Trump calls the Portland riots an insurrection

[Mac1958]

You hit the nail on the head, but let me add Trump could not have done it without the backing of this crooked to the hilt ...Republican lead Congress, who is back stabbing those, who under the Constitution, they represent... by their relinquishing of their Congressional power and constitutional duties, and given them all to ONE man in the Executive branch....a supposedly separate branch! Boy this is depressing to see... what is unfolding.

And it could not have been done, without the abuse of the shadow docket in the supreme court.

Yep. I've always blamed congressional Republicans for this. They've been the biggest enabler of all, because they're so worried about keeping their cushy gubmit jobs. Keeping the credulous rube base happy and getting re-elected has always been their #1 priority, not the Constitution or what's best for the country. THEY KNOW BETTER.

There has never been a better argument for term limits than this.

 

[Rawley]

Oh, they cover ice and their abusive treatment of human beings, some even citizens, some abused who live here legally sent off to detention centers and other or home countries illegally....

I guess your media does not cover that thuggery and mistakes part,

as mine doesn't cover what Ice is afraid of...Or the violence other than a main attack here or there.

Oh boy, is this country in trouble...

Ice didn't begin with masks off and then start wearing them after they began their snatch and grabs at courthouses, schools, churches, basketball games, home depots, farms....etc....they wore them and used unmarked vans from the get go....

The joy your side gets from the cruelty ICE exerts so publicly is kinda disheartening to see for me.

Why could Obama, without all the ICE reality tv showmanship (with Fox only allowed by Ice side filming them and their visible to anyone's eye, thuggery) be able to deport millions of illegal aliens, without anyone knowing, without all the drama, and without all the damn money.

Every illegal deported by Obama on average costed us tax payers via ICE, $14,000 for each one...and I admit when it came to light that it cost us $14,000 to do so...I thought it was an outrageous amount, I thought the deportation should have been able to cost less.

Under the Trump admin, it is costing us tax payers on average by ICE $70,000 for each one deported. All this showmanship grab off the streets or farms etc. thuggery on display, is costing us an awful lot to do this way, not only in the money to deport, but in a respect we once had on the world stage for our constitution and protections for all on our soil, including due process....who the heck from a foreign country ever want to vacation here again? A whole tourist industry is in the toilet, from this and Trump's illegal tariff games.

It's done in such a cruel, Gestapo type, papers please, visibly whisked off the streets type of way...and then sent to detainment camps, NOT concentration camps, but it has the same playbook... Of making it okay to just sweep people off the streets, as publicly as possible, with even cameras rolling for later propaganda on the news, because they are people you hate, you treat as not human, you think don't belong among you, you think are getting help that you don't get etc etc etc...much like Germans were trained to think about the Jews.

My concern and fear is if we let this become just a normal every day thing and not be disgusted by this happening this way...then the next group grabbed and detained without due process could be citizens that you are taught and trained to hate.

Why all this Pomp and Circumstance, on display...it's awful!!! Awful Awful Awful!

Wow. ICE officers are Nazis, so it's OK to shoot at them. God help you Care, God help you.

 

[Rawley]

There is big difference in throwing rocks at ICE agents and attempting the overthrow the government. The DOJ, tried to prosecute Jan 4th rioters with insurrection but that failed as will insurrection prosecutions of protestors who attacked ICE agent.

No, Not a single person was ever charged with insurrection.

Portland is referred to as a city where free speech is protected, largely due to its identity as a sanctuary city and a history of supporting peaceful protests. When protests become violent, the police focus on arresting the perpetrators rather than shutting down the protest.

Portland ranks 74th in violent crime in our 100 largest cities. It's homicide rate is down 50% this year. Portland is not just a safe city but beautiful place to live.

As usually, Trump verbal attacks on the city are lies and self serving

Uh, they are not there to back up local law enforcement. They are there to protect Homeland Security facilities and ICE officers from this in Portland:

 

[Kyrion]

Yep. I've always blamed congressional Republicans for this. They've been the biggest enabler of all, because they're so worried about keeping their cushy gubmit jobs. Keeping the credulous rube base happy and getting re-elected has always been their #1 priority, not the Constitution or what's best for the country. THEY KNOW BETTER.

There has never been a better argument for term limits than this.

That and republican elected officials are terrified that their voter base will murder them. Everyone here knows that the insurrectionists that attacked the Capitol on J6 would not have had bothered to sort out the Republicans and would've just indiscriminately killed.

Luckily, conservatives are terrible at everything and thus never got close to any elected official.

 

[Care4all]

Wow. ICE officers are Nazis, so it's OK to shoot at them. God help you Care, God help you.

You jumped, without reading what I actually said?

 

[Rawley]

You jumped, without reading what I actually said?

I read every word. And was rather disappointed and frankly disgusted

"It's done in such a cruel, Gestapo type, papers please, visibly whisked off the streets type of way...and then sent to detainment camps ... much like Germans were trained to think about the Jews."

It's words like yours, mirroring the words of your party's leaders, that incite the less stable members of your cult, like Tyler Robinson and Joshua Jan, to believe that it's their duty to kill these Nazis, these fascists.

It's reckless and irresponsible. You want to ***** at someone, ***** at your dem mayor and dem governors and their sanctuary policies. Rather than cooperate with the Federal gvt and allow two officers to detain the criminal illegal at the jail, their policies force ICE to send half a dozen officers to hunt down and detain the criminal in the community. And they need another half a dozen officers to protect the arresting officers against your crowds of "peaceful protestors."

