Trump pushing Iran towards a nuke
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RealDave
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Yea sure.
Obama sent 400 million in cash that was money Iran had sent us for weapons before the revolution.
There was no other cash sent. You really need to pull your head out of your stupid ass. Were you born this fucking stupid or did your stupidity develop later in life?
Obama put together 5 nations to get Iran to give up their nuclear program.
It took Mr Stable Genius" a minute to end it & put Iran back on track to get that Nike.
Go ahead & attack Iran & ignore who supports Iran.
whitehall
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Is the American freaking left actually rooting for Iran? Obama bought and paid for their nuclear program and lefties are hoping they can finish it in time to make a political statement and damn the U.S.. More and more it becomes obvious that the left is being manipulated by foreign agents either willingly or because they are afflicted with a mental condition commonly called TDS.
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You are as gullible as Obama.
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Not unusual for these types of agreements.
It was a BAD agreement.
Do you think he just ended it on a whim?
He TOLD you American negotiators got their ass handed to them. Did you not listen?
Iran Bans U.S. Inspectors from All Nuclear Sites
No Americans permitted under final nuclear deal
Iran Bans U.S. Inspectors from All Nuclear Sites - Washington Free Beacon
". . . . Elliott Abrams, a former White House National Security Council director under George W. Bush, criticized the administration for consenting to Iranian demands.
"It's ironic that after Wendy Sherman told us about how Kerry and Zarif had tears in their eyes thinking about all they had accomplished together, we learn that the Islamic Republic won’t allow one single American inspector," Abrams said, referring to John Kerry and Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister. "No member of the P5+1 [negotiating team] should be barred, and this is another example of how badly the administration negotiated."
"We should have insisted that the ‘no Americans’ rule was simply unacceptable," Abrams said. "But there was no end to U.S. concessions."
One American source who was present in Vienna for the talks said the ban on all U.S. inspectors is the result of Iranian demands in the negotiating room.
"The administration promised the American people and their lawmakers that we would be implementing the most robust inspection regime in the history of the world and that we would know what’s happening on the ground," the source said. "Now they tell us America can’t have anything to do with the inspection regime because we don’t have diplomatic relations with Iran. I guess we should be grateful they’re not solving this problem by opening up a U.S. embassy in Tehran."
Obama administration officials also admitted recently that promises for "anytime, anywhere" inspections of Iran’s nuclear sites were a rhetorical flight of fancy.
"I think this is one of those circumstance where we have all been rhetorical from time to time," lead U.S. negotiator Wendy Sherman told reporters this week. "That phrase, ‘anytime, anywhere,’ is something that became popular rhetoric, but I think people understood that if the IAEA felt it had to have access, and had a justification for that access, that it would be guaranteed, and that is what happened."
U.S. concessions on the structure of the inspections regime have allowed Iran to delay inspections of sensitive sites for at least 24 days.. . . . "
Maybe you should get better informed before you post your crap.
blackhawk
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Iran has been on the path for nukes long before Trump came along and they have not been off it despite the over the top claims the Obama deal got them off it. It never did here is something for those who keep raising hell about Trump pulling out of that deal to consider if Obama had gotten a treaty with Iran Trump couldn't have just pulled out of it. Lets consider why Obama didn't go for the treaty yes there was Republican opposition to the deal Obama wanted no doubt but there were also more than a few Democrats who were against it as well he would have never gotten two thirds of the Senate to vote in favor of it because they knew how bad it was.
wamose
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Madeline Albright, a Secretary of State, was very instrumental in getting Epstein's sidekick to bomb Serbia. The painted lady had a childhood grudge against Yugoslavia and she used her influence over the sex fiend to get him to bomb them. Obama, on the other hand, didn't start wars but he let Russia invade the Ukraine, ISIS developed and started their caliphate largely funded by the $150 billion Obama gave Iran, tensions in Israel hit an all time high because of Obama's anti Semitism, Obama's Sec of State sold Russia 20% of our uranium and laundered the money she got through her phony foundation, and he set race relations back 50 years, creating a warlike atmosphere within our own country including the total disrespect for our law enforcement agencies. Obama was by far the worst president ever. Thank God he's out
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5 piss ass country's?
