Trump is acting insane on Greenland

[RedrickTheCoat]

You don't understand how valuable Greenland truly is to the United States. Greenland is rapidly becoming the most geostrategically important landmass on the planet due to the fading of Arctic Ice and opening up new pathways for international trade and military. My point is at the current pace, the U.S. is in a better position to defend Greenland than any of the countries currently involved, they are moving too slowly. If by June, there are still only a miniscule amount of NATO military presence in Greenland, then we need to move in. We're running out of time.

Europe has only sent the people it sent recently as an indication to the US that they should not proceed with trying to forcibly annex Greenland. If Trump continues in his manner, it's possible that Europe sends a lot more troops to Greenland as a deterrant to any potential action by Trump.

Europe as a whole, can easily supply enough forces to defend it in conjunction with the US. If the US said, they either want it or they won't help defend it, then that wouldn't make sense for the US, but Europe would ultimately be able to put enough forces on it. Like I said, Europe is a nuclear power, any attack on Greenland could result in a nuclear response from Europe. It's the nuclear deterrant. Europe can also scale up their militaries reasonably quickly (over the next 5-10 years). And I imagine they will, as the US has now shown to be an unreliable ally. In our recent history, they have been fine letting US take the lead as a superpower, and supporting that superpower status because the US has been a reliable and trusted ally. Trump seems to think this is some negative, but I don't think it is.

I understand that it is valuable. But it isn't so valuable that the US should forcibly take it. And they don't need to own it to be able to benefit from the shipping routes etc.

We're running out of time.

We are not running out of time because of the nuclear deterrant and the fact that any attack on Greenland would be a declaration of war against all of Europe and the US LOL. There is no indiction that Russia or China is looking to invade Greenland.

If Trump were take it for strategic reasons, what precedent does that set for other countries doing the same thing elsewhere?

It would be so terrible for the entire world if the US were to take Greenland by force.

If by June, there are still only a miniscule amount of NATO military presence in Greenland, then we need to move in.

Nothing is stopping from the US putting more military bases on Greenland...

I also find it funny that Republicans are so anti the fact of anthropogenic climate change, but melting ice is opening up trade routes. Do you know how long that usually takes for an area of ice like this to melt, unless there is some cause for it? Most of the natural changes occur over very long timescale. And if there were to happen over shorter timescales, there is usually some observable reason for it.

 

[luiza]

Somebody needs to tell him he is 100 percent wrong to threaten nato allies over this ?? wtf

He has a complete Gullible like you fooled .

Art of War --- Grasshopper .
Always ask much , much more than you are prepared to finally accept .

It makes your opponent stressed and hysterical .

Like You .

 

[JGalt]

Trump slaps increased tariffs on Denmark, European nations as he steps up bid to acquire Greenland

President Trump ratcheted up pressure in his bid to acquire Greenland using US trade might – threatening to slap a new 10% tariff on key allies until a deal to takeover the territory is reached.

nypost.com

Somebody needs to tell him he is 100 percent wrong to threaten nato allies over this ?? wtf

He is also becoming the president of the military industrial complex!!!!

He wants to increase military to 1.5 T

Utterly insane !!

We need Vance or Rubio to take over

Let me present two disastrous scenarios that could occur, should we take Greenland:

1. Greenland is too ******* cold. It's yearly average temperature is between -1.6F to -2F. Meanwhile, the yearly average temperature of the US is 55.5 degrees Fahrenheit. Adding such a large, cold land mass to the US could possibly plunge the entire US into an average temperature of 26.7 degrees Fahrenheit. That would be disastrous to our farmers.

2. And of course, there's another horrible scenario: What's going to happen when we start populating Greenland? Can it really withstand the weight of all those additional people?

 

[toobfreak]

What's going to happen when we start populating Greenland?

Here's a thought: wouldn't Greenland make a fabulous place to build a federal penitentiary? A place to send the refuse of life? How about this for the next ICE-Karen who tries to run a federal officer over: 'You are hereby sentenced to serve 25 years hard labor skinning whale blubber off dead sea life, with no possibility of parole.'

 

[toobfreak]

Somebody needs to tell him he is 100 percent wrong to threaten nato allies over this ?? wtf
Utterly insane !!

Hey Q, get a grip of yourself (no not there):

Everything brilliant is always taken by the proletariat first as either insane or impossible---

--- until it actually works.


Trump has a remarkably high success rate of goals set out for or promised then achieved over most any other president of the modern era, especially democrat ones.

