Trump Leveraging Ukraine Military Aid For Dirt On Joe Biden

[Zorro!]

Okay, we know what Biden said - so now let Trump release the whistleblower complaint so we can learn what Trump said.

The conversation is privileged. It's claimed that there is a witness with a transcript of the call, let them produce it.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So a Deep State anti-Trump Intel Agency hold-over who is just begging to be added to the US IG's list of conspirators recommended to the US AG for indictment leaks information he did not even hear 1st hand, bringing up the Biden-Ukraine Scandal 'center stage', so Nadler and Schiff can demonstrate Pavlov's experiment about how when a bell is rung a conditioned dog will begin to salivate / react as trained...and right on cue they attempt to use the Counter-Intelligence propaganda spin on Biden's scandal to keep Obama's failed coup attempt alive...

Bwuhahaha....

Now that the Ukraine President has come forward to defend President Trump and squash the latest anti-Trump false narrative, all that the whistle blower and seditious / treasonous leftist media have accomplished with this latest scheme is to make Biden the victim of 'friendly fire' by bringing up HIS old, almost-forgotten/ignored Ukraine scandal.

BOOMERANG!

LOL! Way to go, Democrats...you have the 'circular firing squad' still working overtime.

2 and a half years of investigation and the key document causing the investigation leftist now are saying it wasn't the reason FISA warrants weren't issued. Can you believe that crap?

That wasn't the key document. It was the document Trump talked about all the time, so you cult members believe it is.

You said it wasn't used for Fisa warrants.

I said it was not the reason for the warrants.

The dossier was used to obtain FISA warrants.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Trump could tell them to shit and they'll ask what color

Millions of his cult followers would go sit on toilets trying to shit even if they didn't need to. Some would OD on laxatives attempting to please their messiah.

I always considered Hillary Clinton a female but if you want to call her a man who AM I to suggest that you shouldn't.

Weak.

you leftist worshiped at the temple of Clinton

65 million Americans voted for her. 62 million Americans voted for trump.

and you leftist worship at the altar of Hillary Clinton

 

[westwall]

If any of this is true........Damn, It leaves me speechless.

Holy shit batman! You mean he's doing the same thing thg he DNC and the shrilary campaign did!

Say it ain't so....joe!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Jim McCabe testified under oath that they were. FISA is for spying on FOREIGNERS. The only way it can be used to spy on US Citizens is with solid evidence that the American is working as a SPY for a foreign government. The Groundless Assertions in the Clinton Purchased Dossier is the ONLY source for for the claims that Carter Page was spying for the Russians.

The DOJ, FBI and the IC used the dossier as a pretext to fool the FISC into authorizing the illegal spying, secure in the knowledge that Hillary was going to win and that one would ever be the wiser....OOPS!

The Clowns on the Left try to equate this to Watergate, and that would work, HAD MCGOVERN BEEN ELECTED and then as his administration took over the Executive Branch, slowly learned how the previous administration had illegally spied on his campaign, even while launching a campaign to drive him from office.

Bullshit. And who is Jim McCabe?

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

 

[Zorro!]

The more the media and Democrats attack Trump while trying to protect Biden from scrutiny of his family dealings abroad, the more the media focuses attention on Biden and raises the same sort of questions that turned Hillary Clinton’s campaign into a campaign about her emails. Oft evil will shall evil mar.

We are in the middle of a media feeding frenzy over a supposed intelligence community whistleblower complaint on Trump’s conversation last summer with the Ukrainian president.

We know almost nothing about the complaint or the conversation, but that has not stopped a full-blown “we’ve got him now!” type joyfulness throughout the mainstream media and Never-Trump-land.

Lack of actual facts has not stopped Democrat candidates and various pundits from declaring that this is further ground for impeachment.

• The initial claim was that Trump threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine if it didn’t investigate the business dealings of Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, while Joe was Vice President.
• Then the story changed, and maybe there wasn’t a quid pro quo,
• and maybe the whistleblower never actually heard the conversation.

And so on and so on, a classic case of how the media tries and convicts Trump based on anonymous, shifting, and usually misinformed leaks.

The foreign minister of Ukraine is now on record that there was no pressure put on the Ukrainian president in the conversation.

There is an important story here that may take down a candidate. That candidate isn’t Donald Trump, it’s Joe Biden.

The Ukraine reports of possible influence peddling, along with a similar report regarding the Bidens’ dealings in China, has been reported in the past. It’s not new, but is never took hold in any media narrative because it’s not helpful in bringing down Trump, which is the measure of news value in the mainstream media these days.

