Trump says 8 European countries will be charged a 10% tariff for opposing US control of Greenland

[Stann]

He does know.

That makes it even worse.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In the long run that cost is paid by the consumer or didn't you bother to figure that out. trump didn't. I on e exactly what's going on. Using bad methods to being about good results is bad. Using badethode to bring about bad things can only be worse. That is trump.

You are correct, the tariff is paid by the importer and some of it may be passed on to consumers, but on items where demand is elastic, the higher price will discourage consumers from buying that item and switch to a US made product, so the tariffs do not significantly raise the cost of living no matter how much Democrats want them to.

 

[toomuchtime_]

In the long run that cost is paid by the consumer or didn't you bother to figure that out. trump didn't. I on e exactly what's going on. Using bad methods to being about good results is bad. Using badethode to bring about bad things can only be worse. That is trump.

No, as prices rise on imports, consumers switch to US made products so the tariffs do not significantly raise the cost of living.

 

[AsherN]

You are correct, the tariff is paid by the importer and some of it may be passed on to consumers, but on items where demand is elastic, the higher price will discourage consumers from buying that item and switch to a US made product, so the tariffs do not significantly raise the cost of living no matter how much Democrats want them to.

And you know, when there is a viable local resource, but the foreign product, you impose a tariff on the foreign product to price it closer to the local one. That's how tariffs work in trade. But when you impose a blanket tariff on everything from a country, it just raises prices, because there may not be a local equivalent available.

 

[Stann]

International Trade

www.census.gov

Look at the chart. You wanna know why other countries such as Mexico, Canada, and scores of European nations are angry at China?

Angry or jealous. ? China has made great strides in improving their lot in the world. Thanks in great part to American businessmen and corporations taking advantage of the lower wages to.make more profit. With no regard to how it affected American workers. I'm sure other nations did the same thing and outsourced their businesses as well. We did this to ourselves but as usual people like scapegoats.

 

[Stann]

And you know, when there is a viable local resource, but the foreign product, you impose a tariff on the foreign product to price it closer to the local one. That's how tariffs work in trade. But when you impose a blanket tariff on everything from a country, it just raises prices, because there may not be a local equivalent available.

And that is unfair to everyone.

 

[Stann]

No, as prices rise on imports, consumers switch to US made products so the tariffs do not significantly raise the cost of living.

If they're available maybe. But most of the time even with these exorbiment tariffs they remain competitive. We lost a lot of our ability to produce. It's called the rust belt now.

 

[toomuchtime_]

And you know, when there is a viable local resource, but the foreign product, you impose a tariff on the foreign product to price it closer to the local one. That's how tariffs work in trade. But when you impose a blanket tariff on everything from a country, it just raises prices, because there may not be a local equivalent available.

It would be difficult to find very many items average Americans buy for which there is no domestic equivalent available. In fact, Trump's tariff orders contain exemptions for items not readily available in the US. There is clear evidence Trump's tariffs have brought in $200 billion in new government revenues, but there is no evidence they have significantly raised the cost of living.

 

[CowboyTed]

Not even remotely true. There are lists of the top 100 global manufacturers. This just the top 20.

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Abbot, Medtronic and Boston have there manufacturing plants in Ireland...

Medtronic and Boston are in Galway...

Abbot is in Clonmel...

All have been there for decades

 

[toomuchtime_]

If they're available maybe. But most of the time even with these exorbiment tariffs they remain competitive. We lost a lot of our ability to produce. It's called the rust belt now.

It is very difficult to find items average Americans use that does not have an American equivalent, but there are some and that's why Trump's tariff orders have exemptions for items not readily available. There is no evidence Trump's tariffs have significantly increased the cost of living, but there is clear evidence they have helped to lower our budget deficit, and they are clearly a powerful tool in negotiations with other countries.

 

[Stann]

It would be difficult to find very many items average Americans buy for which there is no domestic equivalent available. In fact, Trump's tariff orders contain exemptions for items not readily available in the US. There is clear evidence Trump's tariffs have brought in $200 billion in new government revenues, but there is no evidence they have significantly raised the cost of living.

You are as looney toons as trump is.

 

[CowboyTed]

You see. I am a realist if we do nothing like you guys promote. China will bury us. Your voters are destroying the nation as everything is hate to you. You approve of criminals, molesters, rapists and drugs just to start. You destroyed nuclear hetero families. And when the tie comes will get very little compassion when we are poor enough and/or living in a dictatorship.

I know ye are looking for champion, a guy who fights for you...

Trump is not it... Trump on his third day office in his first term became the most pro China president in modern history. I know you don't like to hear that but his ACTIONS are what matter...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2017/01/24/trump-kills-tpp-giving-china-its-first-big-win/

Trump discovered his massive mistake way too late.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/371411-trump-hints-at-tpp-regret-but-that-train-is-leaving-the-station/

The thing is, to beat (or control) China you need partners. You need partners to restrict trade with them, you need partners to give access to another low wage economy but with US/Western favourable rules..
That is what TPP was about. IT wasn't about ending trade but about making the rule fair (and US basically in charge)

Trump said he pulled out of TPP because it gave China too much power. This should have alerted the world. China weren't in TPP and as thus, had no power. Trump didn't know what he was pulling out off except it was what Obama built. Small problem, TPP was actually set up by the Bush Admin

So Trump does the isolation list thing. This has a long history of economic disaster written all over it... Any Country that has gone down this route have been met with disaster.

