Trump Says Intel Will Give 10% Stake To U.S., Becoming Third-Largest Shareholder

Investment is not bailout. Bailouts are welfare costs that democrats use as political leverage. Investment involves return.
The government should not be investing in private businesses. But since our tax money may go for this, I assume we all are going to get dividend checks from the profits.
 
This is dipping your foot into the sea of socialism. This administration brags about corporate welfare, cronyism, and corruption. They are the enemies of liberty and prosperity.

President Donald Trump on Friday said Intel agreed to give the U.S. a 10% stake in the company, making the U.S. the beleaguered chipmaker’s third-largest shareholder in one of the largest government interventions in an American company in more than a decade.


So there are any number of ways to look at it.

The USA gets Intel shares without having to buy them and Intel is guaranteed CHIPS grants that will help that company that has really been struggling to regain financial stability as well as give the U.S. leverage to break the bond between Intel and China which is essential for national security.

We can appreciate why the USA should not control U.S. business, but those 10% shares are not controlling interest, will benefit the USA and will likely more than pay for the CHIPS grants.
 
Looks like they're shooting for full spectrum dominance.

There's gonna be backdoors all over those chips now. :laugh:

Anyway, the merge of corporation and state is defined as fascism.
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Oddly, you were in favor of takeover when stated by Democrat Congresswoman Maxine Waters making statements suggesting she would support nationalizing certain industries, particularly the oil industry, during discussions about high profits and gas prices. She has referred to this as a potential "extreme step" in response to corporate profits.
Here Intel is offering a 10% to the government. There's no force involved or takeover.
 
The government should not be investing in private businesses. But since our tax money may go for this, I assume we all are going to get dividend checks from the profits.
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You forget when Executive orders by FDR used our tax money to invest in private businesses to increase the War effort.
During WWII, the U.S. government established the War Production Board to transition private industries from peacetime production to wartime needs, significantly increasing the output of military equipment and supplies. This effort included converting factories to produce weapons, vehicles, and other essential materials for the war.
This shift not only supported the military but also stimulated the U.S. economy, which had been struggling with high unemployment rates. Women entered the workforce in large numbers, taking on roles in factories that were previously held by men, further contributing to the war effort.
By the end of WWII, the U.S. was responsible for half of the world's wartime industrial production, significantly impacting the outcome of the war and the global economy.
 
Oddly, you were in favor of takeover when stated by Democrat Congresswoman Maxine Waters making statements suggesting she would support nationalizing certain industries, particularly the oil industry, during discussions about high profits and gas prices.

Well I think you're gonna have to support that claim. Because you're full of shit. My principles are rather consistent and I do not stray from them. Which is far more than I can say for most.

In fact, I think you'd be very hard pressed to find me hanging around any discussion regarding Maxine Waters in general. I don't give a flying shit about what Maxine Waters says enough even enter any dialogue pertaining to her.

So, yeah...show me where....
 
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This is dipping your foot into the sea of socialism. This administration brags about corporate welfare, cronyism, and corruption. They are the enemies of liberty and prosperity.

President Donald Trump on Friday said Intel agreed to give the U.S. a 10% stake in the company, making the U.S. the beleaguered chipmaker’s third-largest shareholder in one of the largest government interventions in an American company in more than a decade.


Obama TOOK CONTROL OF GM, lol! Under the radar of course. Obysmal threw out the CEO.

BITEME invested 100s of BILLIONS of dollars into the Green, new, scam. Where were you then?

Understand----------> unlike OBYSMAL, we did NOT bail out Intel like he did GM, we purchased Intel stock at the going rate. (Actually, Obysmal bailed out GM, and HELPED bail out Chrysler. He gave them both, cough-cough, loans......including the UAW)

Now, I also think purchasing Intel is questionable, as mixing Church and state, or company and state, is not very smart. If the country owns a 10% stake in any company, and litigations comes up before a court with 2 entities involved....1 of them being the company that the government owns a 10% stake in, who do we think they would side with?!?!

I know, I know, no DEMOCRAT wants to hear this, but I will be as kind as I can---------->

All of this started with Obama, Solyndra, and the rest of that whole deal with diesel emissions surpassing even those in Europe. It skipped a President, (Trump) and continued on with the Green, New, Deal. Both Obama and Biden (especially Biden) invested TRILLIONS into this, and basically screwed us today.