But it has potential value to the media because of the claim of Trump misconduct in seeking a Ukrainian investigation of the Hunter Biden’s business dealings. So it’s all out media coverage.

That is a problem for Joe Biden, because most of the country is hearing about this for the first time, and the narrative quickly shifted — over media protests — from Trump allegedly improperly demanding an investigation to Joe and Hunter Biden allegedly engaging in conduct that should be investigated.

The narrative shift is almost entirely the result of Trump taking to Twitter to defend himself, including with this devastating video compilation:


Donald J. Trump

✔@realDonaldTrump
This is the real and only story!



Chris Hayes from MSNBC is frustrated at the narrative change:


Chris Hayes

✔@chrislhayes
I am watching this somehow turn into a story about Biden and am going to pass out.

As is Brian Beutler of lefty Crooked Media, who calls it the “email-servering of Joe Biden” – a reference to how Hillary’s email server controversy consumed her campaign:


Brian Beutler

✔@brianbeutler
The email-servering of Joe Biden has begun, and abetted by members of his own party who won't draw a line for him. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-scandal-may-also-hurt-bidens-campaign/2019/09/20/772aaba0-dbe6-11e9-ac63-3016711543fe_story.html …


Scrutiny over Trump’s Ukraine scandal may also complicate Biden’s campaign
The story is inextricably linked to the Democratic front-runner’s son, pushing one of the topics that Biden is least comfortable discussing into the spotlight.

washingtonpost.com

Dang, why, this isn't how some folks expected this to turn out, at all!

 

[Faun]

Bullshit. And who is Jim McCabe?

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

PussyBitch, even Zorro! admitted he got the name wrong.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Bullshit. And who is Jim McCabe?

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

I misspoke, it's Andy McCabe. Thank you for bringing my error to my attention.

He's just being obtuse.most people know who McCabe is regardless about the first name.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

PussyBitch, even Zorro! admitted he got the name wrong.

He said he misspoke on the first name
But everybody should know who McCabe is ***** Why is this even part of the discussion

 

[Zorro!]

Left Swings at Trump, Takes Out Biden

The story begins with the fact that the Biden family took advantage of Joe’s status as vice president to get rich through foreign connections, principally China and Ukraine. This is a common phenomenon–a Democratic politician labors away for years at a modest salary, then retires a rich man. How does that happen, exactly? Corruption.

Here, Joe Biden revealed the real scandal. A Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating a company in which Hunter Biden was involved, and Joe bragged that he had gotten Ukraine’s government to fire the prosecutor by threatening to cut off $1 billion in loan guarantees. That is a real scandal, and a real abuse of executive power.

It is entirely appropriate for President Trump to want to know whether Joe Biden really did abuse his office as vice president to that extent. Not only is the scandal highly relevant per se, but it would represent a serious disruption of relations between the U.S. and Ukraine that ought to be of interest to the president. So I don’t think Trump can be faulted for urging Ukraine’s government to reopen the investigation that Joe Biden says he squashed. It was the right thing to do.

 

[SweetSue92]

Left Swings at Trump, Takes Out Biden

The story begins with the fact that the Biden family took advantage of Joe’s status as vice president to get rich through foreign connections, principally China and Ukraine. This is a common phenomenon–a Democratic politician labors away for years at a modest salary, then retires a rich man. How does that happen, exactly? Corruption.

Here, Joe Biden revealed the real scandal. A Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating a company in which Hunter Biden was involved, and Joe bragged that he had gotten Ukraine’s government to fire the prosecutor by threatening to cut off $1 billion in loan guarantees. That is a real scandal, and a real abuse of executive power.

It is entirely appropriate for President Trump to want to know whether Joe Biden really did abuse his office as vice president to that extent. Not only is the scandal highly relevant per se, but it would represent a serious disruption of relations between the U.S. and Ukraine that ought to be of interest to the president. So I don’t think Trump can be faulted for urging Ukraine’s government to reopen the investigation that Joe Biden says he squashed. It was the right thing to do.

I'm not tired of winning.

Who's tired of winning????

 

[Care4all]

There are DOJ legal means to investigate corruption in a foreign country..... we have a PROCEDURE for doing such. The president is not a party to that protocol.

If the President used his position in gvt for oppo on his rival,

That is ILLEGAL.

 

[IM2]

So a Deep State anti-Trump Intel Agency hold-over who is just begging to be added to the US IG's list of conspirators recommended to the US AG for indictment leaks information he did not even hear 1st hand, bringing up the Biden-Ukraine Scandal 'center stage', so Nadler and Schiff can demonstrate Pavlov's experiment about how when a bell is rung a conditioned dog will begin to salivate / react as trained...and right on cue they attempt to use the Counter-Intelligence propaganda spin on Biden's scandal to keep Obama's failed coup attempt alive...

