Trump is not happy with Ukraine's success against Russian millitary.

[mudwhistle]

Trump keeps mentioning the $85 billion figure. He has the receipts.
So this is another example of the media circling the wagons around Joe Biden.
Another example of Bidens ineptitude at the helm.

They did the same thing in Iraq....when they turned over weapons to the Republican Guard that then became ISIS.

It worked perfectly......so they did it again in Afghanistan.

 

[krichton]

Wrong.

The original price tag was estimated at over $80 billion.

I don't give a damned what you claim they said in front of congress later. The original reports stated otherwise.

Snopes tried to put a good spin on the totals.....but even they cannot say how much money the equipment and weapons that Biden left behind cost.

Facts are facts, it doesn't matter if you disagree or don't like them.

Taliban holding on to $7 billion of U.S. military equipment left behind after withdrawal

President Trump has demanded the hardware be returned, but the Taliban has refused to give it up.

www.cbsnews.com

Biden admin left $7 billion in military equipment in Afghanistan: Report

President Joe Biden’s administration left roughly $7 billion in military equipment behind in Afghanistan after the deadly withdrawal in August that left

americanmilitarynews.com

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[krichton]

Strong right wing administration didn't make this mess.

Quick question, is Putin afraid of Trump, yes or no?

 

[mudwhistle]

Facts are facts, it doesn't matter if you disagree or don't like them.

Taliban holding on to $7 billion of U.S. military equipment left behind after withdrawal

President Trump has demanded the hardware be returned, but the Taliban has refused to give it up.

www.cbsnews.com

Biden admin left $7 billion in military equipment in Afghanistan: Report

President Joe Biden’s administration left roughly $7 billion in military equipment behind in Afghanistan after the deadly withdrawal in August that left

americanmilitarynews.com

MSN

www.msn.com

And these same sources told us for the last few years that Biden wasn't suffering from Dementia.....

Having been overseas on deployment, I find it difficult to believe the $7 billion price tag.

Biden has given Iran much more than that.

 

[krichton]

And these same sources told us for the last few years that Biden wasn't suffering from Dementia.....

Having been overseas on deployment, I find it difficult to believe the $7 billion price tag.

Biden has given Iran much more than that.

Facts are facts, it doesn't matter if you disagree or don't like them.

 

[martybegan]

Facts are facts, it doesn't matter if you disagree or don't like them.

Most progressive "facts" are nothing more than idiotic opinions parading around as facts.

 

[BothWings]

But your first claim was the US was planting weapons in Ukraine to push Russia off the world stage. That kind of massive military buildup cannot be done covertly. We have seen Russia's mechanized army. The vastness of it is beyond imagination even if it is old, outdated or sometimes in shambles. Just their tanks alone amounts to maybe 10,000. How would covertly selling Ukraine a few weapons systems have pushed Russia off some world stage? Even once the war started US companies couldn't even keep up the production of shells and missiles to send to Ukraine when everything was out in the open. These are the kinds of tales best left in your head, because in there, there's no one to challenge your beliefs or logic, or conspiracy theories.

Overt arming and fighting is what is happening NOW. What happened THEN was to set the stage for what is happening now and get our puppet Zelenski in there. If you think Russia didn't figure out right away WHY we were messing with Ukraine's government back then, you're an imbecile. Kiev would have been crawling with intelligence agents from both sides trying to ferret each other out. Back when it was still under the table, the Obama administration authorized private contractors to sell Ukraine weapons so the government could keep its nose clean. No weapons were overtly and directly sold by our government until later. Now that Russia has invaded to prevent it, NOW the U.S. has it's "reason" to sell Ukraine arms directly. This is basic espionage theory as it has been executed for decades. It's all about provoking the other country to make the first move. Stalin did the same thing to Hitler over Poland in 1939.

 

[krichton]

Overt arming and fighting is what is happening NOW. What happened THEN was to set the stage for what is happening now and get our puppet Zelenski in there. If you think Russia didn't figure out right away WHY we were messing with Ukraine's government back then, you're an imbecile. Kiev would have been crawling with intelligence agents from both sides trying to ferret each other out. Back when it was still under the table, the Obama administration authorized private contractors to sell Ukraine weapons so the government could keep its nose clean. No weapons were overtly and directly sold by our government until later. Now that Russia has invaded to prevent it, NOW the U.S. has it's "reason" to sell Ukraine arms directly. This is basic espionage theory as it has been executed for decades. It's all about provoking the other country to make the first move. Stalin did the same thing to Hitler over Poland in 1939.

So the United States set up the stage for Russia to attack, so they can offer to whisk Zelenski off to the US and let Russia have Kiev and all their secret stowed away weapons that they've been selling to Ukraine covertly? That's some stage. It almost sounds completely made up because of how nonsensical it sounds. This is why conspiracy theories never make a lick of sense to those who don't have a mental illness. We require proof and common sense, all you ppl need is a wild imagination.

 

[Delldude]

So the United States set up the stage for Russia to attack, so they can offer to whisk Zelenski off to the US and let Russia have Kiev and all their secret stowed away weapons that they've been selling to Ukraine covertly? That's some stage. It almost sounds completely made up because of how nonsensical it sounds. This is why conspiracy theories never make a lick of sense to those who don't have a mental illness. We require proof and common sense, all you ppl need is a wild imagination.

