Trump Cant Designate Antifa a Terrorist Group, as Explained by a Doofus

Can Trump0 Designate ANTIFA a terrorist group?

  • No. that is UnAmerican

    Votes: 2 16.7%
  • Yes, because ANTIFA tries to TERRORIZE American citizens

    Votes: 9 75.0%
  • What time was the game?

    Votes: 1 8.3%

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Well lets start:
While Domestic Terrorism does exist only Foreign Terror Organisations can go on the Terror list...

But more importantly, ANTIFA are not an organisation. They have no leader or membership... It is a movement with methods... This means to ban them is to ban free speech... You can ban anymore than a guys says I want my gun for when the Government takeover...

The whole idea is just plainly stupid... This would take 5 mins in court...
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Hey dummy. Just because its a term doesnt mean its legal to put american citizens on some non official list.
 

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This guy is so full of shyte, it is hard to decide where to start.



Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Actually, the nitwit that wrote the article is wrong on another count...

Antifa is an INTERNATIONAL group, with branches in a lot of countries...

Just like ISIS (which also has operatives in this country)!!!
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Actually, the nitwit that wrote the article is wrong on another count...

Antifa is an INTERNATIONAL group, with branches in a lot of countries...

Just like ISIS (which also has operatives in this country)!!!
Who told you Antifa was international?
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Hey dummy. Just because its a term doesnt mean its legal to put american citizens on some non official list.
Hey lazy moron why don't you read the FBI website?

News
Terrorism news and press releases.

LINK
 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Hey dummy. Just because its a term doesnt mean its legal to put american citizens on some non official list.
Hey lazy moron why don't you read the FBI website?

News
Terrorism news and press releases.

LINK
I did. Show me where the domestic terrorism list is.
 

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Except for this little problem.

The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, President Donald Trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president’s tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

 

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Activists informally associated with antifa—which is short for "antifascist"—were responsible for some of the violence over the weekend. They have also committed crimes during previous protests: Trump's inauguration in D.C., the Portland demonstrations against the Proud Boys, and many others. This is consistent with antifa's ideology, which holds (generally speaking) that harsh tactics are necessary to combat the far right and does not believe in extending free speech to people who oppose its goals. (My book Panic Attack: Young Radicals in the Age of Trump includes an in-depth look at antifa's history, tactics, and goals.)
So antifa is well worth criticizing. But Trump's declaration is flawed in a number of ways.
For one thing, it's not actually possible for the president to label antifa a domestic terrorist group: There is no such designation. The U.S. State Department maintains a list of known terrorist organizations, but it includes only foreign groups—mostly radical Islamists....
For another thing, giving the government greater license to consider all antifa activities terroristic in nature would certainly result in civil liberties violations. The authorities would end up harassing and surveilling Americans who have professed sympathy for the far left but are not engaged in anything approaching criminal activity.

So the FBI does not have a list of terrorism groups? Bullshit, of course they do, formally or informally, and they act on it all the time.
The article is wrong about claiming there are NO domestic terror individual or groups.

The FBI own website thinks there are plenty of domestic terrorism examples:

Terrorism

Excerpt:

Domestic terrorism: Violent, criminal acts committed by individuals and/or groups to further ideological goals stemming from domestic influences, such as those of a political, religious, social, racial, or environmental nature.

LINK
Well lets start:
While Domestic Terrorism does exist only Foreign Terror Organisations can go on the Terror list...

But more importantly, ANTIFA are not an organisation. They have no leader or membership... It is a movement with methods... This means to ban them is to ban free speech... You can ban anymore than a guys says I want my gun for when the Government takeover...

The whole idea is just plainly stupid... This would take 5 mins in court...
ANTIFA has no leadership? Is that what you're claiming? Taking action against them is banning free speech? It isn't their "speech" that's the issue...it's their planned violent acts that are the problem...planned violent acts that require leadership and members!
 
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ANTIFA has no leadership? Is that what you're claiming? Taking action against them is banning free speech? It isn't their "speech" that's the issue...it's their planned violent acts that are the problem...planned violent acts that require leadership and members!
ANTIFA m ost certainly does have leadership and organization, but the leadership is clandestine.

But no worries, the US IC has been tracking them for a couple of years now and they will get what they have coming and a little more so.
 

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so by their own metric, the FBI are a terrorist organization?

man, and our tax $$$'s supports them too......~S~
 

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