Trump clarifies the "fine people on both sides" of the issue comment

[bodecea]

See this is the exact filth that is oozing out in this country and Trumps actions encourage people who think like Norm here. This is the problem with how Trump handled the situation.

What he’s trying to-tell you asshole is that the people you hate are American citizens who followed the law and got the proper permitting to march, the side you love, the disrupters, the violent ones did not!

The violent ones....View attachment 258026 View attachment 258027 View attachment 258028

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

So....let's ask this. You are hanging around and you find that those milling around near you are flying NAZI and con-federate flags. Do you still hang around there?

 

[bodecea]

I'm sure there weren't just neo-nazis.....but, of course....those people saw the flags being flown. They heard the chants. And (this is important now).....they stayed around. Would you?

Were store windows being broke? Cars set on fire? Were they acting like ANTIFA?
I need to know these things before I can formulate an opinion, Bode.

Again, my question.....would you continue to march with people who are displaying con-federate flags, NAZI flags, and other white-supremacist flags?

I see what you did there, Bode. Shame on you.
You first asked if I would "stay around". Now you have me "marching".

Explain the difference between the two when it comes to that Charlottesville weekend.

You explain yourself, Bode. You're not smart enough to connect the dots, like I said earlier, because they aren't there.
Then you infer something that was never said or intended to be said. Run along darling.

And now....we can see....you have lowered yourself to personal attacks. I guess you have failed in rational debate on this topic.

 

[bodecea]

I'm opposed to taking down Confederate Statues. Does that make me a Neo-Nazi or a white supremacist?

Do you believe cities and counties have the right to make their own decisions about whether to take down Con-federate statues or not?

Of course they do. And they should expect protests from those of us fine people who oppose the erasure and re-writing of history.

Do you believe the mass news media should deliberately mischaracterize and outright lie about what the President says in a news conference to further their own leftist agenda? Because that's exactly what's happened here.

How is it a lie when it is recorded video and audio for us to see over and over and over again?

 

[Meister]

What he’s trying to-tell you asshole is that the people you hate are American citizens who followed the law and got the proper permitting to march, the side you love, the disrupters, the violent ones did not!

The violent ones....View attachment 258026 View attachment 258027 View attachment 258028

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

So....let's ask this. You are hanging around and you find that those milling around near you are flying NAZI and con-federate flags. Do you still hang around there?

Let me answer the questions you can't bring yourself to ask, Bode. You are so obtuse.
I am not and don't condone nazis. I don't own or wave a confederate flag and have never done neither.
Now you can't twist anything I say into a lie and your premise has been resolved.

 

[forkup]

The violent ones....View attachment 258026 View attachment 258027 View attachment 258028

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

And there may have been others there like the media and others watching those two sides. But when talking about those two sides specifically I personally don't think good people join the side of Nazis and the Klan.

I can't argue with what you personally think, SandSquid. But you may be right...or you may be wrong with that assumption.
You and I don't know. But, rest assured the Trump wasn't calling those good people.

Meister, are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that Trump has not lost any support from "those people", precisely because Trump is so ambiguous when it comes to condemning "those people". It was the case during the campaign and it's still the case now. Trump condemns "those people" only when there's a proverbial gun to his head." Those people" consider Trump as someone who shares their ideology.

 

[bodecea]

What he’s trying to-tell you asshole is that the people you hate are American citizens who followed the law and got the proper permitting to march, the side you love, the disrupters, the violent ones did not!

The violent ones....View attachment 258026 View attachment 258027 View attachment 258028

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

You are right. I personally don't think supporters of those Nazi and Klan groups are good people myself. But to each their own

I also can safely say that I would hate to be found anywhere NEAR people flying NAZI or con-federate flags at an event I was participating in. I'd walk away from them and their side ASAP. But each to their own.

 

[Meister]

Were store windows being broke? Cars set on fire? Were they acting like ANTIFA?
I need to know these things before I can formulate an opinion, Bode.

Again, my question.....would you continue to march with people who are displaying con-federate flags, NAZI flags, and other white-supremacist flags?

I see what you did there, Bode. Shame on you.
You first asked if I would "stay around". Now you have me "marching".

