Trump campaign DID collude with Russia

[Redfish]

What the F do you think the Junior meeting was about? They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.

Was there information passed during that meeting? Did this begin a system of criminal collaboration?

Mueller will find out. Please don't say there was NO COLLUSION. There clearly was....

Interesting. Therefore, do you have the intellectual honesty to admit the Democrats colluded with Russia, considering said collusion isn't debatable? What should we do about it?

It's that Junior Master Deflector Kit at work once again. It's a reflex that they can't control because they've been so indoctrinated. Amazing, really.

please tell us what crime Trump has committed, give specifics, and cite the statute that was violated. If you cant do that ------------------------STFU

 

[Redfish]

Trump’s Russian Laundromat

Trump’s Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.
By CRAIG UNGER
July 13, 2017

".....“They saved his bacon,” says Kenneth McCallion, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Reagan administration who investigated ties between organized crime and Trump’s developments in the 1980s.

It’s entirely possible that Trump was never more than a convenient patsy for Russian oligarchs and mobsters, with his casinos and condos providing easy pass-throughs for their illicit riches.

At the very least, with his constant need for new infusions of cash and his well-documented troubles with creditors, Trump made an easy “mark” for anyone looking to launder money. But whatever his knowledge about the source of his wealth, the public record makes clear that Trump built his business empire in no small part with a lot of dirty money from a lot of dirty Russians—including the dirtiest and most feared of them all."..."​

`

I couldn't have said it any better. And I'll only add to that statement that the Prince son-in-law Kushner is following an identical path. Seeking financing for failing real estate deals from around the globe. Enemies, Sanctioned banks, Oligs, Saudis, Qatar and anywhere else he can find it so that 666 fifth ave doesn't drag him down. He'll be found doing the same stuff as Trump along with tossing poor folks out onto the street to clear the way for profit. I hope Mueller looks into his sale of rent-controlled apartment buildings under false pretenses and lying to cover his tracks. He's learned well from the master of disaster. But the party will soon be over.

geez dude, do you live under Behar's fat ass? What has filled you with so much hate? Seriously.

 

[Redfish]

my comment was aimed at dem/libs in general.

You mentioned ONE person in your post. Is English not your first language? If not, my apologies for calling out your poor grasp of it.

the word "you" can be singular or plural. I think its you who has a nugatory grasp of the English language.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Indictments such as possible Tax evasion, or another for simply believing he lied while under Mueller’s investigation DOES NOT involve Russia or the Kremlin.


Testing this “supposed” liberal knowledge on this thread with links to back up your story :

1) Show me one indictment that mentions the Kremlin or Putin involving someone from the Trump campaign.

2) Show me (to date) specific financial passing and acceptance of deals between Kremlin and Trump’s inner circle involving the election during his campaign against Hillary.

I have serious doubt these progressives can prove (links) anything but their hatred for Trump. Prove me wrong... I dare you.

We'll talk again after Mueller completes his inquiry. That is if he's allowed to finish. Trump is tweeting to threaten firing him. He desperately wants to shut down that investigation because he fears what he will find. Collusion, money laundering, using sanctioned Russian banks to fund projects, possible tax evasion issues etc. But it sure looks like we're headed for a huge fight over the Mueller affair. Trump is acting like a guilty man who is panicked over what he'll find. Stay tuned.

Russian interfering with a foreign government is different from a collusion between Trump working with Russia to effect their election in his favor.

Let’s look at one crystal clear fact, feel free to provide proof that states otherwise.

The Democrats are claiming Trump won by colluding with Russian leaders (meaning Trumps efforts are tied directly to Kremlin or Putin). That’s a very serious allegation, that CNN .. MSNBC .. CBS .. Washington Post .. New York Times .. every left leaning media outlet, were only to happy to take as FACT without evidence.

This alleged allegation came from Fusion GPS paid by the Democrat party. Where did they go to provide evidence for a FISA warrant .. The CIA (who’s job is in government espionage with familiarity, resources, and tools in authenticating and confirming which foreign agents can be identified for further inquiry), or even the NSA ( responsible for global monitoring, collection, and processing of information and data for foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes ) ?

