trump says there's "no price tag" for deportation.

[Lisa558]

The response of liberals - to protect the illegals and keep them in this country - shows that their claim that they do want to control the border to be a big, fat lie (as we knew just based on how they bribed them to come here).

 

[EvilCat Breath]

These illegals are coming through Mexico, even if they aren't "from" Mexico.

Allowing criminals to use your territory to go some place else isn't the act of a friend.

BTW, Trump's plan is "Stay in Mexico" for illegal aliens until they are cleared to proceed.

Don't count on a stay in Mexico plan this time around.

 

[Rawley]

Local LEOs have enough to deal with. Feds need to do their own work.

It actually reduces their work - takes criminals out of their towns and cities.

Due process is not summary process. All it takes is to ask for asylum, and you trigger a lengthy process.

Nope. It's called remain in Mexico. 'You still want asylum? - see you in 2027. Hasta la vista'

Not enough busses. using trucks and/or cattle cars evokes a rather unpleasant part of history.

So why did you suggest it?

Mexico is a sovereign country. Unless you want to invade, they can refuse anybody they want.

LOL We cut off remittances alone and their economy collapses.

They've had a concept of a plan for 4 years.

If that's what you want to think.

 

[Kondor3]

"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."

Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation of immigrants in U.S. history, regardless of cost.

www.nbcnews.com

And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

Trump has promised mass deportations. Can he do it in his 2nd term as president?

Former President Donald Trump could be poised to deliver on one of his most fervent campaign promises: to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.

www.usatoday.com

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

Then so be it.

The sooner we bite the bullet and "take the pain" the sooner it will be in our rearview mirror.

Time for "Operation Wetback II" and damn the consequences.

 

[BrokeLoser]

The response of liberals - to protect the illegals and keep them in this country - shows that their claim that they do want to control the border to be a big, fat lie (as we knew just based on how they bribed them to come here).

Libs:
“We swear, we don’t want more illegals and or ‘open borders’, we just don’t want a RACIST wall to divide us from Mexico, we don’t want states to have the right to do what the Feds will not, we want anyone who says the word "asylum" to be set free among the American public, we want to provide illegals with safe havens, we want to give illegals the right to drive, we want to provide them with free education, EBT cards and healthcare, we want to abolish iCE, we don’t want those mean ‘deportations’, we want a pathway to citizenship for the 20-50 million illegals here now, we want the 1.7 million DACA ‘kids’ gifted a form of citizenship and we want all Mexicans to be able to become citizens without all the red tape....we know we own Mexifornia, NM, NV, AZ, CO and much of Texas because of illegals…..but, but, but....we swear, we don’t want open borders."

 

[AsherN]

Nope. It's called remain in Mexico. 'You still want asylum? - see you in 2027. Hasta la vista'

They're here. You need to process their claim.

 

[BrokeLoser]

They're here. You need to process their claim.

“Need”?
Says who….why?

 

[Rawley]

They're here. You need to process their claim.

Says who?

 

[Rawley]

Don't count on a stay in Mexico plan this time around.

Why not?

 

[IM2]

How much does it cost for illegals to leech off the taxpayers?

Report: Undocumented Immigrants Contributed Nearly $100 Billion in Taxes in 2022​

Undocumented immigrants paid taxes amounting to $96.7 billion in 2022, including funding for government programs that they cannot access, according to a report by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), a left-leaning think tank. Roughly one-third of their tax payments included $ 25.7 billion to fund Social Security and $6.4 billion to fund Medicare.

Although one of the most common arguments for limiting immigration is the cost borne by the U.S. government, the study showed that undocumented immigrants pay about 26 percent of their income in taxes, Bloomberg News reported.

In total, undocumented immigrants paid $8,889 per person, in federal, state and local taxes in 2022. That translates to public services receiving $8.9 billion in additional tax revenue for every one million undocumented immigrants who reside in the country.

Six states raised more than $1 billion each in tax revenue from undocumented immigrants living within their borders, the report found. Those states are California ($8.5 billion), Texas ($4.9 billion), New York ($3.1 billion), Florida ($1.8 billion), Illinois ($1.5 billion), and New Jersey ($1.3 billion).

In 40 states, undocumented immigrants pay higher state and local tax rates than the top 1 percent of households living within their borders, the report found.

Tax Payments by Undocumented Immigrants

Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Providing access to work authorization for undocumented immigrants would increase their tax contributions both because their wages would rise and because their rates of tax compliance would increase.

itep.org

Illegal immigrants are paying taxes for things they don't get. You leech off them.

