I know that Trump is a pathological liar. But from everything he said, he was serious about all the tariffs he put into place. The stock market thought so. The ships from China that were no longer showing up in American ports thought so. And I think that it was the second that had more to do with Trump lowering his tariffs on Chinese goods. Also, "maybe" with those tariffs at 145%, it could have caused some manufacturing to return to the U.S. But the 30% it now is isn't going to do a damn thing. And wasn't that the whole point to begin with? Though I have to say that a 30% tariff is more than the 3.5 or so tariff we had before on Chinese goods. But the difference is only going to come out of the pocket of the consumer. Another thing is that as I said before, China is basically a wage slave country to begin with. It is unethical to expect more from those who were slaves to begin with.