Trump: "Fund the wall or the border gets shut completely!"

[Uncensored2008]

[
She married well

Now she is Trumps worst nightmare

She was born an aristocrat and married an aristocrat. She then set out to use government to steal everything that wasn't nailed down, and pass laws against nails so she could steal the rest.

And you trained seals clap your flippers and bark at how wonderful corruption is.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What possible reason can leftists have for not improving border security? It's almost like they want the nation to collapse like a rotten pumpkin left out in the snow.

You either care about the nation or you don't. And if you don't you don't deserve to live here and should be hunted down and beaten with pool cues and ax handles (Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer first, of course).

Why is it that everything Republicans want to do has to be accomplished through the lens of stupidity?

Try and imagine yourself using the brain God gave you, and you woke up one day and said to yourself, I really want border security from illegals. What is the easiest and most cost effective way to do that? We'll, let me see. Why do illegals come here? For work. Got it. Who hires them? U.S. citizens. Got it again. So, if I arrest these U.S. citizens or enablers, or employers who hire them, then where would the illegals work? Wow, now isn't that a great idea for border security. If they have no work, they would go back home. And without a wall, they won't even have to climb over that wall to get back. See how simple that is? And all it took was for us to use our brain to come up with such an easy strategy for an easy problem.

Arrest enablers? start with Trump golf courses?

So Comrade, you want to start arresting all Trump supporters then?

 

[Otium]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count and someone was winging it.

 

[rightwinger]

[
She married well

Now she is Trumps worst nightmare

She was born an aristocrat and married an aristocrat. She then set out to use government to steal everything that wasn't nailed down, and pass laws against nails so she could steal the rest.

And you trained seals clap your flippers and bark at how wonderful corruption is.

What was Trump?

 

[rightwinger]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count Amd someone was winging it.

Trump lacked the votes then, he lacks the votes now

 

[Otium]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count Amd someone was winging it.

Once Dems take the House, Nancy will gladly put Trumps wall up for a vote

Trump will be ***** slapped

It already passed the House. And the American people would lose not Trump. He is the vassal for the wall desired by the people.

 

[skookerasbil]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count Amd someone was winging it.

Trump lacked the votes then, he lacks the votes now

Sure can see your confidence s0n....what is this, the 20th post of the thread for you?

Ghey

 

[Otium]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count Amd someone was winging it.

Trump lacked the votes then, he lacks the votes now

Sure can see your confidence s0n....what is this, the 20th post of the thread for you?

Ghey

He missed the news of the Bill's passage with $5.7 billion allotted to the Wall.

 

[Otium]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count Amd someone was winging it.

Trump lacked the votes then, he lacks the votes now

You ever heard of Google?



WTF is the matter with you? The Big passed the House with Trump's Wall getting $5.7 billion .

 

[eagle1462010]

Border Security, Government Shutdowns, and Political Chicken

I know that $5 billion is real money to most Americans.

From a budget perspective, however (the context in which this discussion is taking place), $5 billion is a rounding error. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) budget projection for FY 2018 as of May 2018 showed federal government outlays of $4.1 trillion. That means that if the president's wall request is 0.12 percent of last year's federal budget. Even CNN Politics (which indicates that the total federal budget is the higher $4.4 trillion) states: "And that $5 billion might sound like a lot, but the US government brings in and spends trillions of dollars each year."

So why would the Democrats want to stop a budget of more than $4 trillion from being enacted over 1/820th of that budget?

Politics.

Want proof? There were 80 Senators who voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. As the Congressional Research Service (CRS)described that bill, in part it:

Among the Senators who voted for that bill were Democrats Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein of California, Tom Carper of Delaware, Hillary Clinton of New York, Chris Dodd of Connecticut, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, Barbara Mikulski of Maryland, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, and Ron Wyden of Oregon, as well as Joe Biden of Delaware and Barack Obama of Illinois. And Chuck Schumer of New York. You do not need to follow politics closely to know that these are not what we would call "immigration hawks".

