Trump Can End Income Taxes with Taxpayer Pardons

[egp320i]

If we can print W-2's, we can print pardons for everyone. Free the American taxpayers!!

hmm so you get a W-2 in the mail, sign it and you don't pay taxes and we are broke, have no military, services, can't pay SS

not sure that is a great idea at all, people don't work for free in DC

 

[DonGlock26]

Just telling you what they told Trump when he looks at Ivanka.

Your fantasy is an unusual one. I'll give you that.

 

[DonGlock26]

hmm so you get a W-2 in the mail, sign it and you don't pay taxes and we are broke, have no military, services, can't pay SS

not sure that is a great idea at all, people don't work for free in DC

What did we do before an income tax?

 

[egp320i]

What did we do before an income tax?

grok says other taxes

Before the introduction of the federal income tax in the United States, which was formalized with the passage of the 16th Amendment in 1913, the U.S. government relied on a variety of other revenue sources to finance its operations:

1. Tariffs and Customs Duties: These were one of the primary sources of federal revenue. Tariffs are taxes imposed on imported goods, which not only raised funds but also protected domestic industries by making foreign goods more expensive.
2. Excise Taxes: These are taxes levied on specific goods produced within the country, like alcohol, tobacco, and later gasoline. Excise taxes were significant, especially post-Civil War, for funding government activities.
3. Land Sales: The sale of public lands, particularly during the westward expansion, provided considerable income. The government sold or leased land for settlement, agriculture, mining, and other uses.
4. Sale of Bonds and Loans: The U.S. government often issued bonds to finance large expenditures, particularly during wars. For example, during the War of 1812 and the Civil War, bonds were issued to cover costs.
5. Stamp Taxes: During certain periods, particularly during the Civil War, stamp taxes were used where people had to purchase stamps for legal documents, newspapers, and even playing cards.
6. Poll Taxes: These were taxes levied on individuals, often as a condition of voting, though they were more commonly used at state and local levels rather than federal.
7. Property Taxes: While more commonly associated with state and local governments, some federal taxes were levied on property, especially in the early days of the republic.
8. Inheritance Taxes: Before the modern estate tax, there were various forms of inheritance taxes that contributed to federal coffers.
9. Miscellaneous Income: This included revenue from postal services, fines, fees for various federal services, and income from public works like the Erie Canal in the 19th century.

 

[DonGlock26]

grok says other taxes

Before the introduction of the federal income tax in the United States, which was formalized with the passage of the 16th Amendment in 1913, the U.S. government relied on a variety of other revenue sources to finance its operations:

1. Tariffs and Customs Duties: These were one of the primary sources of federal revenue. Tariffs are taxes imposed on imported goods, which not only raised funds but also protected domestic industries by making foreign goods more expensive.
2. Excise Taxes: These are taxes levied on specific goods produced within the country, like alcohol, tobacco, and later gasoline. Excise taxes were significant, especially post-Civil War, for funding government activities.
3. Land Sales: The sale of public lands, particularly during the westward expansion, provided considerable income. The government sold or leased land for settlement, agriculture, mining, and other uses.
4. Sale of Bonds and Loans: The U.S. government often issued bonds to finance large expenditures, particularly during wars. For example, during the War of 1812 and the Civil War, bonds were issued to cover costs.
5. Stamp Taxes: During certain periods, particularly during the Civil War, stamp taxes were used where people had to purchase stamps for legal documents, newspapers, and even playing cards.
6. Poll Taxes: These were taxes levied on individuals, often as a condition of voting, though they were more commonly used at state and local levels rather than federal.
7. Property Taxes: While more commonly associated with state and local governments, some federal taxes were levied on property, especially in the early days of the republic.
8. Inheritance Taxes: Before the modern estate tax, there were various forms of inheritance taxes that contributed to federal coffers.
9. Miscellaneous Income: This included revenue from postal services, fines, fees for various federal services, and income from public works like the Erie Canal in the 19th century.

There you go. As I mentioned, there are tariffs and sales taxes.

 

[Moonglow]

Your fantasy is an unusual one. I'll give you that.

Trump said it himself.

 

[Moonglow]

grok says other taxes

Before the introduction of the federal income tax in the United States, which was formalized with the passage of the 16th Amendment in 1913, the U.S. government relied on a variety of other revenue sources to finance its operations:

1. Tariffs and Customs Duties: These were one of the primary sources of federal revenue. Tariffs are taxes imposed on imported goods, which not only raised funds but also protected domestic industries by making foreign goods more expensive.
2. Excise Taxes: These are taxes levied on specific goods produced within the country, like alcohol, tobacco, and later gasoline. Excise taxes were significant, especially post-Civil War, for funding government activities.
3. Land Sales: The sale of public lands, particularly during the westward expansion, provided considerable income. The government sold or leased land for settlement, agriculture, mining, and other uses.
4. Sale of Bonds and Loans: The U.S. government often issued bonds to finance large expenditures, particularly during wars. For example, during the War of 1812 and the Civil War, bonds were issued to cover costs.
5. Stamp Taxes: During certain periods, particularly during the Civil War, stamp taxes were used where people had to purchase stamps for legal documents, newspapers, and even playing cards.
6. Poll Taxes: These were taxes levied on individuals, often as a condition of voting, though they were more commonly used at state and local levels rather than federal.
7. Property Taxes: While more commonly associated with state and local governments, some federal taxes were levied on property, especially in the early days of the republic.
8. Inheritance Taxes: Before the modern estate tax, there were various forms of inheritance taxes that contributed to federal coffers.
9. Miscellaneous Income: This included revenue from postal services, fines, fees for various federal services, and income from public works like the Erie Canal in the 19th century.

Fessenden's first attempt to fund the war, the Revenue Act of 1861, fell far short of its goals. Hastily created during a special session, the bill taxed imports, provided for a direct land tax, and imposed a tax of 3% on individual incomes over $800

 

[egp320i]

Fessenden's first attempt to fund the war, the Revenue Act of 1861, fell far short of its goals. Hastily created during a special session, the bill taxed imports, provided for a direct land tax, and imposed a tax of 3% on individual incomes over $800

As the USA grew and we became more powerful it was apparent these nickle and dime taxes were not going to cut it.
yes the people were richer but that was not going to help us with wars so some revenue stream was going to be needed

imagine the daily worker quitting his job and joining the military to go fight the nazi in europe? nah, don't see that happening

 

[DonGlock26]

As the USA grew and we became more powerful it was apparent these nickle and dime taxes were not going to cut it.
yes the people were richer but that was not going to help us with wars so some revenue stream was going to be needed

So less taxes, less wars? Hmmm….

 

[egp320i]

So less taxes, less wars? Hmmm….

not exactly, it depends on who starts it
yes we do like to stick our nose into problems we should not but just protect our own interests

problem is the world now looks at us as a savior, they cry and we come to help

 

[Thinker101]

Show us proof who doesn't..

hunter biden meme - Bing

 

[DonGlock26]

not exactly, it depends on who starts it
yes we do like to stick our nose into problems we should not but just protect our own interests

problem is the world now looks at us as a savior, they cry and we come to help

Trump wants NATO to pay for their own defense. If you wanted to cut a personal donation check to the US Treasury, you always can do that.

 

[egp320i]

Trump wants NATO to pay for their own defense. If you wanted to cut a personal donation check to the US Treasury, you always can do that.

that is a bad thing? it's their area of the world so why not, it's their ass on the line if russia invades
yes we will likely come to their aid if things get out of control like usual

I am not going to give the government anything more than my taxes which is plenty enough