Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[Dr Grump]

I'd have said Somalia except that HW got us into Somalia.

But now you're just showing you don't have any manhood at all. Dr. Grumpette. Invading and holding Northern Iraq is not invading a country.

Your standard is just like every other Democrat. You are fine with US invasions. What you oppose is Democrats not being behind the steering wheel.

It's hilarious you're lecturing me about this when I'm against both of them. But I am not a partisan Democrat like you. I want to leave the middle east entirely. You want a one party system with Democrats the one party

Love it. For a long time on this very board back when I first joined all you neocon whackos rambled on about how Clinton was responsible for Somalia. Now it's Bush. Ha! I couldn't make this shit up.

The no fly zone was well established before Clinton came to power.

I'm not fine with any US invasions. Do you sit down and figure out how to lie, or do you just make shit up on the fly? Dayton was a peace accord, not an invasion. Somalia was a humanitarian intervention.

Vietnam started under Eisenhower, but escalated under Kennedy and then really ramped up under Johnson. The two being Dems if I recall. And I think the US never should have been there. So there goes that pathetic attempt as oneupmanship from you.

I want you to leave the ME entirely too.

 

[Dr Grump]

And yet your standard clearly became Democrats invading other countries is fine with you. What you oppose is Republicans being behind the steering wheel and your supposed anti-meddling policy was just yet another partisan weapon to you.

Note Trump is NOT invading anyone while Biden has a 47 year history of supporting invasions and you still say Biden is "better."

If what you cared about is the US minding our own business. Trump is the best you've gotten from us since the 70s and Carter. Obviously when you said that was your standard, you LIED, Darlene. You're another no nuts Democrat

Why are trying to draw a correlation between my extreme dislike of Trump and US invasions. When I think of my dislike of Trump it has nothing to do with invasions. That is the least of my problems with him. As you said, he hasn't invaded anywhere that I know of.

Where have I said I want the US (under any political party) invading? Where have I said Vietnam was okay? Grenada? Gulf War 1? Iraq? Afghanistan?

Minding your own business? You mean slapping tariffs on countries? That's minding your own business? Calling Kim a fuckwit then his mate is not having a affect on the international stage? The funny thing is, the reason he is quiet on the international front is because he is barely holding it together on the domestic front. He hasn't got a clue as to what is going on around him.

 

[kaz]

You already lost that one. Give it up. You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto and yet you couldn't think of a single plank that the Democrats are against. So you deflected and told me to list every Democrat and every position, which of course is a logical fallacy called a you're full of shit fallacy

I never said I know the Communist manifesto. In fact, I said almost the opposite. As well as being a coward, you can't read. You are the one saying the Dems are communists, not I. All I'm asking you is to draw parallels. You can't. I didn't think so, because anybody with half a brain the Dems are not Communists. So, now I know you have less than half a brain. Hell, most of what the Dems want isn't even socialism.

You didn't say draw parallels. You said prove it. I did draw parallels, the planks of the communist manifesto. So that was your problem, you didn't know how to Google the planks?

The planks of the Communist Manifesto are the backbone of how government totally controls a country.

And you were in the quote for when another poster who unlike you gave a serious response and I listed many of the key ones to your silence.

But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters. Things like the progressive income tax that reach confiscatory rates. Limiting the ability to leave your own wealth to your heirs with tax rates that again reach confiscatory levels. You can't leave and take your property with you. Government controls land ownership and the airwaves. We are indoctrinated in government education.

That's EXACTLY what Democrats advocate. Then as they have a choke hold on the country like a boa constrictor on its prey then they have us by the short hairs.

Also, like communist governments, Democrats indemnify their own leaders who live in fabulous luxury and wealth because they are more equal than we are.

Democrats are also moving towards endless control and nationalization of our key industries. Medical, financial, energy. And they push their economic policy through endless taxes and regulations of businesses.

There are a whole hell of a lot of "parallels" to anyone with a critical mind

 

[Faun]

His sheep elected him as a big FUCK YOU to this country. He's really come through for them.

For us and YOU too.

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration, 5. 5. 5. created 4 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

LOLOL

I got only as far as ...

"RECORD positive numbers on the economy"​

​

You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever.​

They cut and paste those things, as if their sheer volume will intimidate you from actually reading them or refuting them.

These are not serious people.

Volume is irrelevant when the very first item is bullshit.

