Trump doesn't know what (or who) Habeas Corus is!!!

[JoeB131]

Wrong she was a state employee when he was gov of Arkansas

But not one who was under the direct supervision of the governor.

She wasn't fired.
She suffered no retaliatory actions. (which was the requirement for Sexual Harassment Law at that time.)

And in the case of Trump, he IS better than most people. How many of us could have put together the Mid-East peace deal, for example?

What Mid East Peace Deal? The only thing they got was an agreement to stop the fighting. They've had agreements to stop the fighting for years. Eventually, they don't follow up on the parts that would bring peace.

Peace means that you agree on a permanent solution, and we are nowhere near that. Hamas isn't willing to accept Israel's right to exist, and Netanyahu isn't willing to support a two-state solution.

 

[JoeB131]

It is definitely mid ranged Dementia. Were it anybody but him, it would be sad, but it is him, and he is still ordering or going along, when he has no business, commanding anything, not troops, not ICE, not commanding Attorney General (as if she were his personal lawyer) to prosecute his political enemies, not commanding the US Navy to attack/bomb Venezuelan boats in international waters, no stop and search, without providing any proof of wrong doing, not even knowing the names of the people killed in the boats, not to mention a total misuse of the military on the high seas.

I agree entirely. Unfortunately, the Democrats kind of screwed their own credibility on this issue by covering for Biden's dementia as long as they did.

Of course, they could keep it hidden with Biden because Joe wasn't such a narcissist that he had to be on TV every day saying crazy stuff and then spending time every night tapping more crazy stuff on Truth Social.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I agree entirely. Unfortunately, the Democrats kind of screwed their own credibility on this issue by covering for Biden's dementia as long as they did.

Of course, they could keep it hidden with Biden because Joe wasn't such a narcissist that he had to be on TV every day saying crazy stuff and then spending time every night tapping more crazy stuff on Truth Social.

And the problem is the US has a two party system and this is now the norm.

Unless things change, the US is screwed.

 

[struth]

But not one who was under the direct supervision of the governor.

She wasn't fired.
She suffered no retaliatory actions. (which was the requirement for Sexual Harassment Law at that time.)



What Mid East Peace Deal? The only thing they got was an agreement to stop the fighting. They've had agreements to stop the fighting for years. Eventually, they don't follow up on the parts that would bring peace.

Peace means that you agree on a permanent solution, and we are nowhere near that. Hamas isn't willing to accept Israel's right to exist, and Netanyahu isn't willing to support a two-state solution.

She worked in the executive branch thus he was her boss.

Regardless though, even if she worked as a waitress in some diner, he had no right to sexually harass her

 

[Delldude]

It is definitely mid ranged Dementia. Were it anybody but him, it would be sad, but it is him, and he is still ordering or going along, when he has no business, commanding anything, not troops, not ICE, not commanding Attorney General (as if she were his personal lawyer) to prosecute his political enemies, not commanding the US Navy to attack/bomb Venezuelan boats in international waters, no stop and search, without providing any proof of wrong doing, not even knowing the names of the people killed in the boats, not to mention a total misuse of the military on the high seas.

You should be familiar with ROEs.

 

[Woodznutz]

Great, Trump is as thick as the masses.

I thought the whole point of having a president was to have someone in power who was BETTER than the masses, who could do BETTER than other people.

Trump certainly outdoes the masses regardless of his shortcomings.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You reap what you sow.

Exactly. Which is why Trump’s doing what he’s doing.

That is not to say I’m in favor of it. I’m not. I don’t want to see political retribution by Trump. But I didn’t want to see it by Democrats either. Yet here we are.

You can't complain the other side are doing to you, what you did to them.

And your view of the difference between Trump and Clinton's impeachments is laughable.

That you ignore that the two impeachments against Trump were frivolous and based on false accusations is what’s laughable.

If this means nothing to you in the larger context of the wisdom of political retribution then all you’re doing is bleating your hatred of Trump.

Trump is a criminal, everyone knows it. He's just smart enough to get other people to do the criminal activity for him most of the time.

Entirely irrelevant to the point of political retribution and in fact, to the point of the thread.

 

[White 6]

I agree entirely. Unfortunately, the Democrats kind of screwed their own credibility on this issue by covering for Biden's dementia as long as they did.

Of course, they could keep it hidden with Biden because Joe wasn't such a narcissist that he had to be on TV every day saying crazy stuff and then spending time every night tapping more crazy stuff on Truth Social.

So, because the Dems allowed the country to be run by an Alzheimer/Dementia victim, and almost ran him for office again, does that justify the Republicans, (who used to be the conservative, level headed party, (back the day) to allow, stupidly follow and even encourage this crooked, demented whore monger to remain in office, just to be close to the power that is ending the country we all live in, hoping they come out on top after he's gone?

 

[White 6]

You should be familiar with ROEs.

Return On Equity? Yes. What is your point?

 

[Delldude]

Return On Equity? Yes. What is your point?

Rules of engagement.

 

[White 6]

Rules of engagement.

Yes. Very. When did the Rules of Engagement for the Navy, dealing with civilian small craft in international waters, change to missiles lose, free to engage, when civillian small craft not engaging Nave vessels with fire, or even approaching them? Amazing no remains recovered, no drugs, no weapons, no names of who our navy just murdered on the high seas, without even stopping them to see what they were carrying, as we usually do in drug interdiction?
You would think they were ordered into illegal action by some crazed dementia patient, unfamiliar with Maritime Law, known and agreed to by Congress and all previous Presidents.

 

[Delldude]

Yes. Very. When did the Rules of Engagement for the Navy, dealing with civilian small craft in international waters, change to missiles lose, free to engage, when civillian small craft not engaging Nave vessels with fire, or even approaching them? Amazing no remains recovered, no drugs, no weapons, no names of who our navy just murdered on the high seas, without even stopping them to see what they were carrying, as we usually do in drug interdiction?
You would think they were ordered into illegal action by some crazed dementia patient, unfamiliar with Maritime Law, known and agreed to by Congress and all previous Presidents.

You're speculating. Both you and I have no knowledge of what went down.

I saw a vid on YouTube and it was an issue where we detected a Venezuelan Navy vessel at some pretty good range on a intercept heading to our Navy ship. They hailed the V ship many times as they continued to approach with no response......as distance decreased, defensive options were being readied as we had no feeling for their intentions. One of the things that stood out was the Captain's concern for documenting everything we did in contacting the V ship on their intentions. He specifically said they needed to document all their actions to support ROEs if they had to defend themselves.

So, based on that, I have a pretty good idea those clowns shot at whatever was shadowing the drug runners after being told to stop.

 

[cnm]

So, because the Dems allowed the country to be run by an Alzheimer/Dementia victim, and almost ran him for office again, does that justify the Republicans, (who used to be the conservative, level headed party, (back the day) to allow, stupidly follow and even encourage this crooked, demented whore monger to remain in office, just to be close to the power that is ending the country we all live in, hoping they come out on top after he's gone?

Ahh.


'Murica

 

[cnm]

So, based on that, I have a pretty good idea those clowns shot at whatever was shadowing the drug runners after being told to stop.

That's hilarious, I don't care who said it.

 

[Delldude]

That's hilarious, I don't care who said it.

You actually think that the Navy would violate international law because you think Trump said kill them now?

 

[White 6]

You're speculating. Both you and I have no knowledge of what went down.

I saw a vid on YouTube and it was an issue where we detected a Venezuelan Navy vessel at some pretty good range on a intercept heading to our Navy ship. They hailed the V ship many times as they continued to approach with no response......as distance decreased, defensive options were being readied as we had no feeling for their intentions. One of the things that stood out was the Captain's concern for documenting everything we did in contacting the V ship on their intentions. He specifically said they needed to document all their actions to support ROEs if they had to defend themselves.

So, based on that, I have a pretty good idea those clowns shot at whatever was shadowing the drug runners after being told to stop.

All this place is, is speculation and opninion. Sometimes it is backed by facts, when a question is actually asked, showing one of the parties to conversation are either unaware of the laws (US or international), treaties, or points of the constitution. Other than that, all opinion, informed or otherwise.

So, now, you are telling me the video of them blowing a 30 foot speed boat out of the water, was thought to be engaging the Venezuelan Navy?
You got to be shittin' me. Heck, the liar In Chief, hasn't even tried to sell that crap, with his White House Press bimbo.

 

[Orangecat]

What Mid East Peace Deal? The only thing they got was an agreement to stop the fighting.

Cognitive dissonance much, simplejack?

 

[Delldude]

So, now, you are telling me the video of them blowing a 30 foot speed boat out of the water, was thought to be engaging the Venezuelan Navy?

Not what I said. The example of ROEs was based on a naval response in a totally different issue.

Surprised you didn't differentiate.

 

[JoeB131]

And the problem is the US has a two party system and this is now the norm.

Unless things change, the US is screwed.

But we've had the Two-Party system pretty much since the beginning, with the Federalists being replaced by the Whigs, being replaced by the Republicans.

I don't see how a three or five party system would make things better. Just look at France right now.

 

[cnm]

But we've had the Two-Party system pretty much since the beginning, with the Federalists being replaced by the Whigs, being replaced by the Republicans.

I don't see how a three or five party system would make things better. Just look at France right now.

How many genocides is France directly enabling right now? I suggest the US' ability to do so is the consequence of a system captured by two parties.