Trump is the ultimate fail for pandemic responses, while China did a great job.

[EdwardBaiamonte]

They are the best candidates for natural selection because their priorities are all about worrying about communism.

Maybe because communism just killed 150 million and Sanders Warren Biden AOC are Green New Deal/Medicare for all/open borders communists?

 

[Markle]

We closed our border January 30, 2020 while thousands are flying back and forth total of 430,000. Worthless. While the east coast still open like NY. Look at where we are. Did the border closing works? Answer is NO.

IF what you posted were true, would we NOT have five to ten times as many fatalities per million population? Of course, we would you just can't help lying!

 

[Flopper]

"China did a great job."

"In late February as coronavirus infections mounted in Wuhan, China, authorities went door-to-door for health checks – forcibly isolating every resident in makeshift hospitals and temporary quarantine shelters, even separating parents from young children who displayed symptoms of COVID-19, no matter how seemingly mild."

This is what China did to beat coronavirus. Experts say America couldn't handle it

And it worked

And taking everyone's vehicles away from them would put an end to deaths caused by vehicle accidents.

I have no idea why they took vehicles away but it's clear that their draconian methods of containing the virus worked. The South Korean method of stopping the virus which was based on a rapid massive response, testing and tracking both direct contacts and casual contacts also worked. Unlike China, it was done without the strong arm tactics of the Chinese.

The US lack of any real response during the first few critical months was a disaster. The lesson to be learned is success in dealing with a pandemic depends on preparedness; that is having a plan and the resources needed to move rapidly once the first case is reported. This was the time for action not forming a committee to determine how to respond and starting a national debate on the seriousness of Covid 19.

I'm not denying what China did to squelch the outbreak has worked (as far as we know) but would you be willing to give up constitutional rights to do it ? I sure the fuck wouldn't !

The US lack of a strong response early on, is simply poor planning on the part of lawmakers past and present. The guidelines have been written for years, but no one stockpiled what we needed if a huge outbreak occurred.

For instance, take New York City.
They of course blame Trump for the outbreak getting out of control in their city.
Consider this however. As we know now, one of the key reasons New York City was hit so hard, is due to the fact that New Yorkers typically all live in very close proximity of each other. Their mobility is limited to mostly crowded mass transit, or crowded sidewalks.

So if you're a New Yorker, you know all of this. The local and state leaders know all of this. Why the fuck hasn't New York City LONG AGO prepared for a pandemic that they and us all knew sooner or later would occur ?
Why didn't they take special measures knowing they would have more problems than most other places ? Why didn't their leaders make sure LONG AGO they had a huge supply of ventilators, N95 masks, ICU hospital beds, etc ?

Instead, they blame one man for all of their problems.

I don't agree. Although the states certainly have a role in preparing for a pandemic and yes they should have adequate supplies to deal with local emergencies and local epidemics of common disease but certainly not something on the scale of Covid 19. Experts in emergency preparedness and response have expressed dismay at the claim that the states and hospitals should have been prepared to supply all their needs for fighting an epidemic such as Covid 19, saying the federal government must take the lead in ensuring medical supplies are available and distributed where they are needed most.

It is simple impractical to have all 50 states stockpiling for a pandemic caused by a new virus. The duplication of effort between states would be staggering. States do not have the purchasing power of the federal government. They do not have the ability to run a deficit like the federal government. They do not have the logistical power of the federal government. Therefore money would end up coming from the federal goverment and the cost of purchasing and maintaining stockpiles for each state would be far higher than a federal stockpile.

In regard to a pandemic, the federal goverment is in a unique position to prevent and respond to a pandemic. There has never been a pandemic that started in the US. They have all come from Africa and Asia. The CDC monitoring and tracking of foreign epidemics, which Trump pulled out the budget in 2019 and congress restored needs to be increased by at least 5 fold. South Korean tracing and monitoring of Covid 19 in Wuhan gave them several weeks head start modifying and ordering test test kits as well assembling testing teams and ordering supplies. The US should be tracking every epidemic and doing a threat assessment. If we had been doing this, we could have been ordering test kits and PPE in the middle of January instead of Middle March, when every country in world was doing so. Incident response teams would have been tracking cases, testing, and quarantining in January and February. In short, the virus would most probably be under control today, and 16 million workers in the US would not be unemployed.