 

[kaz]

I'd have said Somalia except that HW got us into Somalia.

But now you're just showing you don't have any manhood at all. Dr. Grumpette. Invading and holding Northern Iraq is not invading a country.

Your standard is just like every other Democrat. You are fine with US invasions. What you oppose is Democrats not being behind the steering wheel.

It's hilarious you're lecturing me about this when I'm against both of them. But I am not a partisan Democrat like you. I want to leave the middle east entirely. You want a one party system with Democrats the one party

Love it. For a long time on this very board back when I first joined all you neocon whackos rambled on about how Clinton was responsible for Somalia. Now it's Bush. Ha! I couldn't make this shit up.

The no fly zone was well established before Clinton came to power.

I'm not fine with any US invasions. Do you sit down and figure out how to lie, or do you just make shit up on the fly? Dayton was a peace accord, not an invasion. Somalia was a humanitarian intervention.

Vietnam started under Eisenhower, but escalated under Kennedy and then really ramped up under Johnson. The two being Dems if I recall. And I think the US never should have been there. So there goes that pathetic attempt as oneupmanship from you.

I want you to leave the ME entirely too.

I always put Somalia under Bush, no idea what you're talking about. But don't worry, I always gave Clinton credit for expanding it.

I also noted your brain fart you didn't realize I said I was against it. And seriously, you're whining that I blamed the Republicans for Somalia?

On Vietnam, while Eisenhower and Kennedy certainly contributed and sent in US troops, we weren't really involved in the fighting until LBJ who sent in troops to fight rather than train South Vietnamese.

Also, again your failure to know history, Clinton greatly expanded the no fly zones. This is your attempt to deflect from that Clinton invaded Northern Iraq and endlessly bombed military and communication facilities, which you're fine with because Democrat.

It's still laughable how you're claiming your biggest issue with the US is interference and you're attacking Trump who interfered less than any President including Democrats since Carter and me who is more anti-US foreign involvement than you are. You support it when Democrat.

I want to leave the middle east entirely and start a process of closing every US base in foreign territory. I want to slash the US military by 1/3 to 1/2 and make it defensive focused. I want to slash our overseas diplomatic corps and stay out of everyone else's shit and just negotiate where it involves the United States.

Face it, compared to Trump and me, you're the war hawk, John Bolton

 

[kaz]

Dr Grump debating style.

kaz: The beach is comprised of sand

Dr Grump: List every beach and every grain of sand on each beach

bbbzzttt.... Wrong. I'm not debating whether the beach is made of sand. I'm debating if you are even at a beach. In order for the above to be true, I have to believe everything you type is true. I don't. Talk about hubris and arrogance.
As I said, you make a assertion it is yours to prove not mine. You going "it is so" is not evidence of anything.

oh the irony there.

Dr Dumb Ass thinks list every Democrat and every position is a lucid debate response. It's some stupid shit.

Note he's claiming he doesn't want to prove me wrong. Nope not interested. Sure he's not. Obviously he knows I'm right and he's deflecting

I can't prove something wrong that hasn't been proven in the first place.
Note to Kaz: saying "The Dems are Communists" doesn't prove a thing.
For example, just because I say the moon is made of cheese doesn't make it so. Now, if I was to state that to you, Kaz, it is not incumbent on you to prove it to be so, it is up to me, after all I'm the one stating the fact.

Look, I know I'm hitting my head up against the wall with you on this, which leaves me with two conclusions - you're either deliberately being obtuse, or you're dumb as a sack of rocks. I know where I'd put my money, cause I'm guessing you'd have to look up what obtuse even means.

All I asked you to do was list some planks of the Communist Manifesto that Democrats actually oppose. Yeah, that was impossible, sure it was

 

[kaz]

And yet your standard clearly became Democrats invading other countries is fine with you. What you oppose is Republicans being behind the steering wheel and your supposed anti-meddling policy was just yet another partisan weapon to you.

Note Trump is NOT invading anyone while Biden has a 47 year history of supporting invasions and you still say Biden is "better."

If what you cared about is the US minding our own business. Trump is the best you've gotten from us since the 70s and Carter. Obviously when you said that was your standard, you LIED, Darlene. You're another no nuts Democrat

Why are trying to draw a correlation between my extreme dislike of Trump and US invasions. When I think of my dislike of Trump it has nothing to do with invasions. That is the least of my problems with him. As you said, he hasn't invaded anywhere that I know of.

