Trump Lowers Tariffs on Chinese Goods To 30%.

From what I have seen, Trump supporters aren't big on reading. They do even less well when it comes to thinking.
You think democrats are any better on any of those counts?
 
No. Trump raises Tariffs to 30%.

So, does that make you happy? I can't afford things at the prices they are. So it doesn't make me happy to think I am going to have to start paying 30% more for the products from China. And who knows what the tariffs on other countries will mean.
 
So, does that make you happy? I can't afford things at the prices they are. So it doesn't make me happy to think I am going to have to start paying 30% more for the products from China. And who knows what the tariffs on other countries will mean.
Yes it does. We should ban trade with China.
 
That is down from the 145% tariff he had in place. I wonder what caused Trump to regain some rationality. It's hard to say. And who knows if they will stay that low compared to what they were. Also, though I looked, I couldn't find anything about Trump lowering the tariffs he had on other countries as well. If anybody has found a reliable website on that account, feel free to post it.

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Yes it does. We should ban trade with China.
whoa. Making things a bit more expensive and lessening deficits (assuming the idiots in the maga house don't just increase spending and tax cuts) isn't all bad. Jina defaulting on debt wouldn't be all that great, but sure Vietnam can make things as cheaply. And we are making temu teeshirts
 
whoa. Making things a bit more expensive and lessening deficits (assuming the idiots in the maga house don't just increase spending and tax cuts) isn't all bad. Jina defaulting on debt wouldn't be all that great, but sure Vietnam can make things as cheaply. And we are making temu teeshirts
My view is that trade with China is a strategic catastrophe.
 
Except lowering tariffs all the way down to 30% defeats the original purpose of trump's tariffs. He did those tariffs to 1) Punish China 2) Raise revenue from imports 3) Bring back manufacturing to the US. Not only does this in no way accomplish any of these points, he didn't get a single concession from China to bring down his tariffs. That's some "negotiating" tactic. This must be what they call the Art of the Deal.

Trump will win the tariff battle. Americans will win and you will lose.
 
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I can't disagree, given it's not like Jina is opening markets to our goods, and there are other places to offshore building some stuff.
They are also using the proceeds to build their military with an eventual goal of potentially going to war with us over Taiwan.
 
They are also using the proceeds to build their military with an eventual goal of potentially going to war with us over Taiwan.
I don't care all that much about Taiwan, although I'd rather let them in here than leave them to the Jinese. But, the chinese folks really don't seem to care for individual rights, and their govt does view trade as a weapon for gaining world power. And, before 9-11, presidents were kept in check by global traders, which limited their ability to wage elective wars for fun and profit.
 
They are also using the proceeds to build their military with an eventual goal of potentially going to war with us over Taiwan.
I don't think their goal is going to war with us. They aren't that stupid. They are after more of an exclusionary "sphere of influence" sort of thing. I'm just waiting for rising oceans to wash away those fake islands they keep building.
 

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