 

[Lisa558]

They're here. You need to process their claim.

We can certainly deport the flagrant violators of our law, can’t we: the 1.3 million illegal aliens who had the asylum hearings and were denied - and yet remain here anyway?

And what about the 30,000 murderers and rapists and other violent criminals that Biden let in? Why do Americans have to put their lives in danger because liberals are more concerned with criminal aliens?

 

[Hollie]

Most of them work.

,"... because I say so".

 

[Polishprince]

Don't count on a stay in Mexico plan this time around.

Anyone who comes through Mexico, shouldn't be surprised if they get sent back the same way.

As far as "stay in Mexico", why would Mexico want the border shut down and remittance between the US and them to cease?

 

[AsherN]

“Need”?
Says who….why?

International agreements

 

[Polishprince]

International agreements

What ratified treaty are you referencing?

 

[AsherN]

We can certainly deport the flagrant violators of our law, can’t we: the 1.3 million illegal aliens who had the asylum hearings and were denied - and yet remain here anyway?

And what about the 30,000 murderers and rapists and other violent criminals that Biden let in? Why do Americans have to put their lives in danger because liberals are more concerned with criminal aliens?

Those already processed and denied, absolutely.
Criminals, if they have committed crimes in the US, sure.

But you can bet the big show will be going after those who have been here for a long time, are not actively hiding. The easy low hanging fruits that do nothing to protect the country.

 

[AsherN]

What ratified treaty are you referencing?

The UN convention on Human Rights is a start. There are a number of international laws and agreements on how refugees and asylum seekers need to be treated.

 

[Polishprince]

Those already processed and denied, absolutely.
Criminals, if they have committed crimes in the US, sure.

But you can bet the big show will be going after those who have been here for a long time, are not actively hiding. The easy low hanging fruits that do nothing to protect the country.

That would be a change by itself from the Biden Harris Regime's policy.

Jose Ibarro, on trial for murder and rape in Georgia, was pinched for serious crimes and released in NYC before his Georgia crimes.

 

[bendog]

"We obviously have to make the border strong and powerful and, and we have to — at the same time, we want people to come into our country," he said. "And you know, I’m not somebody that says, 'No, you can’t come in.' We want people to come in."

As a candidate, Trump had repeatedly vowed to carry out the "largest deportation effort in American history." Asked about the cost of his plan, he said, "It’s not a question of a price tag. It’s not — really, we have no choice. When people have killed and murdered, when drug lords have destroyed countries, and now they’re going to go back to those countries because they’re not staying here. There is no price tag."

Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

In an exclusive interview with NBC News, Trump talked about his campaign promise to carry out the largest deportation of immigrants in U.S. history, regardless of cost.

www.nbcnews.com

And yet there is a price tag. Not only for the economy (removing that many workers is inflationary because it will drive up the price of labor. Plus it will reduce GDP), but for the government.

How much could it cost?​

Vice President-elect JD Vance has estimated Trump's actions could result in 1 million people being removed from the country each year, a pace the nonpartisan American Immigration Council estimated would cost about $88 billion annually. To deport all the people in the U.S. without authorization would take about a decade and cost nearly a trillion dollars, the council said.

Trump has promised mass deportations. Can he do it in his 2nd term as president?

Former President Donald Trump could be poised to deliver on one of his most fervent campaign promises: to deport millions of undocumented immigrants.

www.usatoday.com

I guess the thrill he got from hearing the screams of immigrant children after being separated from their parents wasn't quite satisfying enough. Now he'll be breaking up families who have lived here, yes illegally, for many years. I personally know someone here in CO who is married to an illegal alien. That marriage is over if the ACLU isn't able to stop Don in the courts.

The first response to your thread illustrated maga's problem. We can deport adults, b but the kids birthed here have to stay here, costing more taxes, and creating a class of young adults who were raised by the state, and good luck with that.

To give Trump credit, he learned something from his first go around, maybe. The problem is NOT immigration but BIRTHRIGHT CITENSHIP. While Gosuch, Alito and Thomas can literally create language on which to hang opinions, Phyler v. Doe isn't such an easy target, because it simply give effect to the literal meaning of the words in the 14th amend.

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Could we pass an amendment to the const to amend the 14? sure, but we'd need the votes.

 

[Polishprince]

The first response to your thread illustrated maga's problem. We can deport adults, b but the kids birthed here have to stay here, costing more taxes, and creating a class of young adults who were raised by the state, and good luck with that.

So how would you address this?

You don't want a solution.

BTW, if the adult is deported, there is no reason why the kid can't go with them.