Where have I said I want the US (under any political party) invading? Where have I said Vietnam was okay? Grenada? Gulf War 1? Iraq? Afghanistan?

Minding your own business? You mean slapping tariffs on countries? That's minding your own business? Calling Kim a fuckwit then his mate is not having a affect on the international stage? The funny thing is, the reason he is quiet on the international front is because he is barely holding it together on the domestic front. He hasn't got a clue as to what is going on around him.

Trump put tariffs on countries in order to get them to lower their tariffs. Funny how Democrats love to bring up tariffs but you never mention the part that he then negotiates lower tariffs. I suppose it's because you're so partisan and liars.

While I'm a free trader, WTF? Tariffs on imports to your country is interfering in other countries? I mean seriously, WTF? Well you are a globalist, obviously. But wow

 

[kaz]

His sheep elected him as a big FUCK YOU to this country. He's really come through for them.

For us and YOU too.

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration, 5. 5. 5. created 4 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

LOLOL

I got only as far as ...

"RECORD positive numbers on the economy"​

​

You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever.​

They cut and paste those things, as if their sheer volume will intimidate you from actually reading them or refuting them.

These are not serious people.

Volume is irrelevant when the very first item is bullshit.

Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo.

Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!

 

[Camp]

Trump's recorded lying will be available for future generations forever. Republican support for a known confirmed compulsive serial liar will never be forgotten.

 

[Faun]

Spot the kaz . . .

I don't know the Comm Manifesto inside out.

You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto...

Kaz kazzes, i.e., lies -- that's what he does.

 

[kaz]

Spot the kaz . . .

I don't know the Comm Manifesto inside out.

​

​

​

​

You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto...​

​

Kaz kazzes, i.e., lies -- that's what he does.

Thanks little boy

 

[Faun]

You already lost that one. Give it up. You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto and yet you couldn't think of a single plank that the Democrats are against. So you deflected and told me to list every Democrat and every position, which of course is a logical fallacy called a you're full of shit fallacy

I never said I know the Communist manifesto. In fact, I said almost the opposite. As well as being a coward, you can't read. You are the one saying the Dems are communists, not I. All I'm asking you is to draw parallels. You can't. I didn't think so, because anybody with half a brain the Dems are not Communists. So, now I know you have less than half a brain. Hell, most of what the Dems want isn't even socialism.

You didn't say draw parallels. You said prove it. I did draw parallels, the planks of the communist manifesto. So that was your problem, you didn't know how to Google the planks?

The planks of the Communist Manifesto are the backbone of how government totally controls a country.

And you were in the quote for when another poster who unlike you gave a serious response and I listed many of the key ones to your silence.

But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters. Things like the progressive income tax that reach confiscatory rates. Limiting the ability to leave your own wealth to your heirs with tax rates that again reach confiscatory levels. You can't leave and take your property with you. Government controls land ownership and the airwaves. We are indoctrinated in government education.

That's EXACTLY what Democrats advocate. Then as they have a choke hold on the country like a boa constrictor on its prey then they have us by the short hairs.

Also, like communist governments, Democrats indemnify their own leaders who live in fabulous luxury and wealth because they are more equal than we are.

Democrats are also moving towards endless control and nationalization of our key industries. Medical, financial, energy. And they push their economic policy through endless taxes and regulations of businesses.

There are a whole hell of a lot of "parallels" to anyone with a critical mind

"But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters."

LOLOLOL

And just like that, kaz blows up his own argument.

Wailing for days about how there's isn't a Communist plank Democrats don't oppose ... and he rattles off one of the primary aspects of Communism which Democrats oppose.

 

[Faun]

His sheep elected him as a big FUCK YOU to this country. He's really come through for them.

For us and YOU too.

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration, 5. 5. 5. created 4 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

LOLOL

I got only as far as ...

"RECORD positive numbers on the economy"​

​

You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever.​

They cut and paste those things, as if their sheer volume will intimidate you from actually reading them or refuting them.

These are not serious people.

Volume is irrelevant when the very first item is bullshit.

Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo.

Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!

"Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo."

I did earlier when I replied to gramps' post.

"Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!"

You’re kazzing again. I never said coronavirus is Impeached Trump's fault. Not once. I said his response to it was abysmal.

 

[Faun]

Spot the kaz . . .