Now, just like Don't Taz me, I do not like how this is all going. If Obama and Biden did not start this, feel free to post who/how you think some other President did.

The fact is----------> Presidents used their office, (including Obama, Biden, Jimmy Carter I might add, along with Ronald Reagan) to move the country towards what they thought was best. In ZERO of these cases, did ANY of them allow the free market to choose what Americans wanted. Now you can say------->but CLIMATE CHANGE, or maybe CHEAP ENERGY, or we have to keep up with the Chinese, etc, etc.

America on its own, has chosen the wrong path many, many, MANY times. So has its Presidents! The difference is---------->because of our freedoms, when we chose the wrong path as a country, we have always changed course and not only fixed it, but have become the leading entity in the field.

Not so when Presidents picked our course! It is NOT that all the Presidents were wrong, but rather when they were, their political party had no choice but to support their decision or lose power. Same for today!

IF one party wants to be green, go ahead, no subsidies, nothing. One wants coal and oil? Same, no subsidies. Let the American public choose. I do not want Trump. nor AOC telling me what I have to do. In a free society, we call it OPTIONS! The more OPTIONS we have, the more free we are!
 
Really? Why not?
Because Trump is a 1980s democrat, and I stopped voting for ANY (D) in '80.

Then because (R)s chumped me for the last time in '95, and they've never stop chumping their voters to this very day.

Voted Libertarian (Harry Browne) for two cycles, and left that shit show when the bottom fell out of it after the '04 cycle.

But what does any of that have to do with any of this corporatist meddling that Trump is engaging in today, other than that's exactly the kind of Statist shit that repels me?
 
Obama TOOK CONTROL OF GM, lol!
And Obama is a socialist, right?

RIGHT!?!

"Soshulism!" is exactly what the Right screamed every time Obama did what Obama does.

Well, well, well! Now YOU are a socialist, too.

With your post, you just boasted, "Two Socialists Make A Right".

Exactly as I predicted in 2016 Trump would make all of you into.

Trump told you rubes he was just going to put the tip in, but now you are pregnant with socialism.

He has enacted far left protectionism.

He has nationalized US Steel.

He seizes students off the street for exercising their free speech.

He has inserted our government into the means of production by extorting money from Nvidea and AMD so they can do business with communist China.

He coddles, appeases, and seeks favor from Stalinist Putin and parrots all of the KGB thug's narratives.

Hs uses the full power of the government bludgeon to suppress his critics in our universities, the media, and business.

Now Trump's government has FORCIBLY taken the largest stake in the means of production of a company.

If Obama had done this, you know damned well you would be vomiting blood and Fox News would be a crater in the ground after reaching critical outrage mass.

In 2016, I tried to warn you idiots Trump would lead you to the far left. I made at least a hundred posts like this one:

No daylight between Clinton and Trump.

On every political issue for which Trump is on record, he took the far left position.

The huckster is taking you rubes for a ride. He's the pied piper, leading you naive fools to the Democratic cave. You are paying the price for the breaking of every promise the GOP ever made.
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I posted this picture, too, at least a hundred times:

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And Obama was a socialist, right?

RIGHT!?!

"Soshulism!" is exactly what the Right screamed when Obama did things like that.

Well, well, well! Now YOU are a socialist, too.

With your post, you just boasted "Two Socialists Make A Right".

Exactly as I predicted in 2016 Trump would make all of you into.

Trump told you rubes he was just going to put the tip in, but now you are pregnant with socialism.

He has enacted far left protectionism.

He has nationalized US Steel.

He has extorted money from Nvidea and AMD so they can do business with communist China.

He coddles, appeases, and seeks favor from Stalinist Putin and parrots all of the KGB thug's narratives.

Hs uses the full power of the government bludgeon to suppress critics in our universities, the media, and business.

Now Trump's government has FORCIBLY taken a stake in the means of production of a company.

If Obama had done this, you know damned well you would be vomiting blood and Fox News would be a crater in the ground after reaching critical outrage mass.

