Trump empowers Democrats

[White 6]

Yes, both parties have their crazies, but the Democratic Party is allowing their crazies to run the show or at the very least are giving them a megaphone that gives the impression that they are running the show. Why weren’t they condemning more vehemently the anti-Israel protests on college campuses, for example? Why do they perpetuate the Trump is Hitler narrative and that it will be the end of Democracy if he is elected? Normal people don’t believe that kind of stuff.

I actually paid most attention, (though have not called him that on here) when I heard it from prominent Republicans the worked for him, with him, in his administration, hand picked by him, even military 4 stars, that I would obviously respect, not to mention knowing that the man that will be his Vice President, thought the same, to the point of saying in public, long before Trump elevated him to be his running mate. These conservative Republicans are fairly normal people, not the kind to yell "fire" in theater. It is cautionary. Either you see the similarities or you don't. I'm a "wait and see" type, myself.

 

[White 6]

The problem for the left is that the radicals are the loudest mouths and the more moderate Democrats and the Democratic Party is petrified to stand up to them. I would be willing to bet that the average Union Democrat doesn't approve of a biological male playing on the same sports team as his daughter. I bet many don't buy into the "from the river to the sea" narrative. How many Democratic soccer moms are really in favor of no restrictions on abortion? Why doesn't the Democratic Party stand up and tell these nuts to sit down and shut up? They can create their own 3rd party if they want to be so extreme. People like JoeB131 can donate his hard earned money to that party and he and his wife can attend the protests with people wearing vagina suits. The silence of the Democratic Party essentially condones the extremists behavior and thus they will continue to bleed voters.

No more so, than the moderates of the Republican party. There is no fundamental difference in "go along to get along", "ride the wave" mentality in the two parties. As, I have said here many times, the two parties suck. That is why I have been an Independent since the Nixon debacle, picking either who I thought would be best or at worst, who has potential to do the least damage.

 

[SweetTea]

Oh, my wife isn't really interested in politics, and trends a bit more conservative than I do. Attack on family reported.

Nobody attacked your family. I stated that you and your wife could attend a left-wing rally wearing vagina outfits, which means you would fit right in. How is that an attack?

Kudos for your wife. Coming from China, one would think she would be adept at seeing just where the Democratic policies lead. Most people in the US from Communist countries lean heavily Republican.

 

[SweetTea]

Take abortion. You guys kept claiming that you only wanted to stop "late-term" abortions (a misnomer), but when given a chance, you guys put in six-week bans wherever you could.

And when given the chance, you nuts place no restrictions at all. 27 states have no gestational restrictions at all and abortion is legal up to the moment of birth. 4 states have 6 week bans. Obviously we aren't the radical ones.

Or for transgender, you only have to look at the freakout during the Olympics when two biological females who didn't look "feminine" enough won contests.

So for this reason we must allow biological males to compete against biological females and to allow them in the same locker rooms? Yeah, you don't realize that you are in the super minority opinion on this issue. Being surrounded by like-minded nuts in Chicago makes you think that the rest of the country is just like you guys. We aren't, thank God.

As for Israel, more and more Americans are seeing that atrocity for what it is. I think when Bibi tricks Trump into going to war with Iran, you are going to see a lot more people change their minds.

Nobody with any common sense believes that Israel is committing genocide and that is the rhetoric the left-wing nuts are pushing. If Israel wanted to kill all the Palestinians, it would have happened a long time ago. Oct. 7th pissed them off, go figure.

Ask yourself this question. How many Arabs live in Israel? How many Jews live in Gaza? A Jewish person could not live in Gaza even if they wanted to. They would be killed. It is the Palestinians and other radical Muslim Arabs that want the Jewish state of Israel irradicated, not the Jewish people that want Arabs eradicated. Ayatollah Khamenei stated that "It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region" and "[There is only one possible solution to unrest in the Middle East], namely the annihilation and destruction of the Zionist state." Iran is evil, but since you are evil, you are unable to see it. Their leadership needs to be completely destroyed.

 

[JoeB131]

Joey troll says Trump's a racist

Blacks and Hispanics turn out in record number FOR him.

Trump hates women

President Trump hires the first female chief of staff in history.

Joeytrolls programming nevers changes.
Truth be damned.

The truth speaks for itself.

That some sellouts are working against themselves doesn't impress me.

 

[Rawley]

They need to knife Bernie Sanders, most of their BS can be laid on his doorstep.

?? He's not even a Dem

 

[SweetTea]

The truth speaks for itself.

There is no truth that supports the narrative. You have been duped.