I don't know the Comm Manifesto inside out.

​

​

​

​

You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto...​

​

Kaz kazzes, i.e., lies -- that's what he does.

Thanks little boy

View attachment 390125

You're welcome.

 

[kaz]

You already lost that one. Give it up. You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto and yet you couldn't think of a single plank that the Democrats are against. So you deflected and told me to list every Democrat and every position, which of course is a logical fallacy called a you're full of shit fallacy

I never said I know the Communist manifesto. In fact, I said almost the opposite. As well as being a coward, you can't read. You are the one saying the Dems are communists, not I. All I'm asking you is to draw parallels. You can't. I didn't think so, because anybody with half a brain the Dems are not Communists. So, now I know you have less than half a brain. Hell, most of what the Dems want isn't even socialism.

You didn't say draw parallels. You said prove it. I did draw parallels, the planks of the communist manifesto. So that was your problem, you didn't know how to Google the planks?

The planks of the Communist Manifesto are the backbone of how government totally controls a country.

And you were in the quote for when another poster who unlike you gave a serious response and I listed many of the key ones to your silence.

But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters. Things like the progressive income tax that reach confiscatory rates. Limiting the ability to leave your own wealth to your heirs with tax rates that again reach confiscatory levels. You can't leave and take your property with you. Government controls land ownership and the airwaves. We are indoctrinated in government education.

That's EXACTLY what Democrats advocate. Then as they have a choke hold on the country like a boa constrictor on its prey then they have us by the short hairs.

Also, like communist governments, Democrats indemnify their own leaders who live in fabulous luxury and wealth because they are more equal than we are.

Democrats are also moving towards endless control and nationalization of our key industries. Medical, financial, energy. And they push their economic policy through endless taxes and regulations of businesses.

There are a whole hell of a lot of "parallels" to anyone with a critical mind

"But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters."

LOLOLOL

And just like that, kaz blows up his own argument.

Wailing for days about how there's isn't a Communist plank Democrats don't oppose ... and he rattles off one of the primary aspects of Communism which Democrats oppose.

Note you couldn't contradict any of the planks that I cited that supported that.

The more you earn the more government takes. You can't leave significant inheritance. You can't leave the country with it. There is no way under Democrat to permanently own property

 

[kaz]

His sheep elected him as a big FUCK YOU to this country. He's really come through for them.

For us and YOU too.

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration, 5. 5. 5. created 4 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

LOLOL

I got only as far as ...

"RECORD positive numbers on the economy"​

​

You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever.​

They cut and paste those things, as if their sheer volume will intimidate you from actually reading them or refuting them.

These are not serious people.

Volume is irrelevant when the very first item is bullshit.

Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo.

Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!

"Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo."

I did earlier when I replied to gramps' post.

"Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!"

You’re kazzing again. I never said coronavirus is Impeached Trump's fault. Not once. I said his response to it was abysmal.

That's your lame attempt to circumvent that you constantly blame Trump for the Biden virus. You and every other brainless Democrat. No one buys that stupid shit. Obviously you constantly blame Trump for the virus.

And as in this discussion, you're blaming Trump for the shutdown. Which is clearly blaming him for the Biden virus

"You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever."​

That is CLEARLY blaming Trump for the virus, kiddo

 

[Faun]

You already lost that one. Give it up. You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto and yet you couldn't think of a single plank that the Democrats are against. So you deflected and told me to list every Democrat and every position, which of course is a logical fallacy called a you're full of shit fallacy

I never said I know the Communist manifesto. In fact, I said almost the opposite. As well as being a coward, you can't read. You are the one saying the Dems are communists, not I. All I'm asking you is to draw parallels. You can't. I didn't think so, because anybody with half a brain the Dems are not Communists. So, now I know you have less than half a brain. Hell, most of what the Dems want isn't even socialism.

You didn't say draw parallels. You said prove it. I did draw parallels, the planks of the communist manifesto. So that was your problem, you didn't know how to Google the planks?

The planks of the Communist Manifesto are the backbone of how government totally controls a country.

And you were in the quote for when another poster who unlike you gave a serious response and I listed many of the key ones to your silence.

But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters. Things like the progressive income tax that reach confiscatory rates. Limiting the ability to leave your own wealth to your heirs with tax rates that again reach confiscatory levels. You can't leave and take your property with you. Government controls land ownership and the airwaves. We are indoctrinated in government education.