In 2016, I tried to warn you idiots Trump would lead you to the far left. I made at least a hundred posts like this one:


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I posted this picture, too, at least a hundred times:

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Would you like me to score a violin concerto with your post so it sounds more fluid, lol.

So, you ADMIT that Obysmal was a SOCIALIST along with BITME! Now we are getting somewhere. Getting you people to admit the sky is blue, is like trying to get Teddy to admit he was drunk and trying to get him some when he drove Mary-Jo off the bridge, or when he tried to cut a deal with the Kremlin to get help from them to defeat Reagan.

Well, if GWILIKERS is going to admit the truth folks, we may have to protect him as a whistleblower. AOC and FANG-FANGS lover ain't gonna lika dat sh**!
 
Would you like me to score a violin concerto with your post so it sounds more fluid, lol.

So, you ADMIT that Obysmal was a SOCIALIST along with BITME! Now we are getting somewhere. Getting you people to admit the sky is blue, is like trying to get Teddy to admit he was drunk and trying to get him some when he drove Mary-Jo off the bridge, or when he tried to cut a deal with the Kremlin to get help from them to defeat Reagan.

Well, if GWILIKERS is going to admit the truth folks, we may have to protect him as a whistleblower. AOC and FANG-FANGS lover ain't gonna lika dat sh**!
Um...retard?

You dumb ***** have been trapped inside a Fallacy of the Excluded Middle logical fallacy for over a decade now.

You ASSUME that because I hate Trump, I must be a Democrat and/or a liberal.

Why would I be REPEATEDLY warning you off Trump's far left polcieis for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating private sector solutions to health care for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating for the abolition of tax expenditures for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be providing real solutions to our national debt for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be propounding my pro-life position for well over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating for raising the retirement age to 70, and indexing it to 9 percent of the population, for over a decade now you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?


Wake up, dipshit. The enemy is in your own camp.

This is my entire point. You stupid Trump cult dumbasses have no clue what real conservatism is!
 
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The new MAGA cult line is, "It's okay for us to be socialists, too...because Obama and Biden."

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Corporations are us. They risk capital and employ Americans. Nobody likes to pay taxes so how is "corporate welfare" defined by the socialist left? Is corporate welfare just a meaningless cliche spouted by socialist lefties?
 
MAGAs are all socialist when it suits them to be.
 
Um...retard?

You dumb ***** have been trapped inside a Fallacy of the Excluded Middle logical fallacy for over a decade now.

You ASSUME that because I hate Trump, I must be a Democrat and/or a liberal.

Why would I be REPEATEDLY warning you off Trump's far left polcieis for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating private sector solutions to health care for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating for the abolition of tax expenditures for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be providing real solutions to our national debt for over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be propounding my pro-life position for well over a decade now if I was a liberal, you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?

Why would I be advocating for raising the retirement age to 70, and indexing it to 9 percent of the population, for over a decade now you stupid stupid stupid pinhead?


Wake up, dipshit. The enemy is in your own camp.

This is my entire point. You stupid Trump cult dumbasses have no clue what real conservatism is!

Wow, I think that response deserves that I rent a Stradivarius for the concerto.

That being said------------> There is 1 President, and 535 members of congress. As far as I know, there are 2 members NOT either Republican or Democrat, 1 being Sanders, and the 2nd being Senator King of Maine. Of course they always vote with the Democrats, so in actuality and all intents and purposes, THEY ARE DEMOCRATS!

And so G, you can expound whatever you want because every person in this country has a God given right to an opinion, and the ability to voice that opinion.

That being said, with less than 1% of congress being anything other than Repubs or Dems, and in fact those that insist that they are NOT either still vote consistently with 1 of the political affiliates, we have a choice--------> which one of the 2 sides do you want in power?

Now you can choose to not like whatever you do not like about both of them. Many of the things you pointed out, a whole load of Americans including myself, have concerns about. But the fact is until you can produce a Presidential Candidate that sounds like you, along with a boatload of Congress critters talking the same way and getting elected so as they all can govern together, we have what we have.

For me, I will take the GOP over the GASLIGHTING lying Quacks! If you refuse both political groups on principle, then good for you!
 
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