No. In determining a foreign government interfered into a government election in electing a candidate from a certain political party, the gathering of this information to obtain a FISA warrant ( for approving tapped government surveillance on an American individual - challenging someone’s clearly spelled out 4th Amendment rights under the Constitution ) the Democrats relied HEAVILY on a paid RETIRED OPERATIVE, a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AGENT - from Great Britain.


Take the time to swallow that fact a bit.

 

[JimH52]

Trump campaign DID collude with Russia
They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.
Was there information passed during that meeting?

Have any of you nutjobs established yet that:
A). There is nothing criminal about collusion? Every administration does it.
B). It's not as if Hillary didn't seek dirt on Trump?
C). What makes it a crime is when money changes hands and so far that only occurred AFAIK when the DNC hired Steele.

That is true. But there is Obstruction of Justice, Money laundering, and other federal crimes
Odd how cons always bring up a dem. But you missed an important point, me boy. Money changed hands when the Republican national committee first hired Steele. You seem to simply ignore the fact that the dossier was started and initial work on it was done for repubs.

There was more links and proof with Benghazi and Lois Lerner investigations. What was the outcome?

Accusations are not poof, me poor con. Benghazi was investigated over and over and over. So, no crimes were made, and no charges resulted. Same with Lois Lerner. Sorry you missed it. So, you need to find what the difference is between investigations and charges, me poor ignorant con. Both were investigated, And in both cases no charges were brought. Get your facts straight.

As long as Whiterwater investigation took....nothing....Clinton was impeached over lying about sex....the orange one's fate may be for a similar lie.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

Give it time....give it time....

 

[JimH52]

Trump campaign DID collude with Russia
They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.
Was there information passed during that meeting?

Have any of you nutjobs established yet that:
A). There is nothing criminal about collusion? Every administration does it.
B). It's not as if Hillary didn't seek dirt on Trump?
C). What makes it a crime is when money changes hands and so far that only occurred AFAIK when the DNC hired Steele.

That is true. But there is Obstruction of Justice, Money laundering, and other federal crimes
Odd how cons always bring up a dem. But you missed an important point, me boy. Money changed hands when the Republican national committee first hired Steele. You seem to simply ignore the fact that the dossier was started and initial work on it was done for repubs.

There was more links and proof with Benghazi and Lois Lerner investigations. What was the outcome?

Accusations are not poof, me poor con. Benghazi was investigated over and over and over. So, no crimes were made, and no charges resulted. Same with Lois Lerner. Sorry you missed it. So, you need to find what the difference is between investigations and charges, me poor ignorant con. Both were investigated, And in both cases no charges were brought. Get your facts straight.

As long as Whiterwater investigation took....nothing....Clinton was impeached over lying about sex....the orange one's fate may be for a similar lie.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

It is nice you are defending the King of Liars. He makes Satan look saintly....

 

[JimH52]

Indictments such as possible Tax evasion, or another for simply believing he lied while under Mueller’s investigation DOES NOT involve Russia or the Kremlin.


Testing this “supposed” liberal knowledge on this thread with links to back up your story :

1) Show me one indictment that mentions the Kremlin or Putin involving someone from the Trump campaign.

2) Show me (to date) specific financial passing and acceptance of deals between Kremlin and Trump’s inner circle involving the election during his campaign against Hillary.

I have serious doubt these progressives can prove (links) anything but their hatred for Trump. Prove me wrong... I dare you.

We'll talk again after Mueller completes his inquiry. That is if he's allowed to finish. Trump is tweeting to threaten firing him. He desperately wants to shut down that investigation because he fears what he will find. Collusion, money laundering, using sanctioned Russian banks to fund projects, possible tax evasion issues etc. But it sure looks like we're headed for a huge fight over the Mueller affair. Trump is acting like a guilty man who is panicked over what he'll find. Stay tuned.

Russian interfering with a foreign government is different from a collusion between Trump working with Russia to effect their election in his favor.

Let’s look at one crystal clear fact, feel free to provide proof that states otherwise.

The Democrats are claiming Trump won by colluding with Russian leaders (meaning Trumps efforts are tied directly to Kremlin or Putin). That’s a very serious allegation, that CNN .. MSNBC .. CBS .. Washington Post .. New York Times .. every left leaning media outlet, were only to happy to take as FACT without evidence.