That's EXACTLY what Democrats advocate. Then as they have a choke hold on the country like a boa constrictor on its prey then they have us by the short hairs.

Also, like communist governments, Democrats indemnify their own leaders who live in fabulous luxury and wealth because they are more equal than we are.

Democrats are also moving towards endless control and nationalization of our key industries. Medical, financial, energy. And they push their economic policy through endless taxes and regulations of businesses.

There are a whole hell of a lot of "parallels" to anyone with a critical mind

"But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters."

LOLOLOL

And just like that, kaz blows up his own argument.

Wailing for days about how there's isn't a Communist plank Democrats don't oppose ... and he rattles off one of the primary aspects of Communism which Democrats oppose.

Note you couldn't contradict any of the planks that I cited that supported that.

The more you earn the more government takes. You can't leave significant inheritance. You can't leave the country with it. There is no way under Democrat to permanently own property

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you owned yourself. You literally destroyed your own claim that there isn't a Communist plank Democrats oppose by rattling off a Communist plank that Democrats oppose.

As far as taxes ... it was Republicans who gave us a progressive tax system. The first progressive taxes were passed under a Republican Congress and signed into law by Lincoln, a Republican president. That same Congress and president gave us our first income taxes. The 16th Amendment expanded that. The 16th Amendment was passed by a Republican Congress in 1909 and ratified under a Republican president in 1913.

First you owned yourself, now I owned you too. This would be a good time for you to ignore everything I posted and cry about how I'm just a kid.

 

[Faun]

His sheep elected him as a big FUCK YOU to this country. He's really come through for them.

For us and YOU too.

1. RECORD positive numbers on the economy,
2. stopped the absurd practice of giving China unrestricted access to our valuable market,
3. holding China accountable for cyber theft,
4. taking Mexico and Central American countries to task for illegal immigration, 5. 5. 5. created 4 million jobs, created over 400,000 manufacturing jobs,
6. unemployment claims hit 50 year low, highest median wage in US history,
7. lowest unemployment for blacks, Hispanics, Asians, and disabled in US history, 8.lowest unemployment for women in over 70 years,
9. lowest unemployment rate ever recorded for Americans without a high school diploma,
10. 4 million Americans off food stamps,
11. vocational training topped 4 million - highest ever,
12. opened ANWR and approved Keystone XL and Dakota Access Pipelines thereby making America # 1 energy producer in the world (no other president ever did that), 13. Obamacare individual mandate penalty GONE,
14. FDA approved more affordable generic drugs than ever before in history. > drug companies are freezing or reversing planned price increases,
15. reformed the Medicare program to stop hospitals from overcharging low-income seniors on their drugs—saving seniors hundreds of millions of dollars,
16. Signed Right-To-Try legislation,
17. $6 billion in NEW funding to fight the opioid epidemic (the most ever),
18. Signed VA Choice Act and VA Accountability Act,
19. expanded VA telehealth services, walk-in-clinics, and same-day urgent primary and mental health care (I got surgeries and benefits from this myself),
20. United States is a net natural gas exporter for the first time since 1957,
21. withdrew the United States from the job-killing Paris Climate Accord,
22. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
23. made the Space Force the 6th branch of the Armed Forces,
24. withdrew from the horrible, one-sided Iran Deal, 25. moved U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem,
25. protected Americans from terrorists with the Travel Ban, upheld by Supreme Court, 26. issued Executive Order to keep open Guantanamo Bay,
27. MCA deal,
28. reached a breakthrough agreement with the E.U. to increase U.S. exports
29. pressured NATO allies, and they're spending $69 billion more on defense since 2016,
30. net exports increased $59 Billion in 2018,
31. improved vetting and screening for refugees, and switched focus to overseas resettlement,
32. we have begun BUILDING THE WALL.
33. provided quality detention centers for migrant children in Southwest Key Programs
34. created 8,700 Opportunity Zones with investment incentives for companies to invest in distressed communities
35. Got Israel/UAE aggreement establishing Middle East peace
36. Defeated ISIS and killed their leaders incl. # 1 al Baghdadi.
37. Killed Iranian terrorist leader Sulemani.
38. Stopped domestic terrorist mobs by sending federal troops & National Guard
39. record of number of regulations cut, further boosting the economy
40. highest median wage in US history
41. rebuilt the US military to a $721 Billion/yr budget
42. increased wages for military personnel
43. We found out when we expected President Trump to lead us through a COVID pandemic, as our Covid mortality rate was REDUCED from over 17,000/week in April. to less than 1,000 this week, as a result of the many smart things that the president has done. > it's a HUGE SUCCESS.
44. Ventilators (we now have so many we're exporting them),
45. the Navy hospital ships sent to New York,
46. the stimulus checks,
47. The Task Force advice (ex. social distancing),
48. opposition/criticism of New York's dumb nursing home policies,
49. federal aid to hospitals,
50. travel bans (which Democrats called Trump a "racist' for),
51. Trump's advocacy of hydroxychloriquin (now proven to be effective, despite criticism from Democrats),
52. fast, continual development of a vaccine.

