Trump leads all in new primary poll...

[Godboy]

That's an old poll. The latest one I saw has Biden ahead of Trump.

Thats is false. Here is one from yesterday....

2024 Poll: DeSantis Falls Behind Trump, Democratic Field Remains Unclear

See multiple perspectives from Newsweek, Fox News Digital, and CNN Digital at AllSides.com.

www.allsides.com

 

[XponentialChaos]

Yes, Trump is leading Biden. DeSantis is ALSO leading Biden.

DeSantis and Trump top Biden in potential 2024 showdown in battleground Nevada: poll | Fox News

Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and former President Trump both top President Biden in the key western swing state of Nevada in hypothetical 2024 election matchups.

www.google.com

That’s in Nevada.

Here’s an interesting one.

Democratic support for Biden in 2024 rises while Republicans grow skeptical of Trump: poll

A new poll suggests an increasing number of Democrats are embracing the idea of a President Biden 2024 re-election campaign, while a growing number of Republicans are suspect about Donald Trump.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Godboy]

That’s in Nevada.

Here’s an interesting one.

Democratic support for Biden in 2024 rises while Republicans grow skeptical of Trump: poll

A new poll suggests an increasing number of Democrats are embracing the idea of a President Biden 2024 re-election campaign, while a growing number of Republicans are suspect about Donald Trump.

www.foxnews.com

"Rising" doesnt mean "beating", but nice try.

 

[XponentialChaos]

"Rising" doesnt mean "beating", but nice try.

And yours is just in Nevada. Doesn’t mean anyone is beating anyone.

Some more info from the poll I posted:

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maristpoll.marist.edu

Trump has a 68% approval rating from Republicans and right-leaning Independents.

Biden has an 83% approval rating from Democrats and left-leaning Independents.

Not exactly head-to-head, but interesting nonetheless. I‘m not sure what you’re celebrating about.

 

[YoursTruly]

so we should destroy our economy to save theirs? wouldn't it be easier to just seal the border to illegal entry?

Equalizing our dollar with something like the Peso would actually save ours in the long run. The value of the USD is an arbitrary value anyways. It's not even close to be actual. And the inflation numbers they use are arbitrary as well.
And no one would be losing any value if the USD's value was reset.

Which would you rather have.
1. $100 that buys $10 worth of stuff
2. $10 that buys $10 worth of stuff

If you got paid 80% LESS per week and it paid for the same exact things that you pay for now, what would it matter?

Here's where it does matter. (2 examples)
ATM, Mexicans come to the USA and get paid something like $10 per HOUR. Where as in Mexico, they're making $20 per DAY. (minimum wage in MX is $7 per DAY (not hour)
If $20 per day was a decent wage here also, what would be the benefit of coming here? Free healthcare? They have that in Mexico.

Example #2. American companies outsource jobs because it's much MUCH cheaper to pay the above foreign wage, than what Americans have to have here, just to stay afloat. And so, we lose jobs. There's a lot of industries that have left this country simply because the overhead is just too high for them to compete on the global market.
We not longer make many clothes, no TV's or cell phones anymore. There's only 1 computer company still here in the USA. The list of industries that have left or outsourced a LOT of our jobs is (in the last decade or two) is a long one.
Reducing the amount of wages will bring a LOT of those jobs back. Those companies could afford to manufacture here again, and still compete globally.

Let's do some math, shall we?

1 company of 500 employee's. 40hr week. (Benefits not included)

American company at the national blue collar wage average.
$25.66 per hour X 40hrs = $1026.40 X 500 employees = Per week $513,200. X 50 weeks $25,660,000.

Mexican company with the same criteria: (A manufacturing employee in Mexico usually earns around 22,700 MXN per month (USD 1135.75).

$1135.75 per month X 500 employees = 567,875 X 12 months = 6,814,500

$25,660,000 - $6,814,500 is a savings of $18,845,500.

If the USD was equalized, and that same $1135 per month bought you the same as what $4,400 bought, then what difference would it make to anyone here in the USA? But it would make a huge difference in where American companies could manufacture. In fact, it would be cheaper to manufacture here in the USA, because they could save on shipping charges they paying to bring those products to the USA.

