Trump has Changed the Template. The Next President Must be a Businessman. Who Can Fill His Shoes?

[kyzr]

And $8T of that was on his first term.
Do you deny that?

No, that is true.
Biden also added $8T to the debt, do you deny that?
So almost half the $37T national debt was added in 8-years by Trump-45 and Biden.

Trump-47 and the BBB should generate a surplus, do you deny that?

 

[leftwinger]

Trump is unique in American history

He cant be duplicated like the recipe for a cake

There a some high profile business names I don't want. Tim *** Cook, Bezos, Cuban....those types the media will try to shoehorn to the top.

There are probably good ones? But in year 5 of news blackout I don't know any names.

 

[leftwinger]

Trump is worth $5.1b today. Give him credit for working his ass off until he succeeded.

Donald Trump

Donald Trump is #645 on Forbes' 2026 Billionaires list. Read more about Donald Trump, their experience, their asset summary, and more here.

www.forbes.com

It is hard to make money. It may be equally hard to hang onto it? Everybody wants some.

 

[candycorn]

The next president should not have been determined by the courts to be a sexual abuser, a business fraud, or a convicted felon, certainly not a crass megalomaniac who brays that he is the KING OF DEBT!

If he raves hysterically that Black immigrants are eating pet cats and dogs, he should be sedated.

A barely competent mayor of a medium sized city could do a far better job for the nation.

No, that is true.
Biden also added $8T to the debt, do you deny that?
So almost half the $37T national debt was added in 8-years by Trump-45 and Biden.

So by your own admission, Trump is no better than Biden.

Trump-47 and the BBB should generate a surplus, do you deny that?

Yes I do.

Tariffs are not going to replace the billions and billions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich.

 

[Meister]

Itd be nice to see some average paycheck to paycheck person get their chance.

The only way that could ever happen is if he wore a dress and identified as
female lesbian and voted democrat.

 

[Mac-7]

There a some high profile business names I dont want. Tim *** Cook, Bezos, Cuban....those types the media will try to shoehorn to the top.

There are probably good ones? But in year 5 Iof news blackout I dont know any names.

I think Vance is proving to be a logical successor to trump

 

[leftwinger]

A barely competent mayor of a medium sized city could do a far better job for the nation.

So by your own admission, Trump is no better than Biden.


Yes I do.

Tariffs are not going to replace the billions and billions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich.

They really need a pathetic icon for the one-trick rabid anarchist idiot poster above. Sad is all I can find?

 

[candycorn]

Sad os all I can find?

Perhaps you should find your psychiatric medications or your Hooked On Phonics CD?

 

[kyzr]

So by your own admission, Trump is no better than Biden.

I agree that the Covid pandemic, which shut the country down for a time, affected the economic plans for both presidents.

Yes I do deny the BBB will generate a surplus. Tariffs are not going to replace the billions and billions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich.

1. The tax cuts are not new, the tax rates in-place for Trump-45 and Biden were extended and made permanent. Biden and the democrats did NOT raise the tax rates.

2. Mathematically, the CBO estimates that the BBB will add $3.8T to the debt over 10-years, or $380b a year.
But the CBO assumptions are flawed.
1. Tariffs will raise at least $300b a year
2. DOGE can save $190b a year is congress acts
3. The GDP should be higher than the 1.8% CBO assumes, generating much more revenue
4. The Fed will start lowering interest rates saving the budget $300b for every 1% drop on interest on the $37T

Trump's budgets start in October, say by next summer there should be a surplus, unless the morons give us rebate checks.

 

[candycorn]

I agree that the Covid pandemic, which shut the country down for a time, affected the economic plans for both presidents.

Yeah, the blob had Covid for 10 months. The other 38 months he was in office he didn’t have to deal with it.

Nice try.

1. The tax cuts are not new, the tax rates in-place for Trump-45 and Biden were extended and made permanent. Biden and the democrats did NOT raise the tax rates.

2. Mathematically, the CBO estimates that the BBB will add $3.8T to the debt over 10-years, or $380b a year.
But the CBO assumptions are flawed.
1. Tariffs will raise at least $300b a year
2. DOGE can save $190b a year is congress acts
3. The GDP should be higher than the 1.8% CBO assumes, generating much more revenue
4. The Fed will start lowering interest rates saving the budget $300b for every 1% drop on interest on the $37T

Trump's budgets start in October, say by next summer there should be a surplus, unless the morons give us rebate checks.

Okay...so when the blob oozes out of office, you expect him to have ran a surplus right?

Will you lay down your marker on that now so we can compare notes later on?

I say he’ll add over $6T to the national debt by that time. What say you?

 

[kyzr]

Yeah, the blob had Covid for 10 months. The other 38 months he was in office he didn’t have to deal with it. Nice try.