That some sellouts are working against themselves doesn't impress me.

The "sellouts" are the ones that are actually thinking for themselves and not letting the MSM spoof feed them garbage.

 

[JoeB131]

And when given the chance, you nuts place no restrictions at all. 27 states have no gestational restrictions at all and abortion is legal up to the moment of birth. 4 states have 6 week bans. Obviously we aren't the radical ones.

The only restriction should be "do the woman and her doctor think it's prudent"?

Do you really think any woman is going to go through six months of pregnancy and then say, "**** it, I want an abortion!" Of course not. If they are having a late abortion, something has gone wrong, or at least they think it has.

So for this reason we must allow biological males to compete against biological females and to allow them in the same locker rooms? Yeah, you don't realize that you are in the super minority opinion on this issue. Being surrounded by like-minded nuts in Chicago makes you think that the rest of the country is just like you guys. We aren't, thank God.

Doing what is right is doing what is right.

In the 1950's, equal rights for blacks was a minority opinion.
In the 1960s, equal rights for women was a miniority opinion.
In the 1990s, equal rights for gays was a minority opinion.

Here's how you can tell you are on the wrong side of history on the Trans rights issue. Big corporations are going all in on trans-rights.

Nobody with any common sense believes that Israel is committing genocide and that is the rhetoric the left-wing nuts are pushing. If Israel wanted to kill all the Palestinians, it would have happened a long time ago. Oct. 7th pissed them off, go figure.

That's like saying Nazi Germany didn't commit genocide against the Jews because some Jews survived. It's retarded on it's face.

No on is denying that Israelis should be pissed off about 10-7, but they should be pissed off that Bibi promoted Hamas at every opportunity so he wouldn't have to negotiate in good faith with Fatah and Abbas.

Ask yourself this question. How many Arabs live in Israel?

There is not Israel, there is only Palestine.

They would be killed. It is the Palestinians and other radical Muslim Arabs that want the Jewish state of Israel irradicated, not the Jewish people that want Arabs eradicated. Ayatollah Khamenei stated that "It is the mission of the Islamic Republic of Iran to erase Israel from the map of the region" and "[There is only one possible solution to unrest in the Middle East], namely the annihilation and destruction of the Zionist state." Iran is evil, but since you are evil, you are unable to see it. Their leadership needs to be completely destroyed.

Nope. Wanting foreign colonists off your land isn't "radical". If a bunch of Chinese took over your redneck state and established, "New Zhonggou" you'd be doing the same thing that the Arabs are doing when a bunch of Europeans showed up and took over their land.

 

[JoeB131]

Nobody attacked your family. I stated that you and your wife could attend a left-wing rally wearing vagina outfits, which means you would fit right in. How is that an attack?

Kudos for your wife. Coming from China, one would think she would be adept at seeing just where the Democratic policies lead. Most people in the US from Communist countries lean heavily Republican.

Why bring her up at all?

 

[SweetTea]

Why bring her up at all?

I just assumed your wife would attend rallies with you. If she wouldn't go, good for her.

 

[JoeB131]

I just assumed your wife would attend rallies with you. If she wouldn't go, good for her.

I don't attend rallies, why would she?

She's not interested in American politics because she doesn't understand them.

She also can't vote (not a citizen) and she has no interest in getting American Citizenship. I hope to change her mind about that, given the danger Trump represents to even legal immigrants.

Point being, there was no reason for you to bring her up in a thread I wasn't even participating in.

 

[SweetTea]

The only restriction should be "do the woman and her doctor think it's prudent"?

Completely incorrect, thus why we need reasonable laws and restrictions. We can't have radicals like you making laws like this.

Doing what is right is doing what is right.

It is not right to allow a man to compete against a woman. That is just stupid.

There is not Israel, there is only Palestine.

Weird, because I don't see Palestine on the current world map or any world map in history. I do see Israel.

Nope. Wanting foreign colonists off your land isn't "radical"

Land ownership changes. It has happened all throughout history. At some point, you either accept defeat or you are destined to live in turmoil. The thing is, it wasn't their land anyway and there never was a country of Palestine.

I hope to change her mind about that, given the danger Trump represents to even legal immigrants.

What danger is that? I hope she is smarter than you. No need to indoctrinate her. Too bad you live in such a group-think lefty area. I assume Illinois is like every other state in that if you get away from the morally deprived urban areas, it becomes more Republican and sensible.

Point being, there was no reason for you to bring her up in a thread I wasn't even participating in.

ok, sorry about that. I wasn't attempting to demean her in any way.