Explain the difference between the two when it comes to that Charlottesville weekend.

You explain yourself, Bode. You're not smart enough to connect the dots, like I said earlier, because they aren't there.
Then you infer something that was never said or intended to be said. Run along darling.

And now....we can see....you have lowered yourself to personal attacks. I guess you have failed in rational debate on this topic.

There was no debate, you were trying to infer something that wasn't there. Hell you had me hanging around to marching
with nazis and the klan. You're no good at what your trying to do

 

[bodecea]

The violent ones....View attachment 258026 View attachment 258027 View attachment 258028

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

So....let's ask this. You are hanging around and you find that those milling around near you are flying NAZI and con-federate flags. Do you still hang around there?

Let me answer the questions you can't bring yourself to ask, Bode. You are so obtuse.
I am not and don't condone nazis. I don't own or wave a confederate flag and have never done neither.
Now you can't twist anything I say into a lie and your premise has been resolved.

So...if you find yourself at a protest near/on the same side of barriers with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags you would do.................what exactly?

 

[bodecea]

Again, my question.....would you continue to march with people who are displaying con-federate flags, NAZI flags, and other white-supremacist flags?

I see what you did there, Bode. Shame on you.
You first asked if I would "stay around". Now you have me "marching".

Explain the difference between the two when it comes to that Charlottesville weekend.

You explain yourself, Bode. You're not smart enough to connect the dots, like I said earlier, because they aren't there.
Then you infer something that was never said or intended to be said. Run along darling.

And now....we can see....you have lowered yourself to personal attacks. I guess you have failed in rational debate on this topic.

There was no debate, you were trying to infer something that wasn't there. Hell you had me hanging around to marching
with nazis and the klan. You're no good at what your trying to do

So you don't believe in rational debate on topics people have differing beliefs on. Ok.

 

[impuretrash]

And? You must be thinking that the only people there on one side was the neo-nazis? Think again, Skippy.

And? You must be thinking that the only people there on one side was the neo-nazis? Think again, Skippy.

I'm sure there weren't just neo-nazis.....but, of course....those people saw the flags being flown. They heard the chants. And (this is important now).....they stayed around. Would you?

Well let's see who put it on:

Jason Kessler was the local person who got together with the daily stormer, The right stuff, the national policy institute, the nationalist front, the traditionalist workers party, identity evropa, vanguard America, the national socialist movement, and a couple of KKK groups to put on the rally.

It was their leaders who were set up as headliners. Their leaders who talked about working with the police in the podcasts to set it up, their websites who promoted it. this was well covered ahead of the rally of who was putting this together.

Some people and groups decided that this was something that they wanted to associate themselves with and others did not

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How odd that there is NOTHING on that flyer about con-federate statues. Isn't that the oddest thing?

It's almost as odd as how most confederate rallies have speakers who are historians talking about the Confederacy, and this one had Klan leaders and Nazis instead as their speakers.

Besides the FACT that anyone who really objected to the removal of the con-federate statue should have addressed their complaints to the city government who voted to remove the statue.

They should have complained to the far-left city government who had the racist Wes Bellamy as vice-mayor?

Why are communist radicals allowed to protest but nobody else?

 

[Meister]

An ANTIFA type of event...okay.
Well, to be honest...if I was packing that day, I'd probably hang around.
Did you stay, or did you go?

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

And there may have been others there like the media and others watching those two sides. But when talking about those two sides specifically I personally don't think good people join the side of Nazis and the Klan.

I can't argue with what you personally think, SandSquid. But you may be right...or you may be wrong with that assumption.
You and I don't know. But, rest assured the Trump wasn't calling those good people.

Meister, are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that Trump has not lost any support from "those people", precisely because Trump is so ambiguous when it comes to condemning "those people". It was the case during the campaign and it's still the case now. Trump condemns "those people" only when there's a proverbial gun to his head." Those people" consider Trump as someone who shares their ideology.

Well, when you had the constant drum beat from the media saying it was so, those people were stupid enough to
think he actually was. He has done enough in his career to prove otherwise. Also, he was never called a racist until he
threw his hat in the ring.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

The white nationalists or whatever had all the permits necessary, there for sure were fine people among them. Possibly most of them even.