This alleged allegation came from Fusion GPS paid by the Democrat party. Where did they go to provide evidence for a FISA warrant .. The CIA (who’s job is in government espionage with familiarity, resources, and tools in authenticating and confirming which foreign agents can be identified for further inquiry), or even the NSA ( responsible for global monitoring, collection, and processing of information and data for foreign intelligence and counterintelligence purposes ) ?

No. In determining a foreign government interfered into a government election in electing a candidate from a certain political party, the gathering of this information to obtain a FISA warrant ( for approving tapped government surveillance on an American individual - challenging someone’s clearly spelled out 4th Amendment rights under the Constitution ) the Democrats relied HEAVILY on a paid RETIRED OPERATIVE, a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT AGENT - from Great Britain.


Take the time to swallow that fact a bit.

Are you really this shallow or are you trying to impress the low IQ trump supporters? Should I draw pictures?

 

[Wickerthing]

Trump campaign DID collude with Russia
They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.
Was there information passed during that meeting?

Have any of you nutjobs established yet that:
A). There is nothing criminal about collusion? Every administration does it.
B). It's not as if Hillary didn't seek dirt on Trump?
C). What makes it a crime is when money changes hands and so far that only occurred AFAIK when the DNC hired Steele.

That is true. But there is Obstruction of Justice, Money laundering, and other federal crimes
Odd how cons always bring up a dem. But you missed an important point, me boy. Money changed hands when the Republican national committee first hired Steele. You seem to simply ignore the fact that the dossier was started and initial work on it was done for repubs.

There was more links and proof with Benghazi and Lois Lerner investigations. What was the outcome?

Accusations are not poof, me poor con. Benghazi was investigated over and over and over. So, no crimes were made, and no charges resulted. Same with Lois Lerner. Sorry you missed it. So, you need to find what the difference is between investigations and charges, me poor ignorant con. Both were investigated, And in both cases no charges were brought. Get your facts straight.

As long as Whiterwater investigation took....nothing....Clinton was impeached over lying about sex....the orange one's fate may be for a similar lie.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

 

[JimH52]

Trump campaign DID collude with Russia
They were seeking dirt on Hillary. That IS collusion.
Was there information passed during that meeting?

Have any of you nutjobs established yet that:
A). There is nothing criminal about collusion? Every administration does it.
B). It's not as if Hillary didn't seek dirt on Trump?
C). What makes it a crime is when money changes hands and so far that only occurred AFAIK when the DNC hired Steele.

That is true. But there is Obstruction of Justice, Money laundering, and other federal crimes
Odd how cons always bring up a dem. But you missed an important point, me boy. Money changed hands when the Republican national committee first hired Steele. You seem to simply ignore the fact that the dossier was started and initial work on it was done for repubs.

There was more links and proof with Benghazi and Lois Lerner investigations. What was the outcome?

Accusations are not poof, me poor con. Benghazi was investigated over and over and over. So, no crimes were made, and no charges resulted. Same with Lois Lerner. Sorry you missed it. So, you need to find what the difference is between investigations and charges, me poor ignorant con. Both were investigated, And in both cases no charges were brought. Get your facts straight.

As long as Whiterwater investigation took....nothing....Clinton was impeached over lying about sex....the orange one's fate may be for a similar lie.

Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, Perjury. What has Trump lied under oath about? All politicians lie, its what they do best. Remember "if you like your plan you can keep it" "the average family will save $2500 per year" "I never sent classified data on my personal server" "I did not have sex with that woman".

Two posts in a row with Hillary Hillary Hillary. One more time. She's not the President. She's not even a Senator. Get over her and address the current liar in chief. You can't help yourself can you?

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares!

trump is an illegitimate president.

 

[Staidhup]

Please provide your evidence substantiating collusion. Mueller and his team need your help.

 

[Faun]

I dare you to explain the fact that Trump said in an on-camera interview that he fired Comey because of the Russia probe. How is that not Obstruction? I dare you.

He enjoys making fools of idiots like you and your media masters. Its amazing how stupid you lefties are.