It's a win win for the USA, no matter how you slice this.

 

[YoursTruly]

We need to invade oil and gold rich Mexico; they treat their people like crap anyway.

You sound like George W. Bush.

 

[Indeependent]

Equalizing our dollar with something like the Peso would actually save ours in the long run. The value of the USD is an arbitrary value anyways. It's not even close to be actual. And the inflation numbers they use are arbitrary as well.
And no one would be losing any value if the USD's value was reset.

Which would you rather have.
1. $100 that buys $10 worth of stuff
2. $10 that buys $10 worth of stuff

If you got paid 80% LESS per week and it paid for the same exact things that you pay for now, what would it matter?

Here's where it does matter. (2 examples)
ATM, Mexicans come to the USA and get paid something like $10 per HOUR. Where as in Mexico, they're making $20 per DAY. (minimum wage in MX is $7 per DAY (not hour)
If $20 per day was a decent wage here also, what would be the benefit of coming here? Free healthcare? They have that in Mexico.

Example #2. American companies outsource jobs because it's much MUCH cheaper to pay the above foreign wage, than what Americans have to have here, just to stay afloat. And so, we lose jobs. There's a lot of industries that have left this country simply because the overhead is just too high for them to compete on the global market.
We not longer make many clothes, no TV's or cell phones anymore. There's only 1 computer company still here in the USA. The list of industries that have left or outsourced a LOT of our jobs is (in the last decade or two) is a long one.
Reducing the amount of wages will bring a LOT of those jobs back. Those companies could afford to manufacture here again, and still compete globally.

Let's do some math, shall we?

1 company of 500 employee's. 40hr week. (Benefits not included)

American company at the national blue collar wage average.
$25.66 per hour X 40hrs = $1026.40 X 500 employees = Per week $513,200. X 50 weeks $25,660,000.

Mexican company with the same criteria: (A manufacturing employee in Mexico usually earns around 22,700 MXN per month (USD 1135.75).

$1135.75 per month X 500 employees = 567,875 X 12 months = 6,814,500

$25,660,000 - $6,814,500 is a savings of $18,845,500.

If the USD was equalized, and that same $1135 per month bought you the same as what $4,400 bought, then what difference would it make to anyone here in the USA? But it would make a huge difference in where American companies could manufacture. In fact, it would be cheaper to manufacture here in the USA, because they could save on shipping charges they paying to bring those products to the USA.

It's a win win for the USA, no matter how you slice this.

Yes, I do read your neo-Conservative posts.
Why don't you go to work for FoxConn for a year and tell us how wonderful the experience was.
Let us know when you decide to stop posting bullshit about how Mexicans get paid $10.,00/hour when they get paid $5.00/hour,

 

[Indeependent]

You sound like George W. Bush.

So do you...full of shit.

 

[conserveguy877]

Trump may have won the debate but he lost voters. His "bully" style turned voters off.
CNN called it a "shit show"
If Trump would have "acted" more presidential he could have won in 2020.

I'll take a Desantis/Haley ticket in 2020.

I mean the fake news CNN calling him that? The support isn't gone.

 

[Skylar]

No surprise here.

It's going to be the Democrats worst nightmare...Trump 2024.

Watch them squirm in this thread.

The Establishment Never Trumpers and the Democrats are united in opposing Donald Trump.

That tells you all you need to know...

Trump tops DeSantis in fresh 2024 GOP presidential primary poll, other potential candidates in single digits

Former President Donald Trump leads a field of actual and potential Republican presidential contenders in a new national poll looking at the growing but still hypothetical 2024 GOP race

www.foxnews.com

Trump is a dream candidate for Biden. A proven loser that Biden beat by landslide who oozes beta cuck energy, constantly whining about how he was cheated, robbed and how much of a victim he is.

Almost half of the electorate won't vote for Trump under any circumstance. And that was BEFORE J6 and Trump's call to terminate the constitution.

Nor can Trump change or adapt. He's got one trick that he's been doing since 2012, that worked once in 2016. And has been a disaster for the GOP in every other election.