Bwuhahaha....

Now that the Ukraine President has come forward to defend President Trump and squash the latest anti-Trump false narrative, all that the whistle blower and seditious / treasonous leftist media have accomplished with this latest scheme is to make Biden the victim of 'friendly fire' by bringing up HIS old, almost-forgotten/ignored Ukraine scandal.

BOOMERANG!

LOL! Way to go, Democrats...you have the 'circular firing squad' still working overtime.

2 and a half years of investigation and the key document causing the investigation leftist now are saying it wasn't the reason FISA warrants weren't issued. Can you believe that crap?

That wasn't the key document. It was the document Trump talked about all the time, so you cult members believe it is.

You said it wasn't used for Fisa warrants.

I said it was not the reason for the warrants.

The dossier was used to obtain FISA warrants.

The dossier by itself was not what caused the warrants to be issued. Understand?

 

[IM2]

Left Swings at Trump, Takes Out Biden

The story begins with the fact that the Biden family took advantage of Joe’s status as vice president to get rich through foreign connections, principally China and Ukraine. This is a common phenomenon–a Democratic politician labors away for years at a modest salary, then retires a rich man. How does that happen, exactly? Corruption.

Here, Joe Biden revealed the real scandal. A Ukrainian prosecutor was investigating a company in which Hunter Biden was involved, and Joe bragged that he had gotten Ukraine’s government to fire the prosecutor by threatening to cut off $1 billion in loan guarantees. That is a real scandal, and a real abuse of executive power.

It is entirely appropriate for President Trump to want to know whether Joe Biden really did abuse his office as vice president to that extent. Not only is the scandal highly relevant per se, but it would represent a serious disruption of relations between the U.S. and Ukraine that ought to be of interest to the president. So I don’t think Trump can be faulted for urging Ukraine’s government to reopen the investigation that Joe Biden says he squashed. It was the right thing to do.

I'm not tired of winning.

Who's tired of winning????

But you aren't winning.

 

[IM2]

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

PussyBitch, even Zorro! admitted he got the name wrong.

He said he misspoke on the first name
But everybody should know who McCabe is ***** Why is this even part of the discussion

We will do unto right wingers as they do unto everyone else. Had a liberal made that mistake it would be used on them in every post in every thread that liberal entered into for the foreseeable future. Unlike the democratic leadership, we will be getting down in the mud since that's where you lying sacks of shit want to go.

 

[IM2]

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

I misspoke, it's Andy McCabe. Thank you for bringing my error to my attention.

He's just being obtuse.most people know who McCabe is regardless about the first name.

Nope. You bitches ask for links for things everybody knows is true, you play spelling and grammar Nazi, and if a liberal slips up on a name you jump them. Just learn to get the facts before you post.

 

[IM2]

Bullshit. And who is Jim McCabe?

OMG you should back away now.

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

Then you low foreheads ought to know his first name.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

2 and a half years of investigation and the key document causing the investigation leftist now are saying it wasn't the reason FISA warrants weren't issued. Can you believe that crap?

That wasn't the key document. It was the document Trump talked about all the time, so you cult members believe it is.

You said it wasn't used for Fisa warrants.

I said it was not the reason for the warrants.

The dossier was used to obtain FISA warrants.

The dossier by itself was not what caused the warrants to be issued. Understand?

The dossier was the sole piece of evidence for the fisa warrants

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

The name McCabe is a dead giveaway even for you single-digit comprehensioners.

PussyBitch, even Zorro! admitted he got the name wrong.

He said he misspoke on the first name
But everybody should know who McCabe is ***** Why is this even part of the discussion

We will do unto right wingers as they do unto everyone else. Had a liberal made that mistake it would be used on them in every post in every thread that liberal entered into for the foreseeable future. Unlike the democratic leadership, we will be getting down in the mud since that's where you lying sacks of shit want to go.

You're a funny turd take a flush

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Ok kid, why don't you tell us who you think Jim McCabe is.

Dumb ass child everybody knows the name of McCabe

And does everybody think his name is Jim McCabe?

I misspoke, it's Andy McCabe. Thank you for bringing my error to my attention.

He's just being obtuse.most people know who McCabe is regardless about the first name.

Nope. You bitches ask for links for things everybody knows is true, you play spelling and grammar Nazi, and if a liberal slips up on a name you jump them. Just learn to get the facts before you post.

Anyone in a policial discussion who doesn't know who McCABE IS SHOULD STOP WHINING AND LEAVE THE DISCUSSION.