LOLOL

I got only as far as ...

"RECORD positive numbers on the economy"​

​

You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever.​

They cut and paste those things, as if their sheer volume will intimidate you from actually reading them or refuting them.

These are not serious people.

Volume is irrelevant when the very first item is bullshit.

Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo.

Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!

"Yes, nice Demonstration of that, kiddo."

I did earlier when I replied to gramps' post.

"Faun: The coronavirus is Trump's fault!"

You’re kazzing again. I never said coronavirus is Impeached Trump's fault. Not once. I said his response to it was abysmal.

That's your lame attempt to circumvent that you constantly blame Trump for the Biden virus. You and every other brainless Democrat. No one buys that stupid shit. Obviously you constantly blame Trump for the virus.

And as in this discussion, you're blaming Trump for the shutdown. Which is clearly blaming him for the Biden virus

"You mean record negative numbers. I believe the record for negative real GDP growth was around -9%​

​

Impeached Trump shattered that record with his own ... -33%. A record that may last forever."​

That is CLEARLY blaming Trump for the virus, kiddo

Your dementia is not my problem. Blaming Impeached Trump for the shutdown is blaming his pathetic response to the virus which led to the need for the shut down.

 

[jc456]

'Play it down': Trump admits to concealing the true threat of coronavirus in new Woodward book

President Donald Trump admitted he knew weeks before the first confirmed US coronavirus death that the virus was dangerous, airborne, highly contagious and "more deadly than even your strenuous flus," and that he repeatedly played it down publicly, according to legendary journalist Bob Woodward...

www.cnn.com

There is nothing left to be said.

Report was debunked. Fake News.

Next...

Everything is Fake News now. According to Trump, there aren't any facts any more. Unfortunately for him, facts do still exist.

Fake News was here long before Trump and you fell for it because you're a weak minded sheep.

The only weak minded sheep here are those who believe the AH Trump, whose daddy got him in and out of college ,ahead of scientists ,,generals, and experts in foreign affairs. He's made a mockery of Americas standing in the world.

Only whiny libberss care about "standing in the world". At least we finally dumped the idiot muslim running around apologizing for America.

Yes Brownie NOW we have a Russian ass kisser in our WH So much better??? Real Unemployment 11,12%? People losing their homes? No plans by the moron in our WH to fight this virus?? It'll disappear?? Oh yeah We have it so much better with Trump than we had with Obama And pigs fly

The virus is the flu it merely needs a vaccine which is coming. Obammy wore kneepads to visit Putin and you babble about Trump? Your virus hoax made him shut down the country which was a mistake which he is fixing now. And yes, all real Americans have it much better now with jobs and a booming economy I cannot speak for you America hating dregs.

LOL THE HOAX is now in the red states How many must die for the AH and his tribe to get a fn clue?? I weep for those who die in Red states as well as those in Blue Your moron is one sick pos

Red states continue to have the lowest mortality rates in the country stop lying...more cases is good not bad lying libber.

they don't get it. the more positive cases without symptoms shows how weak the virus really is.

Dumbfuck, it doesn't alter the actual mortality rate. It only gives us a more accurate mortality rate.

More positive cases results in more deaths. It's sad that you cons can't understand that.

Again, which room has more deaths (more than likely) A or B?

LOL

You're such an abject imbecile, there's no fucking way you're a banker. Rather than toy with your dishonest and made up figures, let's use actual figures. And your figures are dishonest because you're making up proportions out of thin air as opposed to assuming the disease would infect age groups within a close proximity as it has for the last 6 months.