 

[YoursTruly]

Trump may have won the debate but he lost voters. His "bully" style turned voters off.
CNN called it a "shit show"
If Trump would have "acted" more presidential he could have won in 2020.

I'll take a Desantis/Haley ticket in 2020.

Trumps about like his minions. All full of hate, bashing & attacks. Oh and lies.

 

[Redfish]

Equalizing our dollar with something like the Peso would actually save ours in the long run. The value of the USD is an arbitrary value anyways. It's not even close to be actual. And the inflation numbers they use are arbitrary as well.
And no one would be losing any value if the USD's value was reset.

Which would you rather have.
1. $100 that buys $10 worth of stuff
2. $10 that buys $10 worth of stuff

If you got paid 80% LESS per week and it paid for the same exact things that you pay for now, what would it matter?

Here's where it does matter. (2 examples)
ATM, Mexicans come to the USA and get paid something like $10 per HOUR. Where as in Mexico, they're making $20 per DAY. (minimum wage in MX is $7 per DAY (not hour)
If $20 per day was a decent wage here also, what would be the benefit of coming here? Free healthcare? They have that in Mexico.

Example #2. American companies outsource jobs because it's much MUCH cheaper to pay the above foreign wage, than what Americans have to have here, just to stay afloat. And so, we lose jobs. There's a lot of industries that have left this country simply because the overhead is just too high for them to compete on the global market.
We not longer make many clothes, no TV's or cell phones anymore. There's only 1 computer company still here in the USA. The list of industries that have left or outsourced a LOT of our jobs is (in the last decade or two) is a long one.
Reducing the amount of wages will bring a LOT of those jobs back. Those companies could afford to manufacture here again, and still compete globally.

Let's do some math, shall we?

1 company of 500 employee's. 40hr week. (Benefits not included)

American company at the national blue collar wage average.
$25.66 per hour X 40hrs = $1026.40 X 500 employees = Per week $513,200. X 50 weeks $25,660,000.

Mexican company with the same criteria: (A manufacturing employee in Mexico usually earns around 22,700 MXN per month (USD 1135.75).

$1135.75 per month X 500 employees = 567,875 X 12 months = 6,814,500

$25,660,000 - $6,814,500 is a savings of $18,845,500.

If the USD was equalized, and that same $1135 per month bought you the same as what $4,400 bought, then what difference would it make to anyone here in the USA? But it would make a huge difference in where American companies could manufacture. In fact, it would be cheaper to manufacture here in the USA, because they could save on shipping charges they paying to bring those products to the USA.

It's a win win for the USA, no matter how you slice this.

your math and logic are flawed, I am not going to waste time correcting you because you are never going to accept that you are wrong.

 

[Redfish]

Trumps about like his minions. All full of hate, bashing & attacks. Oh and lies.

and Biden is 100% truthful?????????????? hillary???????????????? Swalwell????????????? Schumer???????????? Kameltoe???????????? the DNC????????????????? the media????????????????

What you claim to be Trump lies are rhetoric and bluster, not lies. When he called Hillary, Crooked Hillary was he lying? No, she is crooked. When he called Schumer, cryin Chuck, was he lying, no.

 

[Dragonlady]

Uh huh.

You fool no one.

And the Republican primary voters see right through you.

Six years of nonstop destroy Trump, destroy Trump, destroy Trump.

You have failed.

Democrats didn't have to "Destroy Trump". Donald Trump did that all to himself with his lies, his incompetence, and his complete failure to do ANYTHING which helped the American solve the problems the nation is dealing with.

Trump's entire life is just as much a lie as that of George DeSantos. Trump isn't a billionaire, he's certainly not a "successful businessman", either. Trump is simply the Greatest Conman who ever lived. He conned his way into the White House, in spite of being in the middle of a fraud trial when he was elected.

The 2020 election isn't the 0NLY thing F0X News lied to you about. They lied to you about Trump's economic "success" too. FOX has lied to you about Covid, immigration, and the economy. Basically, FOX lied about everything that happened during the Trump Presidency.