Schumer, Carper, Feinstein, Stabenow, and Wyden still sit in the Senate. Clinton left to become secretary of state, and then ran an unsuccessful campaign for president. Obama and Biden left to become president and vice president, respectively. And Carper is a Deputy Democratic Whip and Schumer is the Minority Leader of the upper chamber.

A cynic would assert that those senators cast those votes because it was brought to the floor 40 days before the 2006 midterm elections, and did not want their party (which was cruising to a victory in those elections, in which it captured both chambers from the Republicans) to appear soft on border security. Democrats in more tenuous seats (for example, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, both of whom would later lose reelection), also voted in favor of the bill, but again, that does not prove that they did not support the bill or its intent

 

[Kilroy2]

Are you comparing terrorist and people at war with asylum seekers

One of the major lies told by you Bolsheviks is that the wall won't stop the hostile invasion of America.

It's a stupid lie, but one that is easily destroyed by looking at the wall in Israel.

The wall was built when the Palistinians and Isreal were at war. The second intifada lasted about 4 years when things settle down. So the reason for the wall was to stop terrorist attacks when a war was going on because Isreal was seizing land and the palistinians fought back.

Hamas and Israel are still at war

A wall is nothing but a symbol

For ET it is a symbol to his supporters

Again, the wall in Israel stops Hamas, a far more motivated attacker than the Drug Cartels that rule Mexico are.

BTW, Israel feeds and supports Hamas. If there is a war, Israel need only stop sending food, water, medicine, and fuel to the Arabs.
.

 

[Kilroy2]

Quote - Again, the wall in Israel stops Hamas, a far more motivated attacker than the Drug Cartels that rule Mexico are.

BTW, Israel feeds and supports Hamas. If there is a war, Israel need only stop sending food, water, medicine, and fuel to the Arabs. Quote

again the wall does not stop Hamas

Hamas has refused to disarm and its leaders have remained committed to the group’s strategy of so-called armed resistance. The fighting has reduced but they are still listed as a terrorist organization that commit terrorist acts.

I know that its hard for you to believe but not all Arabs belong to hamas

The Drug cartels are motivated

They build tunnels under mountains, They use planes, cars and boats

since 2016 they have found 224 tunnels

So tell me how does a wall stop a tunnel

how does a wall stop a speed boat

how does a wall stop trains, vehicles and trucks smuggling

pointing to a wall in isreal will not stop the drug cartels.

neither will a wall

The best way to stop the cartel is boots on the ground

people doing searches and using technology to find those who try to go accross the border

Let law enforcement organizations handle instead of arm chair quarterbacks.

 

[Kilroy2]

Border Security, Government Shutdowns, and Political Chicken

I know that $5 billion is real money to most Americans.

From a budget perspective, however (the context in which this discussion is taking place), $5 billion is a rounding error. The Congressional Budget Office (CBO) budget projection for FY 2018 as of May 2018 showed federal government outlays of $4.1 trillion. That means that if the president's wall request is 0.12 percent of last year's federal budget. Even CNN Politics (which indicates that the total federal budget is the higher $4.4 trillion) states: "And that $5 billion might sound like a lot, but the US government brings in and spends trillions of dollars each year."

So why would the Democrats want to stop a budget of more than $4 trillion from being enacted over 1/820th of that budget?

Politics.

Want proof? There were 80 Senators who voted in favor of the Secure Fence Act of 2006. As the Congressional Research Service (CRS)described that bill, in part it:

Among the Senators who voted for that bill were Democrats Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein of California, Tom Carper of Delaware, Hillary Clinton of New York, Chris Dodd of Connecticut, Tom Harkin of Iowa, Herb Kohl of Wisconsin, Barbara Mikulski of Maryland, Debbie Stabenow of Michigan, and Ron Wyden of Oregon, as well as Joe Biden of Delaware and Barack Obama of Illinois. And Chuck Schumer of New York. You do not need to follow politics closely to know that these are not what we would call "immigration hawks".

