Trump pauses military aid to Ukraine.. (No Patriot missile systems for Ukraine.) Kyiv gets hit hard on 4th of July with drones.

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Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.

(Thee other link says USA has suspended military aid to Ukraine.)

NyTimes link also says Ukraine REALLY NEEDS patriot missile systems, but Trump’s not giving them to Ukraine. Zelenskyy says he’s willing to buy $15 billion dollars worth of patriot missile systems though from USA. NyTimes link also says Trump would consider selling the missile systems though to Ukraine.. Etc., etc., etc.

My question is though, didn’t Trump sign a minerals deal with Ukraine? Wouldn’t this violate the minerals deal made a few months ago..?

Anyone know what’s up with this?

Kyiv also got hammered with drone strikes last night apparently worst than ever, because Ukraine doesn’t have patriot missile systems. Looks like Vladimir Putin was trying to send a message. (Bombarding Kyiv with drone strikes on thee 4th of July.)

 
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Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.

(Thee other link says USA has suspended military aid to Ukraine.)

NyTimes link also says Ukraine REALLY NEEDS patriot missile systems, but Trump’s not giving them to Ukraine. Zelenskyy says he’s willing to buy $15 billion dollars worth of patriot missile systems though from USA. NyTimes link also says Trump would consider selling the missile systems though to Ukraine.. Etc., etc., etc.

My question is though, didn’t Trump sign a minerals deal with Ukraine? Wouldn’t this violate the minerals deal made a few months ago..?

Anyone know what’s up with this?

Kyiv also got hammered with drone strikes last night apparently worst than ever, because Ukraine doesn’t have patriot missile systems. Looks like Vladimir Putin was trying to send a message. (Bombarding Kyiv with drone strikes on thee 4th of July.)

Trump isn’t above double dipping. If there’s a scam to be run, he’s there.
 
Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.
Yeah, the pause is real—but it’s not a full cutoff. Trump and the Pentagon say it’s a “capability review” to make sure U.S. stockpiles don’t run too thin. Ukraine’s still getting intel and support, and after a call with Zelenskyy, reports say Patriot shipments will likely resume soon. Germany may step in too.

The timing’s rough, no doubt—Russia definitely took the opportunity to send a message.
But this looks more like logistical juggling and political positioning than a broken deal or abandonment.

If you're digging into the minerals angle, that's a whole separate rabbit hole—happy to go there if you're serious.
 


Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.

(Thee other link says USA has suspended military aid to Ukraine.)

NyTimes link also says Ukraine REALLY NEEDS patriot missile systems, but Trump’s not giving them to Ukraine. Zelenskyy says he’s willing to buy $15 billion dollars worth of patriot missile systems though from USA. NyTimes link also says Trump would consider selling the missile systems though to Ukraine.. Etc., etc., etc.

My question is though, didn’t Trump sign a minerals deal with Ukraine? Wouldn’t this violate the minerals deal made a few months ago..?

Anyone know what’s up with this?

Kyiv also got hammered with drone strikes last night apparently worst than ever, because Ukraine doesn’t have patriot missile systems. Looks like Vladimir Putin was trying to send a message. (Bombarding Kyiv with drone strikes on thee 4th of July.)

/----/ Zelenskyy had his chance with Trump, and he blew it big time.
 
/----/ Zelenskyy had his chance with Trump, and he blew it big time.
Actually Trump said he had a call with Z yesterday (Friday) and the call went well.
The call with Putin went badly, Putin is not interested in a ceasefire or an end to the war.
Trump needs to put serious sanctions on Russia.
 


Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.

(Thee other link says USA has suspended military aid to Ukraine.)

NyTimes link also says Ukraine REALLY NEEDS patriot missile systems, but Trump’s not giving them to Ukraine. Zelenskyy says he’s willing to buy $15 billion dollars worth of patriot missile systems though from USA. NyTimes link also says Trump would consider selling the missile systems though to Ukraine.. Etc., etc., etc.

My question is though, didn’t Trump sign a minerals deal with Ukraine? Wouldn’t this violate the minerals deal made a few months ago..?

Anyone know what’s up with this?

Kyiv also got hammered with drone strikes last night apparently worst than ever, because Ukraine doesn’t have patriot missile systems. Looks like Vladimir Putin was trying to send a message. (Bombarding Kyiv with drone strikes on thee 4th of July.)

One day he's pro-Ukrainian, the next he's pro-Russia. It's hard to keep up with his lack of caring about anyone
 
Maybe you don't get that when you are trying to negotiate an end to the war you need to understand both sides.

You're right, you do need to understand both sides. Trump doesn't understand either.