Democrats didn't try to extort the Ukrainians to get dirt on the Bidens. Trump did that. The "whistleblowers" and the witnesses against Trump in that Impeachment, were all Republicans who worked for Donald Trump, in the White House. And FOX lied to you about that too.

 

[Dragonlady]

We need to invade oil and gold rich Mexico; they treat their people like crap anyway.

So rich nations should just invade their neighbours and take what they want????

How very Medieval of you. Why turn the clock back to the 14th century, why not go all the way back to Roman Times, and just take over the world, and install puppet governments loyal to the USA in all of them? Make them pay "Tribute" to the USA and then run your country on the taxes paid as Tribute by the rest of the world.

What's the point of having the biggest baddest military in the world if you're not going to use it.

 

[Dragonlady]

and Biden is 100% truthful?????????????? hillary???????????????? Swalwell????????????? Schumer???????????? Kameltoe???????????? the DNC????????????????? the media????????????????

What you claim to be Trump lies are rhetoric and bluster, not lies. When he called Hillary, Crooked Hillary was he lying? No, she is crooked. When he called Schumer, cryin Chuck, was he lying, no.

Yes, Trump was lying when he called Clinton "Crooked Hillary". The Clintons have been investigated more than 25 times, and every investigation has failed to find any any witnesses or any evidence of criminal behaviour by Hillary Clinton. In fact, many of the so-called "crimes" that Republicans have claimed, and which have been investigated endlessly, never happened.

Uranium 0ne was not a crime, and Hillary had nothing to do with its approval other than signing the waiver on behalf of State. Hillary's server was N0T illegal when she was Secretary of State, nor was it a secret that Republicans only learned about in 2016 during the election campaign.

Trey Gowdy was a Member of the House in 2013, AFTER Clinton had left the State Department, which passed a Bill making the use of a private private server for government business illegal, BECAUSE of Clinton's use of a private server. Yet 3 years later, Gowdy was shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that Hillary Clinton used a private server as Secretary of State. The FBI needs to investigate.

This is similar to the letter Mitch McConnell signed as Senate Majority Leader in 2016 asking the White House to send Joe Biden to the Ukraine to get the corrupt prosecutor fired before American aid went to the Ukraine. Yet Republicans now claim that Biden did this to help his son, and FOX News repeats that lie as well.

Report: Biden Got Prosecutor Investigating His Son's Firm Fired | Law & Crime

Former Vice President of the United States Joe Biden reportedly "bragged" about his role in the firing of a prosecutor who was, at the time, investigating his son's company.

lawandcrime.com

 

[Indeependent]

So rich nations should just invade their neighbours and take what they want????

How very Medieval of you. Why turn the clock back to the 14th century, why not go all the way back to Roman Times, and just take over the world, and install puppet governments loyal to the USA in all of them? Make them pay "Tribute" to the USA and then run your country on the taxes paid as Tribute by the rest of the world.

What's the point of having the biggest baddest military in the world if you're not going to use it.

Yet it doesn’t bother you that the Mexican dictators treat their citizens like shit.

 

[YoursTruly]

and Biden is 100% truthful?????????????? hillary???????????????? Swalwell????????????? Schumer???????????? Kameltoe???????????? the DNC????????????????? the media????????????????

What you claim to be Trump lies are rhetoric and bluster, not lies. When he called Hillary, Crooked Hillary was he lying? No, she is crooked. When he called Schumer, cryin Chuck, was he lying, no.

They all lie. Including and especially Trump.

 

[YoursTruly]

your math and logic are flawed, I am not going to waste time correcting you because you are never going to accept that you are wrong.

When I was shown this, I accepted it. Because it made sense. So give me your take on it, and I'll read it with an open mind.
But don't just crawfish your way of it because you can't refute what I said.


I've known Mexicans my entire life. I've worked with them, been close friends with them. And was even engaged to two of them. Some were legal, some were illegal.
Every last one of them said they came here because they can make so much more money here than in Mexico. Not one of them were on, or even mentioned welfare or these supposed US benefits.
It was simply work and making money.

 

[Indeependent]

They all lie. Including and especially Trump.

Thank you Jeb Bush; we appreciate your bullshit.