Since then China has been on a massive expansion in Africa and Europe... Trump restricting Aid in first Term and killing US AID in second term has given China full access to rare earth minerals in Africa.. Europe hadn't even a chance to intervene, EU had no now there be cause US was there (i.e. US ally)... EU was covering other areas, US generally secures resources (Oil, Gas, are Earth Metals...)

You are sitting there watching your RW media which is pumping division. Pumping that fellow Americans are the problem. Think about that, who wins when America is divided...

Well-known right-wing influencers duped to work for covert Russian operation, U.S. prosecutors say

The accusations mark the third straight presidential election in which U.S. authorities have unveiled politically charged details about the Kremlin's attempted interference in U.S. politics.

www.pbs.org

https://www.npr.org/2024/09/07/nx-s1-5101895/doj-says-russia-paid-right-wing-influencers-to-spread-russian-propaganda

Literally paid to sell you that Democrats (fellow Americans) are evil by your enemy... But don't worry there is a lot of money in selling hate.

Look at this story objectively, look at the facts. The look at what was sold to you.

Behind the Somali daycare panic is a mother-and-son duo angling to be top Maga influencers

Nick and Brooke Shirley have for years published conspiracy-minded takes on hot-button rightwing issues

www.theguardian.com

Selling hate is profitable.

 

[AsherN]

It would be difficult to find very many items average Americans buy for which there is no domestic equivalent available. In fact, Trump's tariff orders contain exemptions for items not readily available in the US. There is clear evidence Trump's tariffs have brought in $200 billion in new government revenues, but there is no evidence they have significantly raised the cost of living.

You people ***** about how universal healthcare would raise your taxes but are happy to have forked over $200B in new taxes.

 

[Stann]

You see. I am a realist if we do nothing like you guys promote. China will bury us. Your voters are destroying the nation as everything is hate to you. You approve of criminals, molesters, rapists and drugs just to start. You destroyed nuclear hetero families. And when the tie comes will get very little compassion when we are poor enough and/or living in a dictatorship.

WOW ! And all those things are the fault of the Democrats. I can't believe they support all those terrible things. You shouldn't either. You've been totally brainwashed by trump and the MAGAs. They need their scapegoats to blame all the polls of society on. As trump always said., the people love having somebody to blame , and it's not going to be me.

 

[Hafar1014]

Key word will be it will never happen its ploy before the talks

 

[Stann]

Key word will be it will never happen its ploy before the talks

We're taking about a crazy man here. He's done a lot of crazy things already. He spread the rumor Biden weaponized the justice system against him despite the facts clearly showing he didn't ; then he went ahead and totally weaponized the justice system against anyone and everyone he considers an enemy. And the paranoid nut case has a lot of them. Increasing by the day. And he convienantly gutted the government , especially ones that opposed him in any way and interestingly enough those that protected American workers and their families. But you never noticed that did you. The truth is starring you in.the face but you go with trump's,' lies. Totally brainwashed.

 

[Hafar1014]

We're taking about a crazy man here. He's done a lot of crazy things already. He spread the rumor Biden weaponized the justice system against him despite the facts clearly showing he didn't ; then he went ahead and totally weaponized the justice system against anyone and everyone he considers an enemy. And the paranoid nut case has a lot of them. Increasing by the day. And he convienantly gutted the government , especially ones that opposed him in any way and interestingly enough those that protected American workers and their families. But you never noticed that did you. The truth is starring you in.the face but you go with trump's,' lies. Totally brainwashed.

When did you get youre degree in psychology and how many hotels have you built?
Your response doesnt relate to the subject so in your case intelligence is an issue as well as emotional stability.

Do you know what the term bargaining chip means in negotiations?
Dont just click disagree Stan post a thought if you have one

 

[Stann]

When did you get youre degree in psychology and how many hotels have you built?
Your response doesnt relate to the subject so in your case intelligence is an issue as well as emotional stability.

Do you know what the term bargaining chip means in negotiations?

You are the one who believes trump is a good businessman. He never was. Good businessmen avoid deciet , they know it's not good in business. Look at all of trumps' business ventures , most endéd up in bankruptcy and a lot failed because they were frauds. Now you people let this idiot into government. You must have a death wish.

 

[berg80]

Dotard pulled another TACO. CNBC is reporting the orange moron has backed away from his tariff threat.

 

[Stann]

Dotard pulled another TACO. CNBC is reporting the orange moron has backed away from his tariff threat.

Maybe when Europe started cancelling trade agreements with the US and was about to be charged with breech of contract. He saw more losses coming to the US over his crazy antics and he woke up for a moment.