Putin Attacks US Electronics Factory in Ukraine

[Missourian]

Trump comes home from Saudi Arabia in March bragging he arranged a cease fire between Russia and Ukraine.

The very next day, Putin launches one of the worst attacks on Ukraine in the entire history of the war.

Trump whines in a post, "Vladimir, STOP!"

Trump then summons Zelensky to the White House to humiliate our ally with insults. One of the most disgraceful moments in American history.

Trump invites the Stalinist war criminal onto American soil and the ***** boi rolls out the red carpet and tells the thug, "I'll help you."

Trump doesn't even try to get Putin to agree to a cease fire this time because he knows Putin will again humiliate him.

Putin is now bombing American factories.

What's our little submissive coward going to do about that? Send American troops to Milwaukee?


Yet for reasons beyond human comprehension, the MAGA cult cannot see Trump is Putin's *****.

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Then show me all the headway Biden's autopen cabal made playing hardball?

Did he end the war?

Did he even meet with Putin?

Was the war winding down when "sharp as a tack" Biden got thrown under the bus by his own party?

**** no it wasn't.

The hardball strategy was a bust.

There are only three ways to go from there ... continue playing hardball and throwing Ukrainian's into the meat grinder while hoping for the best.

Escalate the war by infusing Ukraine with American Troops on the ground.

Or... try a the carrot instead of the stick.

Putin wants Western Ukraine as. A buffer against NATO.

He has taken Western Ukraine.

That's a fact.

What is YOUR plan to get him out of there?

 

[g5000]

Then show me all the headway Biden's autopen cabal made playing hardball?

Ukraine invaded Russia and was doing quite well under Biden.

Thanks to our help, they were able to push Putin all the way back from Kyiv to the Donbas.

Were you not paying attention or was your BDS blinding you?

Did he end the war?

Tell me something, genius. How long did it take Reagan and Bush, Sr. to get the Soviets out of Afghanistan?

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Did he even meet with Putin?

Why should anyone kow-tow to a Stalinist dictator who has no interest in peace?

This is what submissive ***** boi Trump does not get.

I want you to wait and see what social media post the coward makes about the bombing of an American factory. See if it is stronger than anything he has said toward Rosie O'Donnell or ANY American.

Will he bomb a factory in Russia in retaliation?

Nope.



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[Missourian]

The situation on the ground puts Trump at a disadvantage to Putin.

Without the nuclear threat that had to be set aside, America's tacticians are learning that they're not the big dog anymore.

Why else is the US hesitating to lead Nato to a war against Russia?

I don't agree with this either.

Russia is a third rate power with big hairy cojones.

They took a HUGE risk that they could invade Ukraine under Biden, and Europe and America would do nothing because the US was war weary and Western Europe only has a vagina.

And they were right.

 

[Donald H]

I don't agree with this either.

Russia is a third rate power with big hairy cojones.

They took a HUGE risk that they could invade Ukraine under Biden, and Europe and America would do nothing because the US was war weary and Western Europe only has a vagina.

And they were right.

You're right that Nato without the US isn't any threat to Russia.

That still leaves America's war against Russia.

 

[Missourian]

Ukraine invaded Russia and was doing quite well under Biden.

Thanks to our help, they were able to push Putin all the way back from Kyiv to the Donbas.

Were you not paying attention or was your BDS blinding you?

That's 2022...two years before Trump came on the scene. While this blunt AI generated assessment indicates stalemate... it presupposes the Russia intention is to advance.

Putin himself has said the goal was Eastern Ukraine. He made this statement way back in like 2008 when Bush pressed for Ukraine and Georgia to join NATO.

If that is indeed the Russia goal... this isn't a stalemate, but instead a Russia victory.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

Why else is the US hesitating to lead Nato to a war against Russia?

Maybe because Putin isn't entirely stable and he has enough nukes and ballistic missiles to vaporize all 330 million Americans?

 

[Missourian]

I want you to wait and see what social media post the coward makes about the bombing of an American factory. See if it is stronger than anything he has said toward Rosie O'Donnell or ANY American.

Will he bomb a factory in Russia in retaliation?

I'll wait to see how it shakes out.

You for some reason trust everything you're told.

After Iraq, I have no such trust remaining.

Last night, due to a discussion I was having with ElmerMudd I was researching the US interaction with Cuba... I ran across this...

Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

We are not the fuckin' good guys.

Like Russia, our people will do whatever it takes to accomplish whatever mission is adopted.

You can't take anything at face value.

I have work to do now, but I'll be back on when I take a break.

 

[AlexanderPK]

Will he bomb a factory in Russia in retaliation?

Where do they breed paper tigers or assholes like you? When will you dickhead own up to the fact that America isn't capable of anything of the kind, Trump or your shit-for-brain hero?

 

[Donald H]

Maybe because Putin isn't entirely stable and he has enough nukes and ballistic missiles to vaporize all 330 million Americans?

Yes, but there's little chance of nuclear war. The reason why is that there would be no winners. and that includes both Trump and Putin.

You're trying to make an excuse for America not being more aggressive toward Russia.