It's gonna be an indescribable pleasure to see what you've got to say when the truth is revealed. It'll be almost as satisfying as getting that lunatic out of our govt. We'll see who the fools are.

Look asshole, if something is uncovered that proves that Trump is personally guilty of a crime, I will be the first to demand that he be removed from office. Now, I challenge you to say that you would support indicting Hillary if she is proven guilty.

Your real problem with Trump is that he won and he is fixing the mess created by generations of libs from both parties, and he tells it like it is, he is not PC, he is a real person not a bullshit politician who can talk all day and say nothing.

Bullshit. Whatever they find, you’ll excuse and defend. Everybody here knows that, so why pretend now to have some integrity?

Mueller's team is staffed exclusively with democrats, Hillary supporters, and DNC contributors, and you have the nerve to claim that its not a partisan witch hunt? WTF, dude. Wake up.

Liar. It is not exclusively Democrats. When you lie like that, you surrender the argument.

Ciao

 

[Wickerthing]

He enjoys making fools of idiots like you and your media masters. Its amazing how stupid you lefties are.

It's gonna be an indescribable pleasure to see what you've got to say when the truth is revealed. It'll be almost as satisfying as getting that lunatic out of our govt. We'll see who the fools are.

Look asshole, if something is uncovered that proves that Trump is personally guilty of a crime, I will be the first to demand that he be removed from office. Now, I challenge you to say that you would support indicting Hillary if she is proven guilty.

Your real problem with Trump is that he won and he is fixing the mess created by generations of libs from both parties, and he tells it like it is, he is not PC, he is a real person not a bullshit politician who can talk all day and say nothing.

Bullshit. Whatever they find, you’ll excuse and defend. Everybody here knows that, so why pretend now to have some integrity?

Mueller's team is staffed exclusively with democrats, Hillary supporters, and DNC contributors, and you have the nerve to claim that its not a partisan witch hunt? WTF, dude. Wake up.

Liar. It is not exclusively Democrats. When you lie like that, you surrender the argument.

Ciao

He's just a parrot for the right. And once again with the "Hillary" "Hillary" Funny stuff.

 

[toobfreak]

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares! trump is an illegitimate president.

Actually Hillary is never "off" the card, is she? Hardly a week goes by she isn't back in the news either deliberately or because she can't stand up, walk and chew gum at the same time. I think it is important to remember that this person might have become president had she not been so corrupt and a louse. Can you imagine the world laughing as this corrupt and corruptible fool stumbled her way around the world selling out to country after country to any bribe they could stuff into her baggy pockets? And that idiots like you who almost two years after the fact still touting that "illegitimate" bull would have blindly put her into office. Hillary is an important reminder of the importance of educating the voters. And fixing our broken justice system.

 

[Wickerthing]

Trump’s Russian Laundromat

Trump’s Russian Laundromat
How to use Trump Tower and other luxury high-rises to clean dirty money, run an international crime syndicate, and propel a failed real estate developer into the White House.
By CRAIG UNGER
July 13, 2017

".....“They saved his bacon,” says Kenneth McCallion, a former assistant U.S. attorney in the Reagan administration who investigated ties between organized crime and Trump’s developments in the 1980s.

It’s entirely possible that Trump was never more than a convenient patsy for Russian oligarchs and mobsters, with his casinos and condos providing easy pass-throughs for their illicit riches.

At the very least, with his constant need for new infusions of cash and his well-documented troubles with creditors, Trump made an easy “mark” for anyone looking to launder money. But whatever his knowledge about the source of his wealth, the public record makes clear that Trump built his business empire in no small part with a lot of dirty money from a lot of dirty Russians—including the dirtiest and most feared of them all."..."​

`

I couldn't have said it any better. And I'll only add to that statement that the Prince son-in-law Kushner is following an identical path. Seeking financing for failing real estate deals from around the globe. Enemies, Sanctioned banks, Oligs, Saudis, Qatar and anywhere else he can find it so that 666 fifth ave doesn't drag him down. He'll be found doing the same stuff as Trump along with tossing poor folks out onto the street to clear the way for profit. I hope Mueller looks into his sale of rent-controlled apartment buildings under false pretenses and lying to cover his tracks. He's learned well from the master of disaster. But the party will soon be over.

