Trump has not built any new fence - sorry, but I told you

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Agreed.
That's why it was a boneheaded policy to begin with. It was never going to happen. It's only useful as a cudgel to bash Dems. In that regard it's effective politically but counterproductive for real border and immigration reform.

But "something" has to be done. Maybe it's not a perfect idea, but it's a start.
The borders are being inundated. The US can only absorb so many refugees.

What is a better solution? Machine gun towers and mine fields?

The worst spots are South Texas, El Paso, and the border from Western Arizona to the Pacific Ocean. More so South Texas because it is so far south. It's 500 miles closer to would-be "immigrants" from Guatemala and other shit holes.

 

[The Original Tree]

Democrats have been working very hard to obstruct the wall. Shitstain obama judges have given court orders obstructing the wall. If you want the wall the democrats have to go.

Stop making excuses for your orange clown. Oooooh the democwats... poor Donny, fkn thin skinned piece of garbage

2nd Timothy 4:3-4 describes you perfectly.

3 For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 4 So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Gawd, a God nut.
Say no more, no point in arguing

Well, just making sure that you know on Judgment Day, when you are asked why you wasted your life doing wicked things, that you will have no excuse for why you devoted your life to telling lies and promoting the lies of others.

Liars cannot enter in to The Kingdom of Heaven.

So unless you change that aspect of your personality and become a seeker and lover of truth, you are literally TOAST!

Phew, I'm terrified

Nah, the terror starts the moment you realize that all the years you denied God's existence, and refused to hear his word, that in the blink of an eye you are suddenly in front of him being judged for your wickedness.

Until then, you will live your life in denial and oblivion.

 

[ph3iron]

What we need to do is start going after illegal employers. Then illegal workers will leave and/or stop coming

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"
No fence needed.

I don't think that's the case at all. Too many illegals are doing fine shacking with family already here or getting gubbment benefits.
It might help "some", but I don't think that alone will solve the problem.

besides, once they're here, theres a millions ways they can find to get by. Even if it's drug dealing or something else criminal.

The problem would be so small it wouldn't even be worth mentioning.

None of you right wingers will EVER just ******* agree and start going after illegal employers. So guess what? You'll never solve this. Illegal employers are the lure. No illegal employers and most of them will pack up and move home.

They are here to work. The VAST majority of them are here to work. Wake up. Don't argue.

It's so obvious.
They work way harder than us rubes
If I was an illegal the last place I'd go is to a voting booth

 

[ph3iron]

Stop making excuses for your orange clown. Oooooh the democwats... poor Donny, fkn thin skinned piece of garbage

2nd Timothy 4:3-4 describes you perfectly.

3 For the time will come when men will not tolerate sound doctrine, but with itching ears they will gather around themselves teachers to suit their own desires. 4 So they will turn their ears away from the truth and turn aside to myths.

Gawd, a God nut.
Say no more, no point in arguing

Well, just making sure that you know on Judgment Day, when you are asked why you wasted your life doing wicked things, that you will have no excuse for why you devoted your life to telling lies and promoting the lies of others.

Liars cannot enter in to The Kingdom of Heaven.

So unless you change that aspect of your personality and become a seeker and lover of truth, you are literally TOAST!

Phew, I'm terrified

Nah, the terror starts the moment you realize that all the years you denied God's existence, and refused to hear his word, that in the blink of an eye you are suddenly in front of him being judged for your wickedness.

Until then, you will live your life in denial and oblivion.

I do, I'm in the trump cult

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Agreed.
That's why it was a boneheaded policy to begin with. It was never going to happen. It's only useful as a cudgel to bash Dems. In that regard it's effective politically but counterproductive for real border and immigration reform.

But "something" has to be done. Maybe it's not a perfect idea, but it's a start.
The borders are being inundated. The US can only absorb so many refugees.

What is a better solution? Machine gun towers and mine fields?

Rates are far lower than in the past. The problem lies with the demographics of those coming.
Fewer single men and many more families and children. The existing facilities and processes are not up to the task. Insted of adjusting, the Trump admin is doing nothing.
Obama had a process that was working.

This Obama-era program kept migrant families together. Trump ended it.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

The problem would be so small it wouldn't even be worth mentioning.
None of you right wingers will EVER just ******* agree and start going after illegal employers. So guess what? You'll never solve this. Illegal employers are the lure. No illegal employers and most of them will pack up and move home.
They are here to work. The VAST majority of them are here to work. Wake up. Don't argue.

Ok, so let's say most are here to work.
If they have no ID, and raids are blocked, and ICE is handcuffed, how do we go after the employers?
The illegals have to be identified first don't they?

 

[WillPower]

Dear RW Trumptardians,

There ain't gonna be no damn wall.

Sincerely,
The Management Staff.

ps.

GFY.

There's already 634 miles of wall, shitbag. Of those. 334 were pedestrian fencing....that has been replaced by Trump and those areas no longer have to be guarded....you lose (as usual).

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Rates are far lower than in the past. The problem lies with the demographics of those coming.
Fewer single men and many more families and children. The existing facilities and processes are not up to the task. Insted of adjusting, the Trump admin is doing nothing.
Obama had a process that was working.

This Obama-era program kept migrant families together. Trump ended it.

so you believe that anyone wanting to come here should just be allowed to ? basically, No borders?

To be honest, my personal first priority is not ensuring families who cross the border illegally stay together,...it is enforcing the laws that keep Law and Order in place.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There is no " invasion".

How can you say that?
You don't believe large numbers of people are coming into the country illegally every month?

Not as an invasion. Numbers are a fraction of what they were in the past.

 

[WillPower]

Willpower,
I would like to, but I'm not certain.
He seems to be trying to do good for America but no matter what, Americans always seem to lose regardless.

