwashing turned you into a *****.
You have to follow lawful orders from your officers and NCOs.....and you cannot tell the president that just because you're a GD Democrat you don't have to follow his orders.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You can also be charged and jailed for treason. So much for the integrity of a democrat's word, eh?

I am not following that. You would be charged with disobeying a lawful order (Article 92, UCMJ.)

"That would be Article 92 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). It covers the failure to obey lawful orders or regulations, and it's one of the most commonly cited articles in military discipline.

Under Article 92, a service member can be punished if they:

1. Violate or fail to obey a lawful general order or regulation,
2. Knowingly disobey any other lawful order issued by a member of the armed forces, or
3. Are derelict in the performance of their duties.

The consequences can range from non-judicial punishment to court-martial, depending on the severity of the offense"