As for antifa who attacked a peaceful protest, I don't see why this is even legal or fine for that matter.

See this is the exact filth that is oozing out in this country and Trumps actions encourage people who think like Norm here. This is the problem with how Trump handled the situation.

What he’s trying to-tell you asshole is that the people you hate are American citizens who followed the law and got the proper permitting to march, the side you love, the disrupters, the violent ones did not!

Well, that's simply not true.

 

[boedicca]

1. The fake news MSM continually characterizes Trump's comment as "fine people" referring to both the "white supremacists and Neo-nazis" as well as the protesters.
2. Trump said "see the entire tape" and you will see that he actually said that the "fine people" was referring to was both debate sides over the removal of the Robert E. Lee statue. I saw the entire tape and Trump did say that he condemns Neo-nazis and white supremacists. He further clarified that Robert E. Lee was one of the greatest generals the US ever produced, and that his strategies are still studied and useful today.
3. Trump Didn't Call Neo-Nazis 'Fine People.' Here's Proof. | RealClearPolitics

The issue was the weak condemnation of the Nazis and pivot to trying to attack the ANTIFA protestors. Yes, good people on both sides was referring to the monument debate. When you look at how Trump goes after his enemies and then how he “went after” Nazis in this situation, where a women was killed, you see a stark difference. This is the major source of issue and concern amongst his opposers. Do you understand that?

Get back to us after the Prog-Dem leaders denounce ANTIFA and their ilk.


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[Meister]

I see what you did there, Bode. Shame on you.
You first asked if I would "stay around". Now you have me "marching".

Explain the difference between the two when it comes to that Charlottesville weekend.

You explain yourself, Bode. You're not smart enough to connect the dots, like I said earlier, because they aren't there.
Then you infer something that was never said or intended to be said. Run along darling.

And now....we can see....you have lowered yourself to personal attacks. I guess you have failed in rational debate on this topic.

There was no debate, you were trying to infer something that wasn't there. Hell you had me hanging around to marching
with nazis and the klan. You're no good at what your trying to do

So you don't believe in rational debate on topics people have differing beliefs on. Ok.

When you are moving goalposts and the facts to develop a preconceived notion of yours...that's not a rational debate.
That is setting up someone with bait.

 

[impuretrash]

I'm opposed to taking down Confederate Statues. Does that make me a Neo-Nazi or a white supremacist?

Do you believe cities and counties have the right to make their own decisions about whether to take down Con-federate statues or not?

Of course they do. And they should expect protests from those of us fine people who oppose the erasure and re-writing of history.

Do you believe the mass news media should deliberately mischaracterize and outright lie about what the President says in a news conference to further their own leftist agenda? Because that's exactly what's happened here.

How is it a lie when it is recorded video and audio for us to see over and over and over again?

There's hours and hours of video from that day depicting the communists starting shit which the media decides not to air. Most of the footage has been deleted from youtube.

There would have been NO violence if the (far left) local city administration had kept the groups separate instead of setting up conflict.

 

[forkup]

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

And there may have been others there like the media and others watching those two sides. But when talking about those two sides specifically I personally don't think good people join the side of Nazis and the Klan.

I can't argue with what you personally think, SandSquid. But you may be right...or you may be wrong with that assumption.
You and I don't know. But, rest assured the Trump wasn't calling those good people.

Meister, are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that Trump has not lost any support from "those people", precisely because Trump is so ambiguous when it comes to condemning "those people". It was the case during the campaign and it's still the case now. Trump condemns "those people" only when there's a proverbial gun to his head." Those people" consider Trump as someone who shares their ideology.

Well, when you had the constant drum beat from the media saying it was so, those people were stupid enough to
think he actually was. He has done enough in his career to prove otherwise. Also, he was never called a racist until he
threw his hat in the ring.

If your position on race is sufficiently unclear that neo-nazi's consider you an ally I contend you are either the worst communicator in the world, are unclear about it on purpose, or you are in fact a racist. Whatever it is you should not be president. What has he done to prove otherwise by the way. Just out of curiosity.

 

[bodecea]

I'm sure there weren't just neo-nazis.....but, of course....those people saw the flags being flown. They heard the chants. And (this is important now).....they stayed around. Would you?