 

[Flopper]

Actually the violent left wing crackpot fanatics are attacking the ICE officials.
Trump has a duty to protect the ICE officials.
Attacking ICE is an insurrection.

Trump does have the duty to protect ICE officials.
Attacking an ICE agent is not insurrection. In U.S. federal law, an insurrection is an organized and often violent revolt or rebellion against the established government. A protest that turns violent is not an insurrection. Even Jan 6th attack on US Capital was not considered insurrection.

 

[toobfreak]

Once again President Trump is correct.
The assaults on the ICE agents in Portland OR constitute an insurrection.

These attacks are foreign-funded challenges to the autonomy of the federal government to enforce US law within US territory. When A group invades the body with the intention of usurping power and authority for itself over the established government, I can't think of any better word than insurrection.

Why else would anyone attack their own government for doing the thankless task of enforcing our laws and keeping invaders out of the country, unless their interests were that of the invaders!

 

[Utilitarian]

Yep. I've always blamed congressional Republicans for this. They've been the biggest enabler of all, because they're so worried about keeping their cushy gubmit jobs. Keeping the credulous rube base happy and getting re-elected has always been their #1 priority, not the Constitution or what's best for the country. THEY KNOW BETTER.

There has never been a better argument for term limits than this.

Term limits are a fantasy as long as committee positions are based on seniority. I'm not opposed to the idea overall, but having a federal referendum on the policy is about the only way you'll ever see this happen.

As far as the Constitution goes, I like its ideals, but how relevant is it when a large portion of the population doesn't believe in said ideals? The most generous assessment would suggest that at least a third of the country isn't composed of "moral and righteous" people.

 

[Mac1958]

Term limits are a fantasy as long as committee positions are based on seniority. I'm not opposed to the idea overall, but having a federal referendum on the policy is about the only way you'll ever see this happen.

As far as the Constitution goes, I like its ideals, but how relevant is it when a large portion of the population doesn't believe in said ideals? The most generous assessment would suggest that at least a third of the country isn't composed of "moral and righteous" people.

I find that many who claim to be "moral and righteous" are anything but. They often are nothing more than hypocritical zealots.

 

[Utilitarian]

I find that many who claim to be "moral and righteous" are anything but. They often are nothing more than hypocritical zealots.

I can agree with that. The left equivalent is typically something along the lines of "compassionate" or being an "ally."

There is a lot of virtue signaling that goes on in politics. I prefer a much blunter and ruthlessly pragmatic approach. A lot of the non-West does not provide sanctuary for illegals, fund layabouts, or let Marxists infiltrate their institutions. We could learn a lot from those cultures.

 

[Flopper]

I read every word. And was rather disappointed and frankly disgusted

"It's done in such a cruel, Gestapo type, papers please, visibly whisked off the streets type of way...and then sent to detainment camps ... much like Germans were trained to think about the Jews."

It's words like yours, mirroring the words of your party's leaders, that incite the less stable members of your cult, like Tyler Robinson and Joshua Jan, to believe that it's their duty to kill these Nazis, these fascists.

It's reckless and irresponsible. You want to ***** at someone, ***** at your dem mayor and dem governors and their sanctuary policies. Rather than cooperate with the Federal gvt and allow two officers to detain the criminal illegal at the jail, their policies force ICE to send half a dozen officers to hunt down and detain the criminal in the community. And they need another half a dozen officers to protect the arresting officers against your crowds of "peaceful protestors."

Local and state officials are not required by law to assist the federal government in enforcing federal law. State and local government can pass legislation forbidding employees from assisting federal agents.

State Rights is two edge sword. About 60 years ago, republicans were supporting state and local officials who were standing up against the federal goverment. Now republican are attacking state offical for exercising their right to hold back assistance to federal agents.

 

[Flopper]

Nothing that cant be undone in 3 years. Literally there was nothing of Trump's first term left in place 30 days after he left other than Tax cuts - the only legislation passed and supported by rich Liberals as much as rich Conservatives.

I'll grant you the interim damage cant be undone but future damage can be righted. Its up to America to decide what type of future it wants.

Trump was never been interested in getting landmark legislation pasted that would change America and give him a place in history. He doesn't care about that. His only interested is using the power of his office to attack his enemies and to glorify himself. He bypassed congress in establishing tariffs which is the constitutional job of congress. His rigid enforcement of immigration, is nothing but presidential orders.

Any future president can nullify his tariffs and revise his immigration policy with the stroke of a pen. And I doubt he would care because he lives to satisfy his ego, to do as he pleases, to destroy his enemy's, and to see those in power cower down before him.

30 days after he leaves office in his 2nd term, it will likely be the same as first term.

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[DonGlock26]

 

[DonGlock26]

Portland?

 

[Mac-7]

Trump does have the duty to protect ICE officials.
Attacking an ICE agent is not insurrection. In U.S. federal law, an insurrection is an organized and often violent revolt or rebellion against the established government. A protest that turns violent is not an insurrection. Even Jan 6th attack on US Capital was not considered insurrection.

Whats taking place in Portland qualifies as insurrection

The ICE facility there is under attack and has been for over 100 days and nights

And the local police are doing nothing

Trump is within his authority to call out the NG

 

[Mac1958]

So I just saw an interview with Stephen Miller where called something else an insurrection, and clip of the orange buffoon doing the same thing.



They're desperate to dilute the REAL Insurrection, and they're not doing a good job of hiding it.

Cowards.

 

[Delldude]

Nothing was prevented from happening. Biden took office when he was supposed to.

A real insurrection was CHAZ/CHOP, where local authority was taken over by the mob for over a month.

It was cool until someone was murdered.