trump says Zelensky does not need to be in the negotiation. He "hild no card

Trump has to deal with Putin to end Biden's war in Ukraine. Why does that come as a shock to the TDS left? You almost have to laugh that democrats once supported FDR's friendship with Stalin. Still do.
 
As long as they have US money to back them. :eusa_whistle:
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Being allies is a two-way street ... Not just sending us a laundry list of demands.
Europe is in danger ... But won't commit to the same degree they expect from the United States.

And ... If that's the way they are going to handle it ... And cannot decide whether to shit or get off the pot ...
We'll decide for them ... :thup:

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Z will tell Trump that if he is not at the meetings there will be no rare earth metals deal with the US.

Ukraine will go to the European Union or, even, China.
 
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I would ask you where you read that ... But it is evident you don't even read the articles you post ...
And just make shit up ... Hence the thread where we are having this discussion ... :thup:

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He rants about sinking electric boats and sharks. He stopped speaking for over 40-MInutes and swayed to music. And the same measure, you people 'Senile Joe' and had no proof. Don't bitch about same of shit that did coming back at you. Joe Biden rolled ReNaziKlans on the Debt Ceiling (Felon47 INCREASED THE DEBT CEILING!!).
 
He rants about sinking electric boats and sharks. He stopped speaking for over 40-MInutes and swayed to music. And the same measure, you people 'Senile Joe' and had no proof. Don't bitch about same of shit that did coming back at you. Joe Biden rolled ReNaziKlans on the Debt Ceiling (Felon47 INCREASED THE DEBT CEILING!!).
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Please, don't ever go away. You're too much fun!






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He rants about sinking electric boats and sharks. He stopped speaking for over 40-MInutes and swayed to music. And the same measure, you people 'Senile Joe' and had no proof. Don't bitch about same of shit that did coming back at you. Joe Biden rolled ReNaziKlans on the Debt Ceiling (Felon47 INCREASED THE DEBT CEILING!!).
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Well ... You can pretend you have something worth saying.
Shit ... Get out your flag and start waving it ... Talking about Freedom and the Security of the Free World.

But back in reality ... You and the Europeans ... Look more like incels camping in Grandma's basement ...
While she is paying the bills ... And threatening to cut off your supply of Moon Pies ... :thup:

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how valid is the belief that Biden & Zelensky could have prevented Putin from invading?
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Chances of it being valid ... Zero to None ... :thup:

Hence why President Putin invaded ...
And why President Zelensky and President Biden's efforts have continuously failed to cease the war.

You should really be asking yourself ...
Just exactly what you expected out of those two folks in the first place ...
Except maybe a bunch money laundering ... Not forgetting the $billions they cannot find.

As far as beliefs go ...
I haven't ever really taken you for someone who puts a whole lot of faith in miracles before.

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I don’t think he’s very important to be at meetings, to be honest with you,” Trump said. “When Zelenskiy said, oh, he wasn’t invited to a meeting, I mean, it wasn’t a priority because he did such a bad job in negotiating so far.”

So trump lied when he said Zelenskyy would be part of the negotiation or did Putin tell him to change his tune? Which is it MAGA cult members. It is no Putin's country. It is not trump's country. It is the Ukrainian's country and they need to be at the table. trump is catering to his handler, Vladimir again. Zelensky has already said the Ukrainians will not accept a peace plan without being part of it.
How's the last three years of Zelenski negotiating gone?
trump did the same thing in Afghanistan. He brokered a peace plan with the Taliban without the government. That did not turn out well....
Psst. Gvt was involved. They folded like a tent after your demented fuckup fucked up our withdrawal.
 
Putin does not possess that territory as long as he is losing tens of thousands of troops in trying to hold it

His economy cannot sustain an indefinite occupation

He needs Ukraine to agree that he can have it

You're only concerned with Russians dying!!! You give no thought to thousands of Ukrainian deaths being sacrificed for Zelensky to remain in "power".

This is exactly why people support TRUMP ending the war, he see value to life on both sides.
 
It's such a damn shame to see we have elected a Russia First Putin shill into Office.

America really crapped the bed on November 5th.
 

I don’t think he’s very important to be at meetings, to be honest with you,” Trump said. “When Zelenskiy said, oh, he wasn’t invited to a meeting, I mean, it wasn’t a priority because he did such a bad job in negotiating so far.”

So trump lied when he said Zelenskyy would be part of the negotiation or did Putin tell him to change his tune? Which is it MAGA cult members. It is no Putin's country. It is not trump's country. It is the Ukrainian's country and they need to be at the table. trump is catering to his handler, Vladimir again. Zelensky has already said the Ukrainians will not accept a peace plan without being part of it. trump did the same thing in Afghanistan. He brokered a peace plan with the Taliban without the government. That did not turn out well....
The New York Post gives a very different perspective to what is going on with negotiations between the Ukraine and Russia. As long as Zelensky maintains martial law in the Ukraine, he is in fact a pure dictator. Is he reluctant to make a peace deal and lose that power? Who knows?

But he is also rejecting any deals with the USA in return for guaranteed security if he does make a peace deal with Russia. In other words he has several times misrepresented the situation--that is what provoked Trump's 'dictator' remark-- and has not been at all helpful in coming to an agreement for peace.
 
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Well ... You can pretend you have something worth saying.
Shit ... Get out your flag and start waving it ... Talking about Freedom and the Security of the Free World.

But back in reality ... You and the Europeans ... Look more like incels camping in Grandma's basement ...
While she is paying the bills ... And threatening to cut off your supply of Moon Pies ... :thup:

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YOU can pretend to be an American, but all you really want to is destroy this destroy. I served my country in Viet Nam. The Orange Shit Gibbon is a 5-Defererment Draft Dodging Coward. I do note that you are engaging in a personal attack rather than address my post. Which means you ain't got shit and you ain't got shit.
 
You're only concerned with Russians dying!!! You give no thought to thousands of Ukrainian deaths being sacrificed for Zelensky to remain in "power".

This is exactly why people support TRUMP ending the war, he see value to life on both sides.
Actually Ukrainians want to defend their homeland

Trump sees Nobel Prize out of this
He is fucking things up so badly he will only make it worse
 
YOU can pretend to be an American, but all you really want to is destroy this destroy. I served my country in Viet Nam. The Orange Shit Gibbon is a 5-Defererment Draft Dodging Coward. I do note that you are engaging in a personal attack rather than address my post. Which means you ain't got shit and you ain't got shit.
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You never had shit to start with ... And still don't ... :thup:

But as a fellow Veteran ... Thanks for your Service ...
I had the pleasure of serving in a completely volunteer US Army.

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