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geez dude, do you live under Behar's fat ass? What has filled you with so much hate? Seriously.

Who's Behar? Never heard of him. Trump is turning our country into a cash cow and an autocracy. He's tearing apart all the checks on power that makes us who we are and you can still ask that question? Shame on you. Move to Moscow.

 

[Wickerthing]

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares! trump is an illegitimate president.

Actually Hillary is never "off" the card, is she? Hardly a week goes by she isn't back in the news either deliberately or because she can't stand up, walk and chew gum at the same time. I think it is important to remember that this person might have become president had she not been so corrupt and a louse. Can you imagine the world laughing as this corrupt and corruptible fool stumbled her way around the world selling out to country after country to any bribe they could stuff into her baggy pockets? And that idiots like you who almost two years after the fact still touting that "illegitimate" bull would have blindly put her into office. Hillary is an important reminder of the importance of educating the voters. And fixing our broken justice system.

So glad you can take such pleasure in her failing health. Very Trumplike. Did you learn that from your master?

 

[JimH52]

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares! trump is an illegitimate president.

Actually Hillary is never "off" the card, is she? Hardly a week goes by she isn't back in the news either deliberately or because she can't stand up, walk and chew gum at the same time. I think it is important to remember that this person might have become president had she not been so corrupt and a louse. Can you imagine the world laughing as this corrupt and corruptible fool stumbled her way around the world selling out to country after country to any bribe they could stuff into her baggy pockets? And that idiots like you who almost two years after the fact still touting that "illegitimate" bull would have blindly put her into office. Hillary is an important reminder of the importance of educating the voters. And fixing our broken justice system.

Paragraphs....Google it

 

[toobfreak]

So glad you can take such pleasure in her failing health. Very Trumplike. Did you learn that from your master?

Spoken well by the person who obsesses over Trump's "orange" hair, complexion, weight, activity, and diet while calling for him to hopefully have a massive coronary claiming he is too unfit to even hold office!

 

[JimH52]

When the heat gets too much on trump....They pull the Hillary card. It is old and no one cares! trump is an illegitimate president.

Actually Hillary is never "off" the card, is she? Hardly a week goes by she isn't back in the news either deliberately or because she can't stand up, walk and chew gum at the same time. I think it is important to remember that this person might have become president had she not been so corrupt and a louse. Can you imagine the world laughing as this corrupt and corruptible fool stumbled her way around the world selling out to country after country to any bribe they could stuff into her baggy pockets? And that idiots like you who almost two years after the fact still touting that "illegitimate" bull would have blindly put her into office. Hillary is an important reminder of the importance of educating the voters. And fixing our broken justice system.

So glad you can take such pleasure in her failing health. Very Trumplike. Did you learn that from your master?

trump is an expert at degrading statements about the disabled and the sick. He really gets off on it....while Melanie is in the background telling everyone how evil Bullying is.

Then she slips back under the sheets with a man that sleeps with any women who looks his way.

Money makes strange "bed partners" doesn't it.

 

[Wickerthing]

So glad you can take such pleasure in her failing health. Very Trumplike. Did you learn that from your master?

Spoken well by the person who obsesses over Trump's "orange" hair, complexion, weight, activity, and diet while calling for him to hopefully have a massive coronary claiming he is too unfit to even hold office!

Other than his being orange with yellow hair and having lips like a carp, I've never commented on his physical appearance. I've never wished a coronary on him and he is obviously not fit for office. But that has nothing to do with his body but it has everything to do with his character.
It's just like when you accused me of insulting everyone and I challenged you to show me any instance where I insulted anyone who didn't insult me first. You couldn't and neither can you show where I wished a coronary on anyone. You just make shit up as you go.

 

[JimH52]

So glad you can take such pleasure in her failing health. Very Trumplike. Did you learn that from your master?

Spoken well by the person who obsesses over Trump's "orange" hair, complexion, weight, activity, and diet while calling for him to hopefully have a massive coronary claiming he is too unfit to even hold office!

Other than his being orange with yellow hair and having lips like a carp, I've never commented on his physical appearance. I've never wished a coronary on him and he is obviously not fit for office. But that has nothing to do with his body but it has everything to do with his character.

....or lack thereof....