At the end of the day, it seems that no matter who is elected, the will of the people is always bypasssed in favor of the will of the deep pocketed deep state, elites or globalists.

Believe me, I would like to believe Trump is on our side. But I'm not fully convinced.

Trusting government to fix bad government is a folly.

Look, I don't care whether you are optimistic or not....things are so vastly improved under Trump, only a leftist would deny it. Being a nihilist means you've settled on living without hope....you should check yourself...there's not many old nihilists.

 

[ph3iron]

Rat judges have prevented new fencing but Chertoff's fence has been replaced and repaired...saying there is no "new" fence is a lie.

I think they meant no "entirely new" wall where there was no barrier or wall or fence before.
There may have been some replacement of previously existing fence, but nothing new where it never existed before that I'm aware of.

What did you expect from these commie rats? There are 6 pending lawsuits against "new" fencing in areas not now fenced. They were especially adamant he can't fence the Rio Grande area....what kind of people are these? But Chertoff's fencing has been repaired and replaced because access and easements were done when we owned both Houses and the WH. We will again....that's the race....how many illegals can these perverts get into the US before they lose power in 2021? Your assertions Trump hasn't been genuine are ridiculous and you should admit it.

Commie rats? Perverts?
Amazing how trumpies are so familiar with strange sex. Wonder why?
We know where this zero college rube is coming from.
Why did the con refuse $28 billion again for the wall that he originally agreed to?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I think "most" Americans want to help those really needing asylum because of fear for their lives in their home country.

But the fact of the matter is a nation cannot absorb everyone that want to come just for the "good times".
Not unless everyone agrees to an end to those good times for all.

Most people in the US are ok with LEGAL immigration. But not an invasion. I think.

There is no " invasion".

Record number of parasitic illegals flooding our border and raiding tax dollars from our Social Safety Net, is an Invasion!

Record numbers?
No.
Unprecidented incompetence.

 

[WillPower]

Not as an invasion. Numbers are a fraction of what they were in the past.

LMAO!! You're a lying sack of shit.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

What did you expect from these commie rats? There are 6 pending lawsuits against "new" fencing in areas not now fenced. They were especially adamant he can't fence the Rio Grande area....what kind of people are these? But Chertoff's fencing has been repaired and replaced because access and easements were done when we owned both Houses and the WH. We will again....that's the race....how many illegals can these perverts get into the US before they lose power in 2021? Your assertions Trump hasn't been genuine are ridiculous and you should admit it.

Willpower,
I would like to, but I'm not certain.
He seems to be trying to do good for America but no matter what, Americans always seem to lose regardless.

At the end of the day, it seems that no matter who is elected, the will of the people is always bypasssed in favor of the will of the deep pocketed deep state, elites or globalists.

Believe me, I would like to believe Trump is on our side. But I'm not fully convinced.

Trusting government to fix bad government is a folly.

Term limits, ending insider trading for Congress, and campaign spending caps looks more and more attractive.

The problem is that the very people who are capable of making those changes are the back stabbers who need to be termed.

.

 

[WillPower]

Commie rats? Perverts?
Amazing how trumpies are so familiar with strange sex. Wonder why?
We know where this zero college rube is coming from.
Why did the con refuse $28 billion again for the wall that he originally agreed to?

That's what you are.....an ignorant creep who never got a GED....now scamper back to your nest, rat.

 

[ph3iron]

Willpower,
I would like to, but I'm not certain.
He seems to be trying to do good for America but no matter what, Americans always seem to lose regardless.

At the end of the day, it seems that no matter who is elected, the will of the people is always bypasssed in favor of the will of the deep pocketed deep state, elites or globalists.

Believe me, I would like to believe Trump is on our side. But I'm not fully convinced.

Trusting government to fix bad government is a folly.

Look, I don't care whether you are optimistic or not....things are so vastly improved under Trump, only a leftist would deny it. Being a nihilist means you've settled on living without hope....you should check yourself...there's not many old nihilists.

What are "things" ?
My 401 k that the majority of his rubes don't have?
The fewer jobs he created than Obama?
His first 2 years, Obamas last 2?
I assume you are sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Not as an invasion. Numbers are a fraction of what they were in the past.

So, how many does it take to be an invasion? What's the number?

Does raising the Mexican Flag and an ICE facility count as an invasion?

.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Rates are far lower than in the past. The problem lies with the demographics of those coming.
Fewer single men and many more families and children. The existing facilities and processes are not up to the task. Insted of adjusting, the Trump admin is doing nothing.
Obama had a process that was working.

This Obama-era program kept migrant families together. Trump ended it.

so you believe that anyone wanting to come here should just be allowed to ? basically, No borders?

To be honest, my personal first priority is not ensuring families who cross the border illegally stay together,...it is enforcing the laws that keep Law and Order in place.

I didn't say anything about allowing people to come here. I was critical of Trump's policies and how they're not handling this well at all.

 

[ph3iron]

Commie rats? Perverts?
Amazing how trumpies are so familiar with strange sex. Wonder why?
We know where this zero college rube is coming from.
Why did the con refuse $28 billion again for the wall that he originally agreed to?

That's what you are.....an ignorant creep who never got a GED....now scamper back to your nest, rat.

No answer on my question?
Your college again?
I missed it
Any more insults? Dead giveaway for zero Ed?
You're not supposed to do that darlin in a debate. You automatically lose once you insult. Basic rules.
Don't have them in WV?

 

[WillPower]

What are "things" ?
My 401 k that the majority of his rubes don't have?
The fewer jobs he created than Obama?
His first 2 years, Obamas last 2?
I assume you are sucking off your commie VA SS Medicare?

You have no idea what a 401k is...you're an idiot posting in a library and your hour is almost up, .