 

[Unkotare]

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I hope I’m considered a right wing radical….

YOU are just considered a loser.

 

[Unkotare]

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She's not interested in American politics because she doesn't understand them.

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Neither do you.

 

[Unkotare]

... the danger Trump represents to even legal immigrants.
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What has he ever said that suggests that?

 

[1srelluc]

?? He's not even a Dem

FJB enacted much for Sander's wish list.....Mostly by EO so they will be gone in January.

 

[JoeB131]

Completely incorrect, thus why we need reasonable laws and restrictions. We can't have radicals like you making laws like this.

We should have doctors making the laws... not religious fanatics trying to appease their imaginary sky friend.

It is not right to allow a man to compete against a woman. That is just stupid.

Naw, what's stupid is pretending anyone cares about women's sports, not the rare occasions the trans-girl competes.

Weird, because I don't see Palestine on the current world map or any world map in history. I do see Israel.

Weird, there was no Israel before 1947. How can that be?

Israel exists because the world felt sad about the Holocaust. It would be like if I gave away your house to a deserving black family because I felt bad about slavery.

Land ownership changes. It has happened all throughout history. At some point, you either accept defeat or you are destined to live in turmoil. The thing is, it wasn't their land anyway and there never was a country of Palestine.

Again, no sense of history. The Crusades lasted for 200 years before they chased the last Crusaders out of Palestine.

What danger is that? I hope she is smarter than you. No need to indoctrinate her. Too bad you live in such a group-think lefty area. I assume Illinois is like every other state in that if you get away from the morally deprived urban areas, it becomes more Republican and sensible.

Naw, you get into more rural areas, where it takes generations of inbreeding to get that stupid.

But to my point, if you don't think Steven Miller and his ilk want to throw out the legal immigrants, the asylum seekers, the DACA kids, or anyone else who isn't white enough, you are delusional.

From the Conservative CATO institute, no less.

President Trump Reduced Legal Immigration. He Did Not Reduce Illegal Immigration

The population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office.

www.cato.org

President Trump entered the White House with the goal of reducing legal immigration by 63 percent. Trump was wildly successful in reducing legal immigration. By November 2020, the Trump administration reduced the number of green cards issued to people abroad by at least 418,453 and the number of non-immigrant visas by at least 11,178,668 during his first term through November 2020. President Trump also entered the White House with the goal of eliminating illegal immigration but Trump oversaw a virtual collapse in interior immigration enforcement and the stabilization of the illegal immigrant population. Thus, Trump succeeded in reduce legal immigration and failed to eliminate illegal immigration.

ok, sorry about that. I wasn't attempting to demean her in any way.

Bullshit. That was exactly your intent.

 

[SweetTea]

We should have doctors making the laws... not religious fanatics trying to appease their imaginary sky friend.

Doctors shouldn't have a say unless it involves the mother's health.

Naw, what's stupid is pretending anyone cares about women's sports, not the rare occasions the trans-girl competes.

So let's just do away with women's sports. Yeah, ok.

It would be like if I gave away your house to a deserving black family because I felt bad about slavery.

Like reparations? Don't Democrats support that?

Again, no sense of history. The Crusades lasted for 200 years before they chased the last Crusaders out of Palestine.

Palestine is not a thing.

Bullshit. That was exactly your intent.

No, it actually wasn't, but you if you choose to take it that way then so be it.

 

[JoeB131]

Doctors shouldn't have a say unless it involves the mother's health.

That's fucked up, yo. What about if the fetus is going to be horribly deformed and won't live more than a few hours after birth? Spina Bifida, Brittle Bone Syndrome, etc.

So let's just do away with women's sports. Yeah, ok.

Or don't whine when legitimately transgender women want to play. Now, I'm for putting limits, such as you have to have lived as your identified gender for at least two years and started GAC.

Like reparations? Don't Democrats support that?

I don't. But that's not the point. There's a difference between the government paying reparations and taking your personal property for reparations.

Palestine is not a thing.

See, that sounds a bit Nazi.

No, it actually wasn't, but you if you choose to take it that way then so be it.

Again, no reason for you to bring it up other than an attack. Especially since you called my attention to this thread.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

No more so, than the moderates of the Republican party. There is no fundamental difference in "go along to get along", "ride the wave" mentality in the two parties. As, I have said here many times, the two parties suck. That is why I have been an Independent since the Nixon debacle, picking either who I thought would be best or at worst, who has potential to do the least damage.

Yeah you’ve been killing it. You voted for a dead guy and a brain dead woman with your last two presidential votes. Glad you have a method.