Oh you mean when somebody says he didn't win the popular vote because illegal 3 to 5 million illegal immigrants voted against without having a shred of evidence he isn't disassociated from reality? Or when press secretaries tell obvious lies and then claim the press is to blame? Or when certain people claim sexual assault is acceptable if you're a celebrity? Or might it be that those are the reasons people get hysterical when someone like that gets elected to the highest office? Or, and here's a good question. The fact that people completely deny that their is any objective connection between people saying and doing outrageous things and other people reacting negatively to it? Is that dissociation?
Ok, since you are able to distinguish the 2 help me out and tell me how you separate. Grab them by the *****" form or substance? Impersonating disabled reporters. Form or substance? Claiming millions of illegals voted. Form or substance? I can go on and on. If you like psychology so much I'll tell you about Trump. He's someone who lived until seventy without hardly ever having to deal with the word no. In his head there is no room for self-reflection, doubt or empathy. To him everything he says is true. His entire self image is build up around he being right. But unlike most people who have to deal with reality, his money and birth has shielded him from that. He is however now come in a position where denying reality is a recipe for disaster. What we saw with the inauguration controversy is small potatoes with the disappointment he will face when dealing with congress and even more, nations. He will lash out as he has proven time and time again, when faced with any type af adversity and now you guys gave him heavy weapons. So I might be hysteric and realise that I'm probably wrong about him blowing up the world but the potential for him doing it is larger then any president I've ever heard of.
Grab them by the ***** was uttered 12 years ago.
Ah so you contend he has grown up since he was a "youth" of 58 years old. Can you tell me what makes you come to that conclusion? What act of now president Trump supports your opinion that what he said 12 years ago isn't his actual feelings?
Lets just pretend that , "he was only figuratively saying sexual assault as a celebrity is alright", is not a marginal improvement at best. I will instead point out that he wasn't speaking like he was speaking hypothetical but rather descriptive in the Bush tape. And that later a dozen woman then verified his own words, by claiming he did it to them. You also blew right past my question. How do you know that Trump speaks figuratively. I can state my reasoning why I take what he says literal, can you? This brings me right back to your OP and my reply. I can distinguish between what I know and what I think. I can point out exactly what actions of Trump make me hysterical like you try to say. I'm not talking about some media instituted controversy, I'm talking about stuff that is on tape, or on twitter, or said during white house press briefings. You on the other hand speak like I shouldn't take him literally, without offering any type of explanation as to your reasoning. Seems to me I'm firmly grounded in reality, while you just seem to equate your opinion with reality.
Unlike you who is not able to demonstrate why I shouldn't take what he says seriously. You refuse to answer my premise, why is that I wonder? I'll try again
Deflecting again I see. My question is not. What is the definition of figure of speech. My question is What is your reasoning behind assuming Trump isn't supposed to be taken at his word. Why do you believe he wasn't serious about " Just grab them by the *****"? Just to answer your bullshit deflection. Calling people a ***** is something that is used in the English language as a known idiom. Just grab them by the *****, I have never heard outside that tape.
Need no, felt entitled to, yes. There are plenty of actual rapist who have absolutely no problem getting women the regular way. They just like the power it gives them. And there were a dozen accounts of this behavior claimed. Which leads me to conclude that it is likely. Going by Trumps character, his actual saying it happened and woman coming forward he did it. Note I say, likely not certain. Which brings me to the point I've been making from the beginning before you started to try to deflect from the OP you yourself started. I have plenty, rational reason to not like Trump. And the ***** tape doesn't scratch the surface of what Trump has said and done since he entered the public conscience I do not disassociate. You on the other hand, by trying to make an OP with as premise that people are irrational and hysterical when reacting to Trump's behavior negatively have failed. You are instead defending and trying to rationalise things that you probably wouldn't want to teach your children.