Is this Trump's fault, yes and no. He is certainly responsible for de-emphasizing pandemic planing and response and downplaying the seriousness of the virus. Inadequate stock piling of supplies and equipment is both his and previous president's fault.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

He is certainly responsible for de-emphasizing pandemic planing and response and downplaying the seriousness of the virus.

Not really. States do health care for the most part. We have 50 governors and 4500 epidemiologists all of whom downplayed virus. When Trump banned travel libs jumped on him for racism xenophobia. Afraid we have to write this off as human nature.

 

[charwin95]

The Trump enabled virus will continue to spread in the US. Trump is a failure.

You see this quoted opinion, this is a communist Chinese tool, just as the entire democratic party happens to be, the latter most likely enthusiastically supportive of China's war against the United States. Regardless, the above tool, and all like-minded tools of the communist regime, are weapons of China's war against the US!

I have been asking a question for over two months now, finally last night FNC's Tucker Carlson asked it to, specifically the question is as follows, knowing as we now know that the virus isn't 2-3 times more contagious than flu, but rather 6-7 times more so, just how is it that the CCP manages to keep its vast, massively over-populated urban centers coronavirus free?

As Carlson noted, the Wuhan lockdown still allowed about 5-million people in and out of Wuhan both before, and after the lockdown, most went elsewhere in China, but many went global as we say. Looking to New York City as our benchmark, and then outward from there, we see the unstoppable, impossibly rapid spread of the virus outward into the entire United States, and folks such was just in four weeks time with most travel to China being barred!

How is this possible, how is it that a nation of 1.6 billion tightly packed into sardine like urban centers is virtually free of the virus, whilst all other continents are being overrun? Keep in mind that the WHO is now known to have deliberately mislead CDC/NIH as to the nature of the virus, and that its director, Tedros what fuck his name, is revealed as an obvious pawn of the CCP. Why any man or women with a three digit IQ can easily ascertain the obvious from this, with the obvious being intentions, and in this case all evidence screams "intentional attack, intentional attack!"

Folks, China is not a sophisticated nation, most of them live quite primitively, sure certain city centers project sophistication, but that is all for show & tell as we say, most of China, particularly its medical capabilities, still revolve around witch doctors and folk medicine. Yet they have seemingly stopped this virus dead in its tracks, all while actively deceiving the rest of the world, most especially the USA, as to the true nature of what it was that was loosed upon them, this deception included the absolute total and enthusiastic support of the WHO and its director!

Folks I have told many that they are simply not being cynical enough about the CCP, the CCP are utterly alien to the western mentality, they are the most murderous, psychopathic creatures ever spawned upon the earth, and they are exactly the type of people willing and able to launch a weapon of mass destruction in this very fashion. Back to that question of Carlson's, which I have been asking about for over two months now, how is it they managed to prevent the rest of their massively over-populated nation from descending into a coronavirus cauldron? Great mitigation technique? Not a fucking chance, vaccination for most of their population with the intentional withholding of same from the population of Wuhan, so best to craft a narrative of plausible deniability?

Checkmate......

Trump is a total failure. Period. Look at the results of what he did anddidn’t do.

1. Prove to us that democrats are supportive of war against United States. Prove it.

2. Prove that the democrats are communist against US. Prove it.

3. Prove where the 5 millions going in and out of Wuhan. Prove it.

4. As far as China‘a primitiveness even high school students will tell you that.

5. China’s medicine part of what you said is true but most are totally wrong. In 2017 - 2018 363,341 and 2028-19 369,548 Chinese students are enrolled here in US. Most of their high educated citizens are educated here in US. We make $billions from these people.

6. We know for decades that China is very secretive and cannot be trusted. So WHY are we acting surprised and so stupid? So the Chinese lied is that mean there’s no CV in China? So we just sit back and point to China?