This projection is reaching herd mentality of 70%, according to the Mayo Clinic, based on the current known infection rate 2.08% of the population.

AGE	DEATHS	POPULATION	PROJECTION
<1	20​	3,848,208​	673​
1-4	14​	15,962,067​	471​
5-14	30​	41,075,169​	1,009​
15-24	333​	42,970,800​	11,205​
25-34	1,405​	45,697,774​	47,277​
35-44	3,675​	41,277,888​	123,661​
45-54	9,694​	41,631,699​	326,196​
55-64	21,134​	42,272,636​	711,145​
65-74	39,129​	30,492,316​	1,316,664​
75-84	48,136​	15,394,374​	1,619,744​
85+	56,525​	6,544,503​	1,902,028​
TOTAL	180,095​	327,167,434​	6,060,074​

So herd mentality would cost America somewhere in the neighborhood of 230 million infected and some 6 million people dead.

And likely far, far more once you consider our healthcare system would be too overwhelmed to treat more than a small percentage of that.

Do you see now why so many posters here think of you as a fucking moron?

Room A or B? I am talking hypothesis only. Never said otherwise, Captain Literal.

LOL

Why on Earth would we play with hypotheticals, ShortBus, when we have actual figures at hand?

Because the past doesn’t always predict the future. Ask the Atlanta Falcons about the last SB they were in. Understood? You waste of life.

You better learn from the past my jewish friend ,so you don't make the same mistakes

I have. I see how the Democrats don’t want my vote.

Or mine. they have no issue insulting americans.

 

[kaz]

You already lost that one. Give it up. You claimed to know all about the Communist Manifesto and yet you couldn't think of a single plank that the Democrats are against. So you deflected and told me to list every Democrat and every position, which of course is a logical fallacy called a you're full of shit fallacy

I never said I know the Communist manifesto. In fact, I said almost the opposite. As well as being a coward, you can't read. You are the one saying the Dems are communists, not I. All I'm asking you is to draw parallels. You can't. I didn't think so, because anybody with half a brain the Dems are not Communists. So, now I know you have less than half a brain. Hell, most of what the Dems want isn't even socialism.

You didn't say draw parallels. You said prove it. I did draw parallels, the planks of the communist manifesto. So that was your problem, you didn't know how to Google the planks?

The planks of the Communist Manifesto are the backbone of how government totally controls a country.

And you were in the quote for when another poster who unlike you gave a serious response and I listed many of the key ones to your silence.

But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters. Things like the progressive income tax that reach confiscatory rates. Limiting the ability to leave your own wealth to your heirs with tax rates that again reach confiscatory levels. You can't leave and take your property with you. Government controls land ownership and the airwaves. We are indoctrinated in government education.

That's EXACTLY what Democrats advocate. Then as they have a choke hold on the country like a boa constrictor on its prey then they have us by the short hairs.

Also, like communist governments, Democrats indemnify their own leaders who live in fabulous luxury and wealth because they are more equal than we are.

Democrats are also moving towards endless control and nationalization of our key industries. Medical, financial, energy. And they push their economic policy through endless taxes and regulations of businesses.

There are a whole hell of a lot of "parallels" to anyone with a critical mind

"But the key is that the State owns property and we are temporary renters."

LOLOLOL

And just like that, kaz blows up his own argument.

Wailing for days about how there's isn't a Communist plank Democrats don't oppose ... and he rattles off one of the primary aspects of Communism which Democrats oppose.

Note you couldn't contradict any of the planks that I cited that supported that.

The more you earn the more government takes. You can't leave significant inheritance. You can't leave the country with it. There is no way under Democrat to permanently own property

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, you owned yourself. You literally destroyed your own claim that there isn't a Communist plank Democrats oppose by rattling off a Communist plank that Democrats oppose.

As far as taxes ... it was Republicans who gave us a progressive tax system. The first progressive taxes were passed under a Republican Congress and signed into law by Lincoln, a Republican president. That same Congress and president gave us our first income taxes. The 16th Amendment expanded that. The 16th Amendment was passed by a Republican Congress in 1909 and ratified under a Republican president in 1913.

First you owned yourself, now I owned you too. This would be a good time for you to ignore everything I posted and cry about how I'm just a kid.

Democrats don't support a progressive tax because a Republican put in the first progressive tax. That actually passes as an argument in your third grade debates at school, doesn't it, kiddie?