Schumer, Carper, Feinstein, Stabenow, and Wyden still sit in the Senate. Clinton left to become secretary of state, and then ran an unsuccessful campaign for president. Obama and Biden left to become president and vice president, respectively. And Carper is a Deputy Democratic Whip and Schumer is the Minority Leader of the upper chamber.

A cynic would assert that those senators cast those votes because it was brought to the floor 40 days before the 2006 midterm elections, and did not want their party (which was cruising to a victory in those elections, in which it captured both chambers from the Republicans) to appear soft on border security. Democrats in more tenuous seats (for example, Mary Landrieu of Louisiana and Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas, both of whom would later lose reelection), also voted in favor of the bill, but again, that does not prove that they did not support the bill or its intent

They did vote for the Secure Fence Act of 2006, which authorized building a fence about 700 miles

Still this is not what ET is proposing and the amount of money he is asking for is signifcantly more that the fence

This must of been what ET was talking about when he took credit for building a fence that was done in 2009

Well back to the issue at hand, first he originally was talking about a 30 to 50 foot concrete wall (depending on what day of the week) from sea to shining sea but he did say that the mountains can be used. Which is a fallacy becomes they build tunnels under the mountains and they have been already been found.

If ET gets off that high horse he might be able to get something done but if all you do is threaten, call names, and change your story every few hours , then good luck with that

granted now he is moving towards a metal fence

Still a good welder can cut a few pieces of the fence and say open sesame and then put it back for furure usage

Thus you must still rely on Border patrols, and surveillance, and other things that they are using now without a wall or fence

Demos and Repubs with a Repub president can get things done

But ET has no political experience and doesn't know how to get things done

 

[Slyhunter]

Quote - Again, the wall in Israel stops Hamas, a far more motivated attacker than the Drug Cartels that rule Mexico are.

BTW, Israel feeds and supports Hamas. If there is a war, Israel need only stop sending food, water, medicine, and fuel to the Arabs. Quote

again the wall does not stop Hamas

Hamas has refused to disarm and its leaders have remained committed to the group’s strategy of so-called armed resistance. The fighting has reduced but they are still listed as a terrorist organization that commit terrorist acts.

I know that its hard for you to believe but not all Arabs belong to hamas

The Drug cartels are motivated

They build tunnels under mountains, They use planes, cars and boats

since 2016 they have found 224 tunnels

So tell me how does a wall stop a tunnel

how does a wall stop a speed boat

how does a wall stop trains, vehicles and trucks smuggling

pointing to a wall in isreal will not stop the drug cartels.

neither will a wall

The best way to stop the cartel is boots on the ground

people doing searches and using technology to find those who try to go accross the border

Let law enforcement organizations handle instead of arm chair quarterbacks.

Because a wall will not stop 100% is not a reason to not build it. Toothbrushing doesn't always stop tooth decay but you still do it. It stops a large portion of it.

 

[dudmuck]

What possible reason can leftists have for not improving border security? It's almost like they want the nation to collapse like a rotten pumpkin left out in the snow.

You either care about the nation or you don't. And if you don't you don't deserve to live here and should be hunted down and beaten with pool cues and ax handles (Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer first, of course).

Why is it that everything Republicans want to do has to be accomplished through the lens of stupidity?

Try and imagine yourself using the brain God gave you, and you woke up one day and said to yourself, I really want border security from illegals. What is the easiest and most cost effective way to do that? We'll, let me see. Why do illegals come here? For work. Got it. Who hires them? U.S. citizens. Got it again. So, if I arrest these U.S. citizens or enablers, or employers who hire them, then where would the illegals work? Wow, now isn't that a great idea for border security. If they have no work, they would go back home. And without a wall, they won't even have to climb over that wall to get back. See how simple that is? And all it took was for us to use our brain to come up with such an easy strategy for an easy problem.

Arrest enablers? start with Trump golf courses?

So Comrade, you want to start arresting all Trump supporters then?

Certainly not. Never said anything about Trump supports. I was referring to Trump golf courses employing undocumented workers. Even the FBI has fake green cards from his golf courses.

