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Actually, no. Any executive order would be invalid and any veto he issued would be canceled, but any bill passed by Congress would stand. The Constitution does not require the signature of the President. From Artcle 1, Section 7 US Constitution:Now, that's a good question.
I'm not sure it makes a difference to his citizenship, since wherever he was born, his mother was still a US citizen at the time. I think it might spark some changes in how states go about letting someone put their name on the ballot. At the moment, my understanding is that they simply take the person's word for it that they're eligible, unless and until someone with standing challenges it.
I'm not entirely sure why members of the voting population themselves aren't seen as having standing. If anyone has a right to protest a legally-unqualified candidate, wouldn't you think it would be the voters?
His citizenship is not the issue. The issue would be that his presidency would then be illegal. Therefore, every law, every order, every piece of paper signed by Obama would be invalid. If he obtained the office dishonestly, he would not only have to leave office, but everything he's done over the past two years would have to be scrapped. You do see that, right?
What the voters think is immaterial. If he was ineligible to run, then everything he's done is also.
If any Bill shall not be returned by the President within ten Days (Sundays excepted) after it shall have been presented to him, the Same shall be a Law, in like Manner as if he had signed it, unless the Congress by their Adjournment prevent its Return, in which Case it shall not be a Law.
Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
Check the thread kiddo.
And the right wing gave up any sort of "credence" in terms of mocking military service on multiple occassions..Kerry being the most disgusting case in point.
Even Bob Dole..who I had a great deal of respect for..said something like "There are questions" when asked about it.
These lies get spewed over and over again. And it takes a great deal of time and resources to defend against them. While I don't think "the answer" is responding in kind, it seems that NOTHING ELSE seems to work.
you're working OT on this crap sallow, let it go.
Fuck that.
Here's another thread..yet again..about a non-issue about something which is terribly insulting.
Obama's a non-american? That's the same shit that was spewed about every Liberal candidate since Kennedy.
I'm tired of it.
Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
How much you want to bet that Trump does not have shit in terms of travel records?
Dump Truck has already been caught lying and yet you still believe him.Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
Remember, he claimed it only took him an hour to get his birth certificate from the city of New York, and it wasn't a New York City birth certificate!!!!
Dump Truck has already been caught lying and yet you still believe him.Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
It took me one hour to get my birth certificate. Its inconceivable that, after four years of questioning, the president still hasnt produced his birth certificate. Im just asking President Obama to show the public his birth certificate. Whys he making an issue out of this?"
-Dump Truck
Indonesia didn't have dual citizenship laws until 2006:His mother is from Kansas. The thing is, relatives say he was born in Kenya. Plus when his mother married the Indonesian guy (Soetoro), there's a possibility that Barack travelled to America on an Indonesian passport at age 19 proving that he's not a citizen.
But I agree with all the Libs here, no one should investigate any of this.
There has been no confirmation that Obama traveled under an Indonesian passport. And even if he had in that time frame it would not have required him to relinquish his US citizenship. The Immigration and Nationalization Act of 1952 (Section 349, IIRC) specifically noted that no actions of a parent could cause a minor child (under 18 at the time) to loose their citizenship.
So if Soreto (sp?) had adopted Obama (and there is no legal evidence of that) and Obama because an Indonesian citizen, he would not have lost his US citizenship. He would have simply acquired dual citizenship. Now IF he were adopted, and IF he acquired dual citizenship, and IF he were issued an Indonesian passport as a minor (say just before turning 18) - then that passport would not have expired in the time frame you mention, he would have dual citizenship, and have legally been in possession of two legal passports.>>>>>
http://www.indonesiamatters.com/830/dual-nationality/
The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree . . . and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
--Jay Leno
America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's' new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien
Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno
Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers, and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
--David Letterman
Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon
Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel
Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
--David Letterman
I'd rep you, but I have to spread it around.
The law is NOT clear. The Constitution requires the President be a NATURAL Born citizen. That requires Congress to define. My personal opinion is that ANYONE born ANYWHERE of an American is a NATURAL Born citizen.
McCain was not born anywhere in the US. And he was responsible for the worst naval accident in history..as well as losing several planes that were never shot at.
Dude you just made yourself look 10x as bad as the birthers. Why 10x, because at least we dont have evidence on Obama one way or the other but we do have evidence on your comments about McCain.
Do some research about being born on military bases overseas and on the fact that said bases are considered U.S. territory.
Also do some research on the actual incident on the carrier, You will see McCain wasn't responsible.