I do. I knew Xi had got rejected TWICE by Putin, even after Xi did it publicly, which was pretty silly of him. The chances Trump would succeed where Xi had failed? 0%.

Anyone with any understand of Putin would know that.

Every time Trump went to Putin, Putin played games. Using spy speech, promising vague things like "I want peace". Everyone knows when Putin says "I want peace" it means "I want to defeat the Ukraine and have peace", not "I will give up now".

It's that simple. Doesn't take a genius to understand that, but Trump keeps going back for more being made a fool of by Putin. Trump isn't anywhere near Putin's level.
 
You're right, you do need to understand both sides. Trump doesn't understand either.

I do. I knew Xi had got rejected TWICE by Putin, even after Xi did it publicly, which was pretty silly of him. The chances Trump would succeed where Xi had failed? 0%.

Anyone with any understand of Putin would know that.

Every time Trump went to Putin, Putin played games. Using spy speech, promising vague things like "I want peace". Everyone knows when Putin says "I want peace" it means "I want to defeat the Ukraine and have peace", not "I will give up now".

It's that simple. Doesn't take a genius to understand that, but Trump keeps going back for more being made a fool of by Putin. Trump isn't anywhere near Putin's level.
/—-/ If it’s so simple why didn’t Joe try to negotiate an end?
 
If you're digging into the minerals angle, that's a whole separate rabbit hole—happy to go there if you're serious.
I’m willing to read what you’ve got to say regarding the minerals deal..
 
You're right, you do need to understand both sides. Trump doesn't understand either.
I do. I knew Xi had got rejected TWICE by Putin, even after Xi did it publicly, which was pretty silly of him. The chances Trump would succeed where Xi had failed? 0%. Anyone with any understand of Putin would know that.
Every time Trump went to Putin, Putin played games. Using spy speech, promising vague things like "I want peace". Everyone knows when Putin says "I want peace" it means "I want to defeat the Ukraine and have peace", not "I will give up now".
It's that simple. Doesn't take a genius to understand that, but Trump keeps going back for more being made a fool of by Putin. Trump isn't anywhere near Putin's level.
Trump knows that if Putin uses nukes that cascades into an extinction event.
Putin knows that Trump won't risk WW3.
Putin pushing his position doesn't mean Trump was outplayed, it just means Trump is very cautious with everyone's life.
 
Trump knows that if Putin uses nukes that cascades into an extinction event.
Putin knows that Trump won't risk WW3.
Putin pushing his position doesn't mean Trump was outplayed, it just means Trump is very cautious with everyone's life.

Wow. I'm not sure you understand what's going on at all.
 
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Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.
Thus Trump is rewarding Putin's recent bombardment of Ukraine with over 700 drones and hypersonic missiles.

Putin must be creaming his pants, and can't wait to do it again.
 


Well the NyTimes link explains the story well, but if you can’t read the NyTimes link, it pretty much says USA has given $11 billion dollars to Ukraine so far in 2025, but Trump has paused further military aid to Ukraine for weapons.

(Thee other link says USA has suspended military aid to Ukraine.)

NyTimes link also says Ukraine REALLY NEEDS patriot missile systems, but Trump’s not giving them to Ukraine. Zelenskyy says he’s willing to buy $15 billion dollars worth of patriot missile systems though from USA. NyTimes link also says Trump would consider selling the missile systems though to Ukraine.. Etc., etc., etc.

My question is though, didn’t Trump sign a minerals deal with Ukraine? Wouldn’t this violate the minerals deal made a few months ago..?

Anyone know what’s up with this?

Kyiv also got hammered with drone strikes last night apparently worst than ever, because Ukraine doesn’t have patriot missile systems. Looks like Vladimir Putin was trying to send a message. (Bombarding Kyiv with drone strikes on thee 4th of July.)

Trump didn't stop weapons shipped to Ukraine
And, when he was told, he immediately ordered them be sent out.
 
You're right, you do need to understand both sides. Trump doesn't understand either.

I do. I knew Xi had got rejected TWICE by Putin, even after Xi did it publicly, which was pretty silly of him. The chances Trump would succeed where Xi had failed? 0%.

Anyone with any understand of Putin would know that.

Every time Trump went to Putin, Putin played games. Using spy speech, promising vague things like "I want peace". Everyone knows when Putin says "I want peace" it means "I want to defeat the Ukraine and have peace", not "I will give up now".

It's that simple. Doesn't take a genius to understand that, but Trump keeps going back for more being made a fool of by Putin. Trump isn't anywhere near Putin's level.
Interesting how you so admire Putin.
 
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