The Clinton-era blunder that set the stage for today's Ukrainian crisis

Instead of working toward a new, inclusive European security order, Clinton expanded NATO over the objections of a prostrate Russia.

responsiblestatecraft.org

 

[BothWings]

So the United States set up the stage for Russia to attack, so they can offer to whisk Zelenski off to the US and let Russia have Kiev and all their secret stowed away weapons that they've been selling to Ukraine covertly? That's some stage. It almost sounds completely made up because of how nonsensical it sounds. This is why conspiracy theories never make a lick of sense to those who don't have a mental illness. We require proof and common sense, all you ppl need is a wild imagination.

NO, ignoramus.

Tbe bumbling Obiden Administration actually thought they could gradually set up camp in Ukraine, build it up, and USE it to push Russia into the background while using Ukraine for their own business. That's what the New World Order has done globally ever since Bush the first introduced us to the New World Order back in 1990. "Weapons of Mass Destruction", TOTAL bullshit. Remember that?? We could take on little Iraq with no real problem. We could annihilated them faster than we did but the NWO wanted to secure the oil first.

EVERY administration since Bush the first was a direct extension of the New World Order, except for Trump who started calling them out and upstaging them. And with each passing year the New World orders global antics have become more and more brash and bold culminating in the bullshit that you're seeing today in Ukraine. They were not counting on a full scale invasion. They really thought that they could get the upper hand and eventually have Russia back down. But Russia knew hat it had to nip it all in the bud before Ukraine fell under the complete control of the West. It was either let it happen or do what was necessary to stop it from happening immediately. If Russia hadn't done what they did, Ukraine would be another corporate playground at this point for the West.

Soooo, you can continue with your ignorant gaslighting and ignore the obvious intent of our government over the past 35 years....or not. I'm not going to respond to it anymore.

 

[AntonToo]

Trump keeps mentioning the $85 billion figure. He has the receipts.

He also lies in every other sentence, his word is worthless.

By all testimony to Congress from DoD it's 7 billion.

 

[AntonToo]

NO, ignoramus.

Tbe bumbling Obiden Administration actually thought they could gradually set up camp in Ukraine, build it up, and USE it to push Russia into the background while using Ukraine for their own business.

Does anyone actually take this crazy fool's posts seriously?

 

[AntonToo]

But your first claim was the US was planting weapons in Ukraine to push Russia off the world stage. That kind of massive military buildup cannot be done covertly. We have seen Russia's mechanized army. The vastness of it is beyond imagination even if it is old, outdated or sometimes in shambles. Just their tanks alone amounts to maybe 10,000. How would covertly selling Ukraine a few weapons systems have pushed Russia off some world stage? Even once the war started US companies couldn't even keep up the production of shells and missiles to send to Ukraine when everything was out in the open. These are the kinds of tales best left in your head, because in there, there's no one to challenge your beliefs or logic, or conspiracy theories.

You are trying to use reason with a crazy person. Won't work, this nutbag is far gone.

 

[Delldude]

He also lies in every other sentence, his word is worthless.

By all testimony to Congress from DoD it's 7 billion.

That's been disproven in this thread already.

 

[AntonToo]

That's been disproven in this thread already.

If it was disproven then you wouldn't need to use lying-Trump's word for it.

 

[Delldude]

If it was disproven then you wouldn't need to use lying-Trump's word for it.

It was disproven, not the way you want.

 

[krichton]

NO, ignoramus.

Tbe bumbling Obiden Administration actually thought they could gradually set up camp in Ukraine, build it up, and USE it to push Russia into the background while using Ukraine for their own business. That's what the New World Order has done globally ever since Bush the first introduced us to the New World Order back in 1990. "Weapons of Mass Destruction", TOTAL bullshit. Remember that?? We could take on little Iraq with no real problem. We could annihilated them faster than we did but the NWO wanted to secure the oil first.

EVERY administration since Bush the first was a direct extension of the New World Order, except for Trump who started calling them out and upstaging them. And with each passing year the New World orders global antics have become more and more brash and bold culminating in the bullshit that you're seeing today in Ukraine. They were not counting on a full scale invasion. They really thought that they could get the upper hand and eventually have Russia back down. But Russia knew hat it had to nip it all in the bud before Ukraine fell under the complete control of the West. It was either let it happen or do what was necessary to stop it from happening immediately. If Russia hadn't done what they did, Ukraine would be another corporate playground at this point for the West.

Soooo, you can continue with your ignorant gaslighting and ignore the obvious intent of our government over the past 35 years....or not. I'm not going to respond to it anymore.

Ah, New World Order, the battle cry of every unhinged conspiracy theorist, lol. I love how all you people spout stuff off as fact, without ever producing a shred of proof.

 

[Delldude]

Ah, New World Order, the battle cry of every unhinged conspiracy theorist, lol. I love how all you people spout stuff off as fact, without ever producing a shred of proof.

You aren't entitled to your own facts.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Civilians on both sides dude. Notice I used civilians in the plural.

Look at my past posts where I said I was tired of widows and children losing their loved ones on both sides......

You are a little man.

Die Russian pigs.

 

[krichton]

You are trying to use reason with a crazy person. Won't work, this nutbag is far gone.

I don't know why this board has attracted so many unhinged nutters. There isn't a single normal republican here.