And now I'm pretty sure that the Zionist regime is in the same boat. A war against Iran would likely spell the end of the experiment on stealing Arab lands.

We'll see. If there's still any chance of defeating Iran and destroying it, it would have to be very soon. I'm hearing that it's already too late.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

You're trying to make an excuse for America not being more aggressive toward Russia.

No, we just have a differing view on how invested the American people should be in a war on the opposite side of the planet.

 

[Missourian]

Yes, but there's little chance of nuclear war.

A country that will gamble on invading Ukraine is a country that may also gamble on detonating a small yeild tactical nuke.

IMO, Russia feels as though their back is against the wall.

Russia is fielding tanks from a design that entered service in 1972 and ended production in 1992. You know who else fielded T-72 tanks? Saddam in the first war with Iraq.

That was 1991, and we smoked 'em like BBQ.

So don't mistake apathy for fear.

If push came to shove, Russia is currently no match for the US military, and they know it.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

A country that will gamble on invading Ukraine is a country that may also gamble on detonating a small yeild tactical nuke.

IMO, Russia feels as though their back is against the wall.

Russia is fielding tanks from a design that entered service in 1972 and ended production in 1992. You know who else fielded T-72 tanks? Saddam in the first war with Iraq.

That was 1991, and we smoked 'em like BBQ.

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So don't mistake apathy for fear.

If push came to shove, Russia is currently no match for the US military, and they know it.

Yea, there's no reason to push Putin to the brink of nuclear war, especially over eastern Ukraine, not to mention that Zelensky's totalitarian regime is super corrupt. The only reason leftists care is because their Washington Establishment masters told them to care.

 

[Missourian]

No, we just have a differing view on how invested the American people should be in a war on the opposite side of the planet.

↑↑↑ This.

Not our circus, not our monkeys.

This is a European problem. They can sort it out.

Democrats used to say "we are not the world police".

Now that we have agreed with them, suddenly they want us to be the world police...

... Unless Hamas in Gaza attacks Israel on October 7th... that of course is none of our business.

 

[AlexanderPK]

A country that will gamble on invading Ukraine is a country that may also gamble on detonating a small yeild tactical nuke.

IMO, Russia feels as though their back is against the wall.

Russia is fielding tanks from a design that entered service in 1972 and ended production in 1992. You know who else fielded T-72 tanks? Saddam in the first war with Iraq.

That was 1991, and we smoked 'em like BBQ.

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So don't mistake apathy for fear.

If push came to shove, Russia is currently no match for the US military, and they know it.

Your Abramses have been smoked in Ukraine, I guess all of them by now. Are those that were also no match to Russian ones?

 

[Missourian]

Then show me all the headway Biden's autopen cabal made playing hardball?

Did he end the war?

Did he even meet with Putin?

Was the war winding down when "sharp as a tack" Biden got thrown under the bus by his own party?

**** no it wasn't.

The hardball strategy was a bust.

There are only three ways to go from there ... continue playing hardball and throwing Ukrainian's into the meat grinder while hoping for the best.

Escalate the war by infusing Ukraine with American Troops on the ground.

Or... try a the carrot instead of the stick.

Putin wants Western Ukraine as. A buffer against NATO.

He has taken Western Ukraine.

That's a fact.

What is YOUR plan to get him out of there?

I said Western Ukraine here, but I meant Eastern Ukraine. Apologies for any misunderstanding this generated.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

Your Abramses have been smoked in Ukraine

Link?

 

[Donald H]

A country that will gamble on invading Ukraine is a country that may also gamble on detonating a small yeild tactical nuke.

I really doubt that Putin would open that can of worms. And especially now that he has the enemy (America) on the run.

IMO, Russia feels as though their back is against the wall.

Russia's wall is in front of their army and that wall is crumbling fast.

Russia is fielding tanks from a design that entered service in 1972 and ended production in 1992. You know who else fielded T-72 tanks? Saddam in the first war with Iraq.

Even squirrel guns are effective against a defeated and retreating enemy.

That was 1991, and we smoked 'em like BBQ.

The world learned a lesson from the US overwhelming victory over a slightly more formidable 3rd. world power.

If push came to shove, Russia is currently no match for the US military, and they know it.

The US military currently has no safe options IMO. I've heard your opinion and so let's not head for our armchairs and waste our time trying to prove the point.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

Your Abramses have been smoked in Ukraine, I guess all of them by now. Are those that were also no match to Russian ones?

You're correct.

I will say that tanks aren't well suited for the type of environment such as the Ukraine front.

US Army Responds to Losses of M1 Abrams Tanks in Ukraine

With all but 4 of the 31 armored vehicles gifted to Ukraine and first deployed in February 2024 having been destroyed, the Pentagon will spend $100 million in countermeasures for its tanks.

www.kyivpost.com

 

[Missourian]

I really doubt that Putin would open that can of worms. And especially now that he has the enemy (America) on the run.

I would have doubted Russia would defy the world and attack Ukraine. But they did.

 

[FoghornLeghorn]

The US military currently has no safe options IMO.

Trump is encouraging peace and that's about all that he should do. If his efforts are unsuccessful then he should wash his hands of it and focus on helping the American people.