 

[JGalt]

Here's a thought: wouldn't Greenland make a fabulous place to build a federal penitentiary? A place to send the refuse of life? How about this for the next ICE-Karen who tries to run a federal officer over: 'You are hereby sentenced to serve 25 years hard labor skinning whale blubber off dead sea life, with no possibility of parole.'

Great idea! That's how Australia got its start, and look how it turned out.

In a couple hundred years, Greenland will be a lush tropical paradise with crocodiles, sharks, and kangaroos too.

If it doesn't capsize and tip over first.

 

[toobfreak]

Great idea! That's how Australia got its start, and look how it turned out.

Only one problem, JG---

Those thieves and murderers originally sent there were neither stupid nor useless. These anti-ICE dykes of Minneapolis don't even have stupid and useless going for them.

I mean, even a badger has sense enough to get the hell out of the way of speeding cars rather than stand there daring traffic to run it over.

 

[JGalt]

Only one problem, JG---

Those thieves and murderers originally sent there were neither stupid nor useless. These anti-ICE dykes of Minneapolis don't even have stupid and useless going for them.

I mean, even a badger has sense enough to get the hell out of the way of speeding cars rather than stand there daring traffic to run it over.

But if they're anti-ICE, wouldn't sending them to Greenland make it warmer?

 

[toobfreak]

But if they're anti-ICE, wouldn't sending them to Greenland make it warmer?

 

[fncceo]

• Theodore Roosevelt: What do I want? I want respect! Respect for human life and respect for American property! And I'm going to send the Atlantic Squadron to Morocco to get that respect.
• John Hay: That's illegal.
• Theodore Roosevelt: Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?

 

[Flopper]

Yet nobody is talking about the threat to US national security these arctic exercises pose. Literally if Russia overruns the Europeans tomorrow and takes over Greenland that is a direct threat to the American homeland.

There are so many things wrong with your post it's hard to no where to start.
First of all, the threat that Russia could overturn Europe tomorrow is absurd. Russia has been fighting Ukraine for 11 years and still have not won. NATO is a far greater power that Ukraine.

Secondly, the US would not allow Russia to overtake Greenland. Our military base on the north coast of Greenland is a critical part of the US early warning system. The fall of that base would trigger a nuclear attack from our ground and submarine launch sites.

End of war and most everything else.

 

[Flopper]

Not for me.

I also dispute the OP.

While some of President Trump’s comments do strike me as off-putting, he remains largely correct about our need for Greenland.

I’d say we don’t need to take it over. And I don’t believe for a second that we’d ever simply “march in”’ to seize that land.

But it is very foresightful of President Trump to make the moves, now, to seize the initiative. In terms of geopolitics and military security for the free world, we clearly need to secure Greenland from the grasp of any other nations (like red China or Russia).

How does the 1951 Greenland Defense Treaty fail to give him what he needs for defense. The treaty gives the US the right to build and enhance military bases without any limits and promises the cooperation of both Greenland and Denmark.

If the treaty does not give him what he wants why isn't he negotiating a change to the treaty rather taking the country over. Greenland/Demark has been very cooperative in making changes to the treaty in the past.

I suspect what Trump wants has nothing to do with defense. Like Venezuela, it's all about getting the oil and minerals.

 

[Anarchy666]

There are so many things wrong with your post it's hard to no where to start.
First of all, the threat that Russia could overturn Europe tomorrow is absurd.

I wasn't talking about all of Europe, dumbass, I was talking about the 35 Europeans (probably less now) sabre-rattling with the US. They would get crushed by the Russians.

But I think you knew that, and you're just being a dishonest liberal hack twisting my words like you all do.

 

[schmidlap]

I support Trump 100%.

Unfortunately, you are not the only worshiper in the cult who is permanently bent over for him.

Demanding a peace prize while threatening to invade nations that have resources he wants, and threatening democracies with tariffs if they don't submit to him as well is deranged.

 

[TNHarley]

I support Trump 100%.

LOL no one, and i mean NO ONE thought any different.

 

[Zincwarrior]

EU needs to directly threaten seizure of TrumpCo European assets.

 

[Hafar1014]

Trumps approach on Greenland is wrong and its not working.

 

[Mr Natural]

The man’s a comedian! Don’t you know when He’s ******* with you?

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Im looking forward to the presidential shenanigans that gonna come out at gay devil worshiping davos

The russians are going to overrun paris

Greenland's all about missile defense and natural resources

Carve out the southeast corner, they could make it an indian nation.
We'd get the rest as tribute and payback

 

[postman]

I support Trump 100%.

Trump wants to buy Greenland, and have Venezuela pay for it.