McCain was not born anywhere in the US. And he was responsible for the worst naval accident in history..as well as losing several planes that were never shot at.
Dude you just made yourself look 10x as bad as the birthers. Why 10x, because at least we dont have evidence on Obama one way or the other but we do have evidence on your comments about McCain.
Do some research about being born on military bases overseas and on the fact that said bases are considered U.S. territory.
Also do some research on the actual incident on the carrier, You will see McCain wasn't responsible.
1. Birth Documents presented during the court case of Hollister v. McCain show that he was born in Colon, Panama. Colon was never part of the US Zone nor was it part of the sub-base. (See image below.)
2. Regarding military bases being considered U.S. Territory, that is incorrect. Dependents of military members born overseas receive citizenship based on Jus sanguinis (bloodline) not Jus soli (birth on soil).
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual
7 FAM 1113 NOT INCLUDED IN THE
MEANING OF "IN THE UNITED STATES"
c. Birth on U.S. Military Base Outside of the United States or Birth on
U.S. Embassy or Consulate Premises Abroad:
(1) Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad
and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of
the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A
child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the
United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of
birth.
>>>>
The liberals are asking us to give Obama time. We agree . . . and think 25 to life would be appropriate.
--Jay Leno
America needs Obama-care like Nancy Pelosi needs a Halloween mask.
--Jay Leno
Q: Have you heard about McDonald's' new Obama Value Meal?
A: Order anything you like and the guy behind you has to pay for it.
--Conan O'Brien
Q: What does Barack Obama call lunch with a convicted felon?
A: A fund raiser.
--Jay Leno
Q: What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
A: One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers, and threats to society. The other is for housing prisoners.
--David Letterman
Q: If Nancy Pelosi and Obama were on a boat in the middle of the ocean and it started to sink, who would be saved?
A: America !
--Jimmy Fallon
Q: What's the difference between Obama and his dog, Bo?
A: Bo has papers.
--Jimmy Kimmel
Q: What was the most positive result of the "Cash for Clunkers" program?
A: It took 95% of the Obama bumper stickers off the road.
--David Letterman
Dude you just made yourself look 10x as bad as the birthers. Why 10x, because at least we dont have evidence on Obama one way or the other but we do have evidence on your comments about McCain.
Do some research about being born on military bases overseas and on the fact that said bases are considered U.S. territory.
Also do some research on the actual incident on the carrier, You will see McCain wasn't responsible.
1. Birth Documents presented during the court case of Hollister v. McCain show that he was born in Colon, Panama. Colon was never part of the US Zone nor was it part of the sub-base. (See image below.)
2. Regarding military bases being considered U.S. Territory, that is incorrect. Dependents of military members born overseas receive citizenship based on Jus sanguinis (bloodline) not Jus soli (birth on soil).
U.S. Department of State Foreign Affairs Manual
7 FAM 1113 NOT INCLUDED IN THE
MEANING OF "IN THE UNITED STATES"
c. Birth on U.S. Military Base Outside of the United States or Birth on
U.S. Embassy or Consulate Premises Abroad:
(1) Despite widespread popular belief, U.S. military installations abroad
and U.S. diplomatic or consular facilities abroad are not part of
the United States within the meaning of the 14th Amendment. A
child born on the premises of such a facility is not born in the
United States and does not acquire U.S. citizenship by reason of
birth.
>>>>
Ok thanks.
So he is still a US citizen then according to what you posted based on bloodline (Jus sanguinis) not birthplace.
So you are saying that since the birthers are claiming the BC Obama released is not official, Dump Truck was talking about an UNofficial BC for himself to discredit Obama!!!Dump Truck has already been caught lying and yet you still believe him.Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
It took me one hour to get my birth certificate. Its inconceivable that, after four years of questioning, the president still hasnt produced his birth certificate. Im just asking President Obama to show the public his birth certificate. Whys he making an issue out of this?"
-Dump Truck
Umm in your quote he never said "from the city of new york" he just said it took him one hour to get it.
Just saying, you need to provide the right quote or else it looks like you are grasping at straws.
What I want to know is if you were born at home and not at a hospital but in the US and not of US citizens are you screwed? You are born here but no birth record because you were delivered at home like most of our founding fathers!
Trump just told Pat Buchanan and Ed Rendell on MSNBC in phone interview that there are documents of travel records of Obama's mom from Kenya. I bet Trump already has the goods on Obama and is releasing this slowly.