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Agreed. I didn’t even open the link, when I saw CNN. Fuck CNN!
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The nuke was pushed when Iran woke up with $1.7b in cash in its backyard.
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Small quantities? For what reason. Bullshit. Maybe they only wanted to put the the tip in. Oboe sold us out.
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Trump owns your punk ass, and you love it.
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You mean because he flew $1.5 BILLION dollars into Iran, IN CASH, under the cover of NIGHT to help them build a nuke?
Oh wait... that was OBAMA.
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Agreed.
I had to read it in order to counter the propaganda.
You will note, my post #78, where fake Dave responds in post #85
Not unusual for these types of agreements.
It was a BAD agreement.
Do you think he just ended it on a whim?
He TOLD you American negotiators got their ass handed to them. Did you not listen?
Iran Bans U.S. Inspectors from All Nuclear Sites
No Americans permitted under final nuclear deal
Iran Bans U.S. Inspectors from All Nuclear Sites - Washington Free Beacon
". . . . Elliott Abrams, a former White House National Security Council director under George W. Bush, criticized the administration for consenting to Iranian demands.
"It's ironic that after Wendy Sherman told us about how Kerry and Zarif had tears in their eyes thinking about all they had accomplished together, we learn that the Islamic Republic won’t allow one single American inspector," Abrams said, referring to John Kerry and Javad Zarif, Iran’s foreign minister. "No member of the P5+1 [negotiating team] should be barred, and this is another example of how badly the administration negotiated."
"We should have insisted that the ‘no Americans’ rule was simply unacceptable," Abrams said. "But there was no end to U.S. concessions."
One American source who was present in Vienna for the talks said the ban on all U.S. inspectors is the result of Iranian demands in the negotiating room.
"The administration promised the American people and their lawmakers that we would be implementing the most robust inspection regime in the history of the world and that we would know what’s happening on the ground," the source said. "Now they tell us America can’t have anything to do with the inspection regime because we don’t have diplomatic relations with Iran. I guess we should be grateful they’re not solving this problem by opening up a U.S. embassy in Tehran."
Obama administration officials also admitted recently that promises for "anytime, anywhere" inspections of Iran’s nuclear sites were a rhetorical flight of fancy.
"I think this is one of those circumstance where we have all been rhetorical from time to time," lead U.S. negotiator Wendy Sherman told reporters this week. "That phrase, ‘anytime, anywhere,’ is something that became popular rhetoric, but I think people understood that if the IAEA felt it had to have access, and had a justification for that access, that it would be guaranteed, and that is what happened."
U.S. concessions on the structure of the inspections regime have allowed Iran to delay inspections of sensitive sites for at least 24 days.. . . . "
Maybe you should get better informed before you post your crap.
What I was specifically refuting was the CNN propaganda, particularly this part;
"If that happens, Iran will have gone from the most inspected country in the world and, by all serious accounts, a country that was in compliance with the international nuclear agreement to a country armed with nuclear weapons. Iran will represent the second country to have obtained nuclear weapons in the Middle East, arguably the most dangerous region in the world."
How Donald Trump pushed Iran to the bomb (Opinion) - CNN
Clearly, the opinion of fake news journalist is just that, an opinion which is refuted by facts, and fake Dave has nothing but crap to refute it with other than his opinion informed by crap propaganda.
/thread.
--------------------------------------------- and heck , I don't care if 'iran' gets 'a Fleet of nukes' or a single 'nuke' though I applaud the TRUMPS words , actions , sanctions and decrees that 'iran' is not ALLOWED to have 'nukes' . I just want to see the TRUMP exert his Peacekeeping Will ------------- just saying in response to Real Dave and his post number One .You mean because he flew $1.5 BILLION dollars into Iran, IN CASH, under the cover of NIGHT to help them build a nuke?
Oh wait... that was OBAMA.
--------------------------------------- USA had Control of this so called 'iranian' money until 'mrobama' GAVE that Control to the 'Iranian Enemy' RealDave .
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