Number of Chinese students in the U.S. 2023 | Statista

The Number of Chinese students in the U.S. has declined considerably since 2020, falling below 300,000 in 2022.

www.statista.com

2018/19	369,548
2017/18	363,341

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

1. Prove to us that democrats are supportive of war against United States. Prove it.

Democrats have long been opposed to the basic principle of the United States ie freedom from big liberal govt. This is why they supported Stalin and spied for him and gave him the bomb. Do you understand?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

2. Prove that the democrats are communist against US. Prove it.

Most of them support Sanders Warren AOC Biden. What more proof do you want?

 

[charwin95]

Peter Navarro is a senior trump economic adviser wrote a warning letter about Pandemic January 29, 2020) coming to US. He was ignored.

Obviously whole world ignored it too long or it would not have spread and spread. It is human nature I'm afraid. Only dead bodies in sufficient numbers get our attention. When Trump banned travel from China liberals said he was over reacting out of racism etc etc. Only dead bodies changed their minds and got them over their bigotry toward Trump.

So the liberals said that. Is that why Trump sat and didn’t do anything for 2 months. while he downplayed the crisis supported by his goons at Fox News. Till the body counts. In his rally February 20, 2020 he called it new democrat hoax. Keep trying.
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[charwin95]

1. Prove to us that democrats are supportive of war against United States. Prove it.

Democrats have long been opposed to the basic principle of the United States ie freedom from big liberal govt. This is why they supported Stalin and spied for him and gave him the bomb. Do you understand?

That is totally hogwash. That is not a proof. You are just a Trump supporter. Try again.

 

[charwin95]

2. Prove that the democrats are communist against US. Prove it.

Most of them support Sanders Warren AOC Biden. What more proof do you want?

That is totally BULLCRAP try again.
.

 

[charwin95]

1. Prove to us that democrats are supportive of war against United States. Prove it.

Democrats have long been opposed to the basic principle of the United States ie freedom from big liberal govt. This is why they supported Stalin and spied for him and gave him the bomb. Do you understand?

And you have Trump so in love with Putin. Keep trying. And I’ll give you more.
.

 

[charwin95]

What a sick, selfish. monster he is.

Can you present your best reason to think that or just made up lie??

Trump is the most inept, amateur, dishonest disgusting, hypocrite, pathological liar corrupt US president ever. Period. The whole world knows that.

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[charwin95]

You are weak, ignorant, unprepared, and a coward. The memes you post have always been your Waterloo.

I would love to. Problem is, you are weak, ignorant, unprepared, and a coward. Which means, you never debate anything of substance. And that's what you leave us to work with. Nothing!

The best thing to deal with Markle is just pass his post. Just ignore it to save time. He is a liar,worthless, weak, ignorant to deal with. I don’t think I want to waste time with that guy.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Trump sat and didn’t do anything for 2 months.

2 months?? he banned travel 10 days after first case and knee-jerk libs jumped all over him for racism and xenophobia. Do you understand now?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

In his rally February 20, 2020 he called it new democrat hoax. Keep trying.

if Trump said the virus was a hoax I'll pay you $10,000. Bet or run away with your liberal tail between your legs.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Trump is the most inept, amateur, dishonest disgusting, hypocrite, pathological liar corrupt US president ever. Period. The whole world knows that.

Trump is the second coming and a real American compared to those who support the Green New Deal Second Great Depression and Communist Revolution.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

And you have Trump so in love with Putin. Keep trying. And I’ll give you more.

is he spying for him and giving him our military secrets or giving Ukraine Javilin missiles while Obama refused so as not to offend Putin or interfere with his aggression in Ukraine. See why they say liberalism is based in pure ignorance?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That is totally BULLCRAP try again.

So you are saying the Democrats don't support libcommie Sanders AOC Warren Biden?????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

That is totally hogwash.

do you have the IQ to say why it is hogwash??????

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

China did a great job

you mean infecting the entire planet is a great job?? See why we say that liberalism is based in pure ignorance???