Its true. The Covid shutdown started March 2020, and ended by March 2021, just as Biden took office. Read this link:

The COVID-19 shutdown: A timeline of how the pandemic changed the US economy

Although the U.S. has passed the two-year mark since the arrival of COVID-19, the country is still working to recover from the economic toll of the pandemic. In March 2020, the U.S. shut down its e…

thehill.com

Okay...so when the blob oozes out of office, you expect him to have ran a surplus right?
Will you lay down your marker on that now so we can compare notes later on?
I say he’ll add over $6T to the national debt by that time. What say you?

A fair challenge! I have to accept, but I doubt either of us will remember the bet in 40 months.
One of us should revisit the Trump deficit or surplus in a thread every so often.
I'll take the "under" net zero add to the debt at the end of 47's term, Mid-Point being +$3T, we'll see who is closer.

 

[initforme]

If people start retiring earlier and leave the workforce earlier we know things are getting better.

 

[candycorn]

Its true. The Covid shutdown started March 2020, and ended by March 2021, just as Biden took office. Read this link:

The COVID-19 shutdown: A timeline of how the pandemic changed the US economy

Although the U.S. has passed the two-year mark since the arrival of COVID-19, the country is still working to recover from the economic toll of the pandemic. In March 2020, the U.S. shut down its e…

thehill.com

Okay so your blob had covid of 9 months. He stil ran up $8T in red ink.

A fair challenge! I have to accept, but I doubt either of us will remember the bet in 40 months.
One of us should revisit the Trump deficit or surplus in a thread every so often.
I'll take the "under" net zero add to the debt at the end of 47's term, Mid-Point being +$3T, we'll see who is closer.

Wow...a few posts ago, you said he was going to run a surplus.

Trump-47 and the BBB should generate a surplus, do you deny that?

Now you’re saying he’s going to add $3T in debt when challenged.

I guess we’ll just call you KACO...Kyzr-always-chickens-out.

 

[leftwinger]

I agree that the Covid pandemic, which shut the country down for a time, affected the economic plans for both presidents.

1. The tax cuts are not new, the tax rates in-place for Trump-45 and Biden were extended and made permanent. Biden and the democrats did NOT raise the tax rates.

2. Mathematically, the CBO estimates that the BBB will add $3.8T to the debt over 10-years, or $380b a year.
But the CBO assumptions are flawed.
1. Tariffs will raise at least $300b a year
2. DOGE can save $190b a year is congress acts
3. The GDP should be higher than the 1.8% CBO assumes, generating much more revenue
4. The Fed will start lowering interest rates saving the budget $300b for every 1% drop on interest on the $37T

Trump's budgets start in October, say by next summer there should be a surplus, unless the morons give us rebate checks.

You could tell the Stain all of this 100 times and they still runoff to another topic to repeat the same BS.

Like WidaBeast in packs running around the tundra seemingly aimlessly. //

 

[candycorn]

If people start retiring earlier and leave the workforce earlier we know things are getting better.

Agreed.

Its not going to happen though. Sweeney Todd--“"The history of the world, my sweet, is who gets eaten and who gets to eat,” The middle class is on the menu.

A co-worker of mine had her mother die suddenly recently. The funeral director advised her that there is a near month wait for using a crematorium. Why? Because fewer and fewer can afford funerals and burials.

 

[kyzr]

Okay so your blob had covid of 9 months. He stil ran up $8T in red ink.
Wow...a few posts ago, you said he was going to run a surplus.

He should run a surplus, but if this is some kind of bet, the closer guess should win.

Now you’re saying he’s going to add $3T in debt when challenged.
I guess we’ll just call you KACO...Kyzr-always-chickens-out.

I'm saying that Trump will add zero to the $37T. I hope he starts paying it down.
Your $6T add gives me $3T to play with. LOL

 

[candycorn]

He should run a surplus, but if this is some kind of bet, the closer guess should win.

I'm saying that Trump will add zero to the $37T. I hope he starts paying it down.
Your $6T add gives me $3T to play with. LOL

Hard to argue with that logic...primarily because there is no logic in your argument.

Wow.

 

[kyzr]

Hard to argue with that logic...primarily because there is no logic in your argument. Wow.

Math is racist?

If you say the answer is 6, and I say the answer is zero, where is the midpoint between those two numbers to see who is closer?

 

[initforme]

Agreed.

Its not going to happen though. Sweeney Todd--“"The history of the world, my sweet, is who gets eaten and who gets to eat,” The middle class is on the menu.

A co-worker of mine had her mother die suddenly recently. The funeral director advised her that there is a near month wait for using a crematorium. Why? Because fewer and fewer can afford funerals and burials.

Thats really sad. The country expects people to work and make it better. Use them up and let them die. So wonderful.

 

[schmidlap]

A barely competent mayor of a medium sized city could do a far better job for the nation...

Tariffs are not going to replace the billions and billions of dollars in tax cuts for the rich.

Treating the presidency as a comprehensive, administrative position would be preferable to a cheesy, ego-driven, hyper-partisan show business extravaganza.

I'd prefer a faceless bureaucrat of modest pretense who eschews all the vulgar glitz.

"Bray loudly and flail a gilded scepter!" seems to work for some.