 

[watchingfromafar]

President Ronald Reagan didn't like "walls"

"Tear down this wall!" is a line from a speech made by U.S. President Ronald Reagan in West Berlin on Friday, June 12, 1987, calling for the leader of the Soviet .

Sep 20, 2012 - A crane removes a section of the Berlin Wall on November 11, 1989, as West ... When Reagan declared "Tear down this Wall,

But the Chinese know how to build a "wall"; maybe trump should ask them for some technical help?


https://tinyurl.com/y82k7l9u

just a suggestion -

 

[BWK]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count and someone was winging it.

Bottom line, Trump lied. He said Mexico would pay for it. He went back on his campaign promise. He's just a liar.

 

[BWK]

What possible reason can leftists have for not improving border security? It's almost like they want the nation to collapse like a rotten pumpkin left out in the snow.

You either care about the nation or you don't. And if you don't you don't deserve to live here and should be hunted down and beaten with pool cues and ax handles (Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer first, of course).

Why is it that everything Republicans want to do has to be accomplished through the lens of stupidity?

Try and imagine yourself using the brain God gave you, and you woke up one day and said to yourself, I really want border security from illegals. What is the easiest and most cost effective way to do that? We'll, let me see. Why do illegals come here? For work. Got it. Who hires them? U.S. citizens. Got it again. So, if I arrest these U.S. citizens or enablers, or employers who hire them, then where would the illegals work? Wow, now isn't that a great idea for border security. If they have no work, they would go back home. And without a wall, they won't even have to climb over that wall to get back. See how simple that is? And all it took was for us to use our brain to come up with such an easy strategy for an easy problem.

Arrest enablers? start with Trump golf courses?

So Comrade, you want to start arresting all Trump supporters then?

If they're hiring illegals, I don't care who they are. Lock em up.

And when were Trump supporters your concern? I thought illegals was the emergency? Lol! See what I mean about all this false outrage over illegals. You're full of shit.

 

[skookerasbil]

Quote - Again, the wall in Israel stops Hamas, a far more motivated attacker than the Drug Cartels that rule Mexico are.

BTW, Israel feeds and supports Hamas. If there is a war, Israel need only stop sending food, water, medicine, and fuel to the Arabs. Quote

again the wall does not stop Hamas

Hamas has refused to disarm and its leaders have remained committed to the group’s strategy of so-called armed resistance. The fighting has reduced but they are still listed as a terrorist organization that commit terrorist acts.

I know that its hard for you to believe but not all Arabs belong to hamas

The Drug cartels are motivated

They build tunnels under mountains, They use planes, cars and boats

since 2016 they have found 224 tunnels

So tell me how does a wall stop a tunnel

how does a wall stop a speed boat

how does a wall stop trains, vehicles and trucks smuggling

pointing to a wall in isreal will not stop the drug cartels.

neither will a wall

The best way to stop the cartel is boots on the ground

people doing searches and using technology to find those who try to go accross the border

Let law enforcement organizations handle instead of arm chair quarterbacks.

Because a wall will not stop 100% is not a reason to not build it. Toothbrushing doesn't always stop tooth decay but you still do it. It stops a large portion of it.

Jerkoffs get bamboozled by every loose association ruse put out by the media talking head bozos, right?!! Ghey

 

[Slyhunter]

Given how Trump caves 100% of the time when challenged, we can be sure Trump will cave on his latest promise.

Remember, Pelosi has far bigger balls than Trump does. She's going to *****-slap him and leave him whimpering. Again.

Somehow you missed the fact that Nancy has her speakership on the line. And she already got “*****-slapped” —to borrow your ghetto expression — in rhe oval office meeting by Trump after declaring that he lacked the votes in RINO Ryan’s House to get our $5 billion.

She insisted he lacked the votes.

Someone did a whip count and someone was winging it.

Bottom line, Trump lied. He said Mexico would pay for it. He went back on his campaign promise. He's just a liar.

Mexico already paid for it in the renegotiated trade deal. The money we saved on it more than makes up the cost of the wall.