Well let's see who put it on:

Jason Kessler was the local person who got together with the daily stormer, The right stuff, the national policy institute, the nationalist front, the traditionalist workers party, identity evropa, vanguard America, the national socialist movement, and a couple of KKK groups to put on the rally.

It was their leaders who were set up as headliners. Their leaders who talked about working with the police in the podcasts to set it up, their websites who promoted it. this was well covered ahead of the rally of who was putting this together.

Some people and groups decided that this was something that they wanted to associate themselves with and others did not

View attachment 258029

How odd that there is NOTHING on that flyer about con-federate statues. Isn't that the oddest thing?

It's almost as odd as how most confederate rallies have speakers who are historians talking about the Confederacy, and this one had Klan leaders and Nazis instead as their speakers.

Besides the FACT that anyone who really objected to the removal of the con-federate statue should have addressed their complaints to the city government who voted to remove the statue.

They should have complained to the far-left city government who had the racist Wes Bellamy as vice-mayor?

Why are communist radicals allowed to protest but nobody else?

Ah....so you are not a fan of an elected city government having the say on what they do with city property?

 

[Meister]

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

And there may have been others there like the media and others watching those two sides. But when talking about those two sides specifically I personally don't think good people join the side of Nazis and the Klan.

I can't argue with what you personally think, SandSquid. But you may be right...or you may be wrong with that assumption.
You and I don't know. But, rest assured the Trump wasn't calling those good people.

Meister, are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that Trump has not lost any support from "those people", precisely because Trump is so ambiguous when it comes to condemning "those people". It was the case during the campaign and it's still the case now. Trump condemns "those people" only when there's a proverbial gun to his head." Those people" consider Trump as someone who shares their ideology.

Well, when you had the constant drum beat from the media saying it was so, those people were stupid enough to
think he actually was. He has done enough in his career to prove otherwise. Also, he was never called a racist until he
threw his hat in the ring.

If your position on race is sufficiently unclear that neo-nazi's consider you an ally I contend you are either the worst communicator in the world, are unclear about it on purpose, or you are in fact a racist. Whatever it is you should not be president. What has he done to prove otherwise by the way. Just out of curiosity.

I kinda had respect for you right up to your last post.
Remember one thing before I end this conversation with you, forklift.
A lie can travel half way around the world before the truth has it's boots on.
The media is a powerful weapon.

 

[beautress]

In Charlottesville, there was a traffic accident that was obviously precipitated by a thug hitting a motorist's vehicle as it was traveling down a steep slope towards an intersection that by happenstance got flooded by a mob that stopped traffic just as a thug hit the young inexperienced motorist's car.

Trump publicly called the young inexperienced motorist involved in the traffic accident a "murderer".

Kinda hard to get a fair trial when the MSM and even the president jump to conclusions and call you a murderer before your trial.

Did his victim get a fair trial? Think of that for a few minutes before answering. lol

 

[bodecea]

So...you WOULD hang around with people flying NAZI and con-federate flags......OK. Thanks for your answer.

There were a lot of people there who weren't part of those groups hanging around. You need to ask if I'm a nazi or flying a confederate flag.
You take leaps and bounds trying to connect dots that just isn't there and twist the truth to become a lie with what you're inferring, doll.

And there may have been others there like the media and others watching those two sides. But when talking about those two sides specifically I personally don't think good people join the side of Nazis and the Klan.

I can't argue with what you personally think, SandSquid. But you may be right...or you may be wrong with that assumption.
You and I don't know. But, rest assured the Trump wasn't calling those good people.

Meister, are you sure about that? I'm pretty sure that Trump has not lost any support from "those people", precisely because Trump is so ambiguous when it comes to condemning "those people". It was the case during the campaign and it's still the case now. Trump condemns "those people" only when there's a proverbial gun to his head." Those people" consider Trump as someone who shares their ideology.

Well, when you had the constant drum beat from the media saying it was so, those people were stupid enough to
think he actually was. He has done enough in his career to prove otherwise. Also, he was never called a racist until he
threw his hat in the ring.

Well, that's simply not true. Donald Trump